757hoyafan
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Post by 757hoyafan on Feb 8, 2009 0:07:37 GMT -5
If you recall @ the beginning of the year, the rumor was last year's team did not get along & how this team was so tight. Now they do not like each other. seems like bs to me quote author=strummer85 board=general thread=18672 post=292885 time=1234061608] they do not even seem to like each other when on the court. So when they're giving dap to each other, this is just for the camera? I remember during a timeout, Omar actually smacked D instead of a hug. Why do folks continue to pull Edited out of their ass because we are losing? Let's cut the dap and win a Editeding basketball game. This isn't eharmony. I don't care who likes who. Make your shots or learn to run the damn offense that allows us to find a man who can hit a shot.[/quote]
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hoyaalf
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Post by hoyaalf on Feb 8, 2009 1:27:09 GMT -5
How good is their personal chemisty?
Do they really believe in high-percentage looks?
Are they willing to mature together?
I wonder. You wonder. JTIII wonders.
In the meantime we soldier on.
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 8, 2009 11:45:47 GMT -5
re: chemistry, from Barker Davis' game article this morning:
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bmartin
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Post by bmartin on Feb 8, 2009 12:04:52 GMT -5
Thompson is searching for the right combination game to game. This is not like last year when there was an obvious shut-down defensive lineup and an obvious multiple threat offensive lineup. In the past he could call a play for Jon, Jeff, and Roy to play a three-man game as at Nova or call the center-forward play that gave Jeff the ball at the elbow with options against Vanderbilt. That may have been what was intended yesterday, but Monroe never got the ball. Nikita is a good complementary player who passes the ball and runs the offense, but if he is on the court with Summers and Freeman at least one of those guys has to make the shots that are created. Summers never has really run the offense. He has benefited from open shots and mismatches created by other guys running the offense. Freeman had a good two-man game with Roy last year where he would feed the post from the baseline and then cut for a bounce pass if they doubled down. Haven't seen that this year.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 8, 2009 12:16:28 GMT -5
I think it is fair to say that every person involved with the team - including players AND staff - knows that they have to work harder to come out of this. As maddening as it is for us to see the losses, Coach recruits men of character and intelligence, they will do everything they can to turn it around. Hopefully it will be enough.
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kchoya
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Post by kchoya on Feb 10, 2009 19:18:54 GMT -5
JTIII does not have some issues with his in game management, he has every problem possible. We have plenty of good talent, but when you miss the two timeout opportunities, one at the end of regulation, and the other and the end of OT, something has to be done. He cannot allow such crucial victories escape us, especially in February. What are you talking about? At the end of regulation, the defense was in transition and we got a great look for Summers from downtown. And at the end of OT he did call a TO with 14 seconds to set up the play. If you're going to jump all over JT3, at least be accurate.
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lurkerhoya
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Post by lurkerhoya on Feb 10, 2009 19:28:40 GMT -5
A play that, by any sensible account from people who watched the game, was executed nowhere close to what was actually called...
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Post by stonehandssam on Feb 10, 2009 20:24:38 GMT -5
Most knowledgeable basketball people around the country would consider this post absurd. But even a novice, once made aware of the six year Esherick purgatory, two subsequent Big East titles, a Big East Championship, a visit to the Final Four, and the recent departures of Jeff Green, JWall & Roy Hibbert, would, with limited knowledge, be able to recognize that this is nonsense. And for the deaf man unable to hear these things, he need but watch JTIII's zen-like, cerebral approach to the game, and he too would realize that we have a special coach.
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Post by berrypatch26 on Feb 10, 2009 21:12:54 GMT -5
The losses so far have been disappointing for the fans and even more so for the team. But the wins weren't lucky. They were nailed down by a good group of talented, young ballplayers - our team, our Hoyas.
If they think, if they believe, they still belong in the Top 10, then they actually have a decent shot at getting there.
Let's hang in there with them.
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Post by formerbearcat on Feb 10, 2009 22:42:36 GMT -5
It's all about coaching. Young teams should get better as the season progresses, we are going in reverse.
On the college level, great coaching wins games. On the NBA level, great players win games.
We are getting out coached. That doesn't make JTIII a bad coach, he's a good coach making some bad decisions.
Some of you have said the players are not getting along, it's the coach's responsibility to create team chemistry and develop leaders.
You build your system and playing style based upon your talent. You ask why so many transfers, maybe its the system. Most of these young men never played in a system that requires patience and discipline, they made their mark in high school running the court and putting up big numbers. It's not easy to make the change, that's why, as beautiful as the Princeton O can be to watch, so few teams run it.
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vcjack
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Post by vcjack on Feb 10, 2009 23:31:29 GMT -5
I know you probably don't want to hear it but to my amerature eye sans Monroe getting beat on a couple pick and roll and one Nikita late rotation Saturday was the best defensive effort we had all year. It may be a little too late but if there is a late season miracle, I'd imagine it comes from a renewed defense that seems to show some life.
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