jgalt
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Post by jgalt on Dec 10, 2008 20:13:25 GMT -5
As a rule, is it even possible for Boeheim to disallow this scumbag from playing? Doesn't that open the "school" up to liability if the decision is overturned? Or, since he's already been deemed guilty and it is a private school, is Magoo allowed to sit him? I think a coach of any sports team has the right to not play a player for just about any reason, but ill probably be proved wrong on that tas, youre totally right about why they are Editeded ;D
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Dec 10, 2008 20:13:38 GMT -5
A quote from an SU "student" from the above article link:
...and I believe that the academic year goes until graduation, but i could be wrong.
Um... what? They don't know what an "academic year" is? Why am I surprised by this?
And another gem....
I want the old days back. Derrick Coleman would get in a brawl ever time he was on Marshall St and he never got in trouble. He even got in a fight during a Cornell game- nothing happened
Clearly it's not just an isolated incident. Apparently his mentality is not uncommon among the Orange.
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The Stig
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Post by The Stig on Dec 10, 2008 20:24:48 GMT -5
At least the judicial board has balls. I was expecting them to just let him walk because he's a basketball player.
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Post by hoyachick on Dec 10, 2008 20:31:06 GMT -5
Clearly it's not just an isolated incident. Apparently his mentality is not uncommon among the Orange. Sadly it's not. I brought the Devo topic up with a guy I know that went to Cuse and he said, "He'll be fine. edited" I'd dismiss it as gossip, but this guy used to deal to the bball and fball teams in college. Yeah, I know some quality people. MOD NOTE: true story or not, it's hearsay and not appropriate for this board.
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CTHoya08
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Post by CTHoya08 on Dec 10, 2008 20:39:09 GMT -5
It's ridiculous how many of the commenters on the article are saying things along the lines of "it's just a bunch of nerds getting back at a jock" and "he wasn't charged with a crime, how can the university find him guilty?"
He wasn't charged because the authorities chose to defer to the university. Idiots.
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alexd
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Post by alexd on Dec 10, 2008 21:09:04 GMT -5
It's a private university inforcing it's own student code of conduct.
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Dec 10, 2008 21:18:05 GMT -5
this is sad and sad if jimmy b. lets him play till totally resolved interesting comment on john thompson jr. and ms. fenlon go hoyas sad day for college bball yup too bad
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The Stig
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Post by The Stig on Dec 10, 2008 21:38:07 GMT -5
Haha, we have a grammar stickler post... followed by a lic post!
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mapei
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Post by mapei on Dec 10, 2008 21:43:56 GMT -5
He is my least favorite player in the Big East. He is a jerk and I wish the worst for him.
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Post by LizziebethHoya on Dec 10, 2008 22:28:53 GMT -5
Also, I THINK he was on probation before this, so this is not a one-time thing, not to mention the case against a few of the players last year (I think Devo was involved) that got dismissed. The bottom line is no matter if he did this or not, the players have repeatedly put themselves in positions to get in trouble and that reflects poorly on the program.
It's one thing if a student steals something or smokes/drinks up and gets caught (UConn comes to mind here), but physical violence is a totally different level. ESPECIALLY involving a fellow student. It should not be tolerated whatsoever and I hope SU sticks by its decision in this case.
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vcjack
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Post by vcjack on Dec 10, 2008 22:35:41 GMT -5
Devo is trash and trash belongs in the garbage
Therefore <----------- belongs in the garbage.
Got to find me a new pic
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 10, 2008 22:41:52 GMT -5
The Onondaga County District Attorney's Office has interviewed Smith, Devendorf and witnesses about the allegation. Any further action will be deferred, pending the outcome of the university hearing, according to District Attorney William Fitzpatrick.www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/bigeast/2008-12-10-syracuse-devendorf_N.htmSyracuse University has now taken action. Assuming Devendorf's appeal does not result in a change to his punishment, what happens to any potential criminal charges? Unless exculpatory facts we are unaware of exist, it's my opinion Devendorf should be charged. Nobody should get a free pass from the NY criminal justice system simply because Mommy and/or Daddy pays tuition at Syracuse. (By the way, who hears Devendorf's appeal? An administrator? The same student conduct board that doled out his punishment?)
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Post by stafford72 on Dec 10, 2008 22:42:09 GMT -5
Gtown is indeed fortunate to have had coaches with principles and athletes who have been a credit to the University and have not become involved in sordid situations, at least not that have been made public. We have had our share of thugs in the past, most of whom left before graduating. As much as some may dislike Boeheim, accusing him of cheating in recruiting smacks of sour grapes. He is fairly well respected among his peers, including JTII. You might question some of his decisions in accepting certain players, but hindsight is always 20-20. I am surprised that a third person heresay accusation of rape against a former Syracuse player has not been purged from the postings. For the most part, this board should concentrate on what happens on the court, not in the courts.
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vcjack
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Post by vcjack on Dec 10, 2008 22:46:41 GMT -5
"As much as some may dislike Boeheim, accusing him of cheating in recruiting smacks of sour grapes. "
You do realize he's been punished by the NCAA before for recruiting violations. And pick up Zo's biography and turn to the section of his recruiting where he says "it was well understood that if I went to a Maryland or Syracuse or Georgia Tech I would get paid"
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Post by HoyaLingus on Dec 10, 2008 22:50:32 GMT -5
It's a private university inforcing it's own student code of conduct. the irony of your grammar post containing a moronic spelling mistake is not lost on the Lingus.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Dec 10, 2008 23:11:24 GMT -5
I hope the suspension sticks. He's an embarrassment to his school (regardless of how much I can't stand his school) and to the league in general. Plus, losing him, IMHO, is addition by subtraction for the Orange. I will, however, be interested in seeing how this plays out if the suspension does stick. He got a red shirt exemption last year, no? He then has a remaining year of eligibility? Do they bring him back?
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Jack
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Post by Jack on Dec 10, 2008 23:14:03 GMT -5
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Post by kchoya on Dec 10, 2008 23:15:32 GMT -5
jgalt - i think they're angry that he didn't even knock the girl out. He's only shooting 32% from downtown this season. Clearly, his aim is off in more ways than one.
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CTHoya08
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Post by CTHoya08 on Dec 10, 2008 23:29:50 GMT -5
It's a private university inforcing it's own student code of conduct. the irony of your grammar post containing a moronic spelling mistake is not lost on the Lingus. Not to mention that the possessive is "its." "It's" is a contraction of "it is."
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Dec 10, 2008 23:37:58 GMT -5
Is anyone surprised by this? Really--the guy is CHEDDAR BOB for a reason and this type of behavior is expected from him. Maybe that is why Boeheim wasn't shocked--he knows Cheddar and this is likely nothing but regular behavior.
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