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Post by 98hoya on Jan 3, 2009 21:11:03 GMT -5
We smoke #2, get smoked by #3. Does that move us up, down or keep us where we are in the polls?
7 hrs later, I'm over it. Hey, if you'd asked me a week ago if I'd take a split vs. UConn and Pitt, I would've said yes so fast it'd make heads spin.
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Post by sleepy on Jan 3, 2009 21:14:13 GMT -5
Rankings don't matter, blah blah blah... but I think we will probably be down to 12-13. A loss like that will have the stronger impression because it just happened whereas the Uconn win feels like a month ago.
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Post by GUJook97 on Jan 3, 2009 21:29:55 GMT -5
We'll be in the 5-7 range, I think. Wake is probably going to lose to BYU. I think we could even be higher, but with 2 losses, it's a tough sell. It means little, tho, because we'll be playing a tough game on Monday with the rankings barely out...
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Post by FLHoya on Jan 3, 2009 21:37:11 GMT -5
In the ranking that DOES matter, the answer will be: somewhere in the middle of the BE standings with a long way to go.
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Post by GUJook97 on Jan 3, 2009 22:15:15 GMT -5
yeah, i expect this year to be a lot of what we saw this week. Think we'll have some surprising wins and some tough, ugly losses.
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Post by 98hoya on Jan 3, 2009 22:47:26 GMT -5
Funny, I didn't expect this much negativity about a rankings question. To me, rankings are a source of pride during the season and I like to see the team ranked as highly as possible. As much as anything, I think high rankings, even mid-season are good for the program (show recruits the rankings, highly ranked teams get more press, etc.), as well as the school (you get in the top 10, you're more visible on a national level, which has value extending beyond basketball).
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Jan 3, 2009 23:00:44 GMT -5
I say we move up 3-6 spots depending on how bad different analysts view our loss. i mean come on we did go into the 2nd ranked team's house and steadily controled the game for about 39 minutes.. and then we get out ass handed to us at home in the last 14 minutes of the game by the #3 team in the nation. even in all that about 4 teams in front of us lost. so we should get at least a tiny bit of love
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Post by lichoya68 on Jan 4, 2009 9:03:44 GMT -5
I think we will stay about where we are. THE only poll tho is the one after the final four and national championship. BEAT ND!
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Post by MassHoya on Jan 4, 2009 9:37:08 GMT -5
A small drop, 9 or 10. People's memories are very short. Last impressions matter the most and our last was not too good.
Having said that, I, too would have thought a split with UCONN and PITT was about where we should be. Let's not throw ourselves under the bus yet. There's a lot of hoops yet to play, and the team needs a chance to become whatever it is they will be (hopefully better rebounders).
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Post by blueandgray on Jan 4, 2009 10:18:19 GMT -5
Maybe rankings at this time of the year aren't very important...but everyone looks at them including everyone on this board. I'm with Lic... I think we stay the same....maybe move up one spot.
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Post by guru on Jan 4, 2009 13:06:26 GMT -5
The only ranking I pay attention to is kenpom.com. As for the voted rankings, they mean absolutely nothing - as will be proven tomorrow when UConn is ranked ahead of the Hoyas despite the drubbing inflicted in Hartford last Monday.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jan 4, 2009 13:09:14 GMT -5
We'll move up just not that much after the loss. We were #8 in ESPN and #11 in the AP. There are still games to be layed, but assuming no other teams ahead of us lost today. I think we're at least 8 in the AP remember #4 OU, #7 ND, and #9 Purdue all lost to unranked teams this week. In the ESPN i'd move us up to at least 7 with at best moving to 5 behind, UNC, Pitt, Duke, and WF.
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Post by 98hoya on Jan 4, 2009 13:20:51 GMT -5
The only ranking I pay attention to is kenpom.com. As for the voted rankings, they mean absolutely nothing - as will be proven tomorrow when UConn is ranked ahead of the Hoyas despite the drubbing inflicted in Hartford last Monday. Guru, for the reasons I stated above, I think they mean more than "absolutely nothing." You'd have to agree that a highly ranked team gets more press and more attention from the public. That doesn't win games, but it does help build a program.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Jan 4, 2009 13:36:51 GMT -5
We stay the same. Win at former #2, loss to new #2 - that evens out in a voter's mind.
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Post by richfame on Jan 4, 2009 14:42:22 GMT -5
#6 or #7
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Post by bmartin on Jan 4, 2009 15:58:22 GMT -5
Georgetown is still #1 in Pomeroy, barely ahead of Duke. WVU, UNC, Pitt, and UConn are 3-6. Hoya's projection is now 23-5, 15-3. Pitt and WVU also projected to finish 15-3 in Big East. UConn 13-5. Georgetown ranks 338th in consistency, and is by far the least consistent of the top teams.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jan 4, 2009 17:25:02 GMT -5
We stay the same. Win at former #2, loss to new #2 - that evens out in a voter's mind. how do you figure? A win against the #2 team would be balanced out by a lower ranked team but your logic makes no sense how does a good win get balanced out by a good loss( good-to a good team). A good win get's balanced out by a bad loss. We will move up.
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Post by Locker on Jan 4, 2009 19:53:12 GMT -5
In light of Carolina's loss, we would have been # 1 with a victory yesterday.
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Post by GUJook97 on Jan 4, 2009 19:57:15 GMT -5
People keep saying that but i dont think that would have even been the case. We are 11 in the Ap and 8 in ESPN. Duke would have been #1, I bet. It doesnt matter.
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Post by jkhoya12 on Jan 4, 2009 19:57:44 GMT -5
no time to dwell on that.....move on. ignore the rankings, i care about W's.
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