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Post by hoyalawyer on Jan 5, 2009 2:01:53 GMT -5
if I were to wager I would guess the Hoyas will be around 9th
1. Pitt 2. Duke (vommit) 3. Wake 4. UNC 5. UCONN 6. OKLAHOMA 7. TEXAS 8. PURDUE 9. GEORGETOWN 10. MICHIGAN STATE
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Post by royski on Jan 5, 2009 3:39:27 GMT -5
1) Pitt 2) UNC 3) Duke 4) UConn 5) Wake 6) Oklahoma 7) Georgetown 8) Texas 9) Clemson 10) Michigan State 11) Syracuse 12) Arizona State 13) UCLA 14) Villanova 15) Purdue
IMO
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Post by joey0403p on Jan 5, 2009 9:56:26 GMT -5
I hope Duke moves up to number 1 by the time we play them...all the better when we beat them.
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Post by guru on Jan 5, 2009 10:32:11 GMT -5
Yes, BEING ranked in the voter polls matters, as it gets your highlights on SportsCenter, scores in papers across the country, etc. My point is that WHERE you are ranked in these voter polls doesn't matter at all. You think where we are in the polls doesn't matter at all? Tell you what, go to any online media source right this moment - CNN, MSNBC, Foxnews, NYTimes.com, etc. and you'll see that it's a national headline that UNC lost today. It was a sports front-page headline nationally when we beat UConn, and the G'town-Pitt game was the lead story on Sportscenter. Contrast that with the fact that I'm pretty sure most people don't know that both Ohio State and Baylor are ranked, let alone that they've both lost games in the last couple of days. Being ranked matters, being highly ranked matters. So in your scenario, you want to be ranked highly so that when you lose, it's bigger news? Um, ok. Bottom line is, who cares about these rankings? It's nice to be ranked and be noticed, but it doesn't matter one bit. What matters is that you play well enough throughout the year to be well-positioned for the tournament in March. And if you do that, you're likely to earn a ranking in these polls that - along with a quarter - will get you 15 minutes of parking on M Street.
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Post by GUJook97 on Jan 5, 2009 11:04:25 GMT -5
No offense to anyone, but can we have a moratorium on people posting about how we shouldnt care about the rankings? If you dont care, dont post in this thread. The reason most people post about the rankings is because it is something to talk about when there arent games to talk about. I think that is pretty clear, no? So why be offended?
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Post by Boz on Jan 5, 2009 11:08:14 GMT -5
I am very concerned about our Bracketology placement this week. Do we get a red "Up" arrow? A blue "Down" arrow? A grey sideways arrow? Who are we playing in the first round? WHO, DAMMIT? ? (sorry, I'm bitter about the rebounding statistics and decided to take it out on Joe Lunardi today).
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Post by 98hoya on Jan 5, 2009 11:39:17 GMT -5
You think where we are in the polls doesn't matter at all? Tell you what, go to any online media source right this moment - CNN, MSNBC, Foxnews, NYTimes.com, etc. and you'll see that it's a national headline that UNC lost today. It was a sports front-page headline nationally when we beat UConn, and the G'town-Pitt game was the lead story on Sportscenter. Contrast that with the fact that I'm pretty sure most people don't know that both Ohio State and Baylor are ranked, let alone that they've both lost games in the last couple of days. Being ranked matters, being highly ranked matters. So in your scenario, you want to be ranked highly so that when you lose, it's bigger news? Um, ok. Not only did I never say that, I never even said anything from which that could be inferred. In other words, don't be a jerk.
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Post by tashoya on Jan 5, 2009 12:59:29 GMT -5
#10 in US Today/ESPN.
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Post by ceb8 on Jan 5, 2009 13:03:12 GMT -5
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Post by royski on Jan 5, 2009 13:06:14 GMT -5
UCLA over us is a joke. We've lost to Tennessee on a neutral court and Pitt at home. They lost at Texas and at home to Michigan. Our best three wins are a blowout of Maryland on a neutral floor, a win over Memphis at home, and a domination of UConn on the road. Their best wins are over Southern Illinois, DePaul and Oregon.
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Post by hoyasaxa98 on Jan 5, 2009 13:07:01 GMT -5
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Post by hoyasaxa98 on Jan 5, 2009 13:07:33 GMT -5
ESPN/USA Today Poll 1. Pittsburgh (30) 14-0 774 2. Duke 12-1 714 3. North Carolina (1) 13-1 707 4. Wake Forest 13-0 687 5. Connecticut 12-1 630 6. Oklahoma 13-1 593 7. Texas 11-2 546 7. UCLA 12-2 546 9. Syracuse 14-1 526 10. Georgetown 10-2 506 11. Clemson 14-0 480 12. Michigan State 11-2 452 13. Notre Dame 10-3 277 14. Purdue 11-3 261 15. Marquette 13-2 251 16. Arizona State 12-2 238 17. Villanova 12-2 225 18. Xavier 11-2 217 19. Minnesota 13-1 183 20. Butler 12-1 147 21. Louisville 9-3 136 22. West Virginia 11-2 132 23. Baylor 12-2 98 24. Boston College 13-2 90 25. Tennessee 9-3 85
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Post by lancasterhoyafan on Jan 5, 2009 13:17:06 GMT -5
9 Big East Teams...Nice!! Syracuse ahead of us??? Booooooo!!!
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Post by 02hoya on Jan 5, 2009 13:40:51 GMT -5
9 Big East Teams...Nice!! Syracuse ahead of us??? Booooooo!!! I can't wait for January 14th. They'll get what they deserve.
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Post by idhoya on Jan 5, 2009 14:11:55 GMT -5
I see Clemson is in their customary early season high ranking. They'll be out by March.
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Post by thebin on Jan 5, 2009 14:33:47 GMT -5
No offense to anyone, but can we have a moratorium on people posting about how we shouldnt care about the rankings? If you dont care, dont post in this thread. The reason most people post about the rankings is because it is something to talk about when there arent games to talk about. I think that is pretty clear, no? So why be offended? A-FRIGGEN-MEN. In general if you don't really care about ANY thread, just move on. Resist the urge to tell other people what they should and should not care about on a message board where we are all a bit wacky to begin with. But the "who cares about the rankings" posts, we must be in the thousands of them by now, are both obnoxious and repetitive.
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Post by thebin on Jan 5, 2009 14:42:24 GMT -5
Just came out, we are #9 in the AP. And two slots ahead of Cuse.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Jan 5, 2009 15:23:50 GMT -5
Hard to say if we'll ascend or descend from our current 8/11 slots. I'd say we drop to 10 in the Coaches and move up to 8 in the AP because that's the kind of arbitrary movements one might expect from the polls. Interesting that we're still #1 on kenpom. Down to #11 on realtimeRPI, #6 on Sagarin (which has not been updated for today's games). 2-1 in the Big East is what I'm really hoping to see by this time tomorrow night. Why shouldn't we move up? We lost to the #1 team in the country, and beat the previous #2 team in the country. Who said anything about what should happen? My point was a tongue-in-cheek way of pointing out that what should happen and what does happen are often different when it comes to the human polls. And look out, apparently I was right: we moved down from 8 to 10 in the Coaches poll, as predicted, and up from 11 to 9 in the AP poll, which was one off prediction.
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Post by nathanhm on Jan 5, 2009 15:30:52 GMT -5
No offense to anyone, but can we have a moratorium on people posting about how we shouldnt care about the rankings? If you dont care, dont post in this thread. The reason most people post about the rankings is because it is something to talk about when there arent games to talk about. I think that is pretty clear, no? So why be offended? A-FRIGGEN-MEN. In general if you don't really care about ANY thread, just move on. Resist the urge to tell other people what they should and should not care about on a message board where we are all a bit wacky to begin with. But the "who cares about the rankings" posts, we must be in the thousands of them by now, are both obnoxious and repetitive. Aren't you doing the same thing? Telling people not to post about not caring about rankings? lol only kidding, i find it highly annoying as well. To Answer the Question for Everyone: I NATHANHM CARE ABOUT RANKINGS AND THUS HAVE DEMANDED ALL SPORTS SITES CARRY THEM, SPORTSCENTER RUN THEM ON THE THE TICKER, AND OTHER FANS DISCUSS THEM, IF YOU DON"T LIKE IT TOUGH. THEY ARE ALL DOING IT FOR MY BENEFIT. </end rant>
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Jan 5, 2009 15:37:19 GMT -5
I think rankings are "meaningful" insofaras people like to ascribe meaning to them and discuss how teams are relative to each other---just as with the plethora of statistics kept about everything in sports, espn, sportstalk radio, this site, etc. They serve as a snapshot, something to chew on, and not a predictor of future events. They give us a metric to measure past, present, and future performance: witness all the posts discussing whether the Hoyas are "really" a top 10 or top 5 team.
If people care about them, fine. If they don't, fine. I don't understand telling people not to post about them.
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