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Post by gtowndynasty on Sept 29, 2009 12:35:57 GMT -5
Yea I think we may have a shot at Roscoe, maybe it is a longer shot than many may want to admit, but a shot nonetheless. My reasoning is that Roscoe has taken many trips to G'Town, unofficial anyway. He is a local prospect who can get to campus at any time. Why would he spend an official on us if he is not feeling us? I know kids do this just to go to campuses and party it up with old teammates/opponents on the aau circuit, but this is different. He doesnt need an official to come to G'Town. Plus, you would have to wage your money on the fact that he is from the area and Im sure his family would love to be a support system to him as he begins his collegiate career.
With that said, Roscoe is definitely not a 4 and not a 2. Therefore, I wonder if he is giving any thought as to what will happen with Hollis, who is only 1 year ahead of him. That is a piece many people dont mention, but it goes into the analysis of EVERY recruit. What will my playing time be early? Hollis is a 3 and is supposed to be pretty good. What are the odds he is biding his time waiting to see what will materialize with the teams he is looking at and the players at his position?
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Sept 29, 2009 12:55:29 GMT -5
Good point on playing time dynasty. Duke will likely have barnes in the same class. Uconn has jamal coombs mcdaniel in this years class. Kansas has several SF including xavier henry and the morris twins. Florida doesn't really have anyone at SF of note that I know of. I think kansas is his least likely destination. I could see him at any of the other 4. I think there's a good chance he waits till spring or at least thats the buzz. I think hollis and roscoe could coexist especially since we may be short on bigs his freshman year and may ahve to play 4 out one in at times. Hollis is tall enough he could see some time at the 4 in the future. He's no skinnier than Ebanks who played 4 for WV.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Sept 29, 2009 13:24:17 GMT -5
If Roscoe comes to GU, he'll get plenty of time to hone his perimeter skills. We don't have any trouble putting all our players outside regardless of position.
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Post by gtowndynasty on Sept 29, 2009 15:46:23 GMT -5
That all sounds well and good SF, but are you implying he would come in starting? And if so, where? Because conventional wisdom seems to imply that of the potential starting 5 this season, whether it be Clark or Hollis, there will be only one defection after this season (Monroe) and that spot will likely go to Lubick. What you are saying sounds good, but these are questions these guys want to have answered. No top tier player wants to come off the bench these days, unless he is going to UNC. So it seems he would at least want to see what his obvious competition looks like to see if he can beat him out. Those are just the recruiting realities kind sir.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Sept 29, 2009 16:53:03 GMT -5
I honestly don't think roscoe is guaranteed a starting spot at any school on his list. JTIII always tells recruits that those who earn playing time will get playing time, and I think he's proven that. If roscoe comes in and is good enough to earn a starting position he'll get it same as at any other school. Florida is in the fianl 2 for carey prather RSCI #46. If he picks florida tomorrow that might dampen their chances at roscoe.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Sept 29, 2009 17:03:22 GMT -5
That all sounds well and good SF, but are you implying he would come in starting? And if so, where? Because conventional wisdom seems to imply that of the potential starting 5 this season, whether it be Clark or Hollis, there will be only one defection after this season (Monroe) and that spot will likely go to Lubick. What you are saying sounds good, but these are questions these guys want to have answered. No top tier player wants to come off the bench these days, unless he is going to UNC. So it seems he would at least want to see what his obvious competition looks like to see if he can beat him out. Those are just the recruiting realities kind sir. III has shown a marked tendency to have all of his positions develop perimeter skills, even the centers. He's also shown a tendency to play players "up a level" -- SF playing PF and so on, sacrificing size for skill. That's all I was saying. I don't know if Roscoe would start or not next year. If he is as good as stated, he'll certainly get a decent amount of PT, right? And he'll get the opportunity to earn a starting spot. And when he does play, he'll play all over the court in terms of inside and out. Is there any doubt? No team on that list -- and certainly not Duke -- can truthfully guaranteed Roscoe anything. And while competition at a position should be an input into the process, I'm a little wary of anyone who is scared of competing with anyone. From Roscoe's list, he doesn't seem scared of competition, either.
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Post by gtowndynasty on Sept 29, 2009 17:24:21 GMT -5
Oh I agree with both of you SF and HSB. I was saying though that I think, and I dont know Roscoe from a can of paint, that you give a very careful analysis to a team's roster and where you see yourself fitting in. With that said, he and Hollis are very similarly built with somewhat similar games, but hollis is only one year ahead of him and is not a one and done talent so he will presumably be here for a while. With some of the other schools he lists, duke for example, has a senior that would be ahead of him. Or even other schools he may look at that may have a player who is poised to leave school early (john wall waiting for a tyreke evans decision, and now brandon knight waiting to see what john wall will do). Anyway, it is just speculation on my part, but I have talked to a number of recruits that have looked at those scenarios so I just thought Id mention it.
Im sure Roscoe would find a great deal of pt wherever he chooses to go, but naturally there will be some programs with more of a need than others.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Sept 30, 2009 8:58:11 GMT -5
Praether did in fact commit to Florida this morning. Hopefully our chances just got a little better. If I had to guess I'd say it's between us and Uconn, but that's just speculation.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Sept 30, 2009 16:33:07 GMT -5
EvanDanielscout: Roscoe Smith is down to three schools -- Duke, Georgetown and Connecticut. Per his father.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Sept 30, 2009 16:49:59 GMT -5
Nice. Like I said before, I'd love to see Roscoe at GU.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Sept 30, 2009 16:53:47 GMT -5
I see this as a UCONN/GU race for some reason, almost like what Dajuan's recruitment would have looked like had he not popped early for us. It is a battle of that UCONN-Baltimore pipeline and us, the local school that has tried to work Baltimore recently, with mixed results. (i.e. win in the Summers recruitment, loss in the Greene recruitment and maybe others)
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Sept 30, 2009 17:18:26 GMT -5
get er done JTIII
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Sept 30, 2009 17:19:54 GMT -5
via zagsblog: Duke Coach Mike Krzyzewski will have a home visit today (Wednesday). Georgetown coach John Thompson III also comes to Oak Hill today to meet with Smith and UConn coach Jim Calhoun was at Oak Hill Tuesday.
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Post by hoyarooter on Sept 30, 2009 20:33:52 GMT -5
I see this as a UCONN/GU race for some reason, almost like what Dajuan's recruitment would have looked like had he not popped early for us. It is a battle of that UCONN-Baltimore pipeline and us, the local school that has tried to work Baltimore recently, with mixed results. (i.e. win in the Summers recruitment, loss in the Greene recruitment and maybe others) That's assuming you regard the Greene recruitment as a "loss." ;D
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Post by chep3 on Sept 30, 2009 20:42:00 GMT -5
If Florida was on his list and then suddenly wasn't, I'm assuming he did so because of Prather's commitment. What are the chances Duke gets Harrison Barnes and makes this a two team race? I was under the impression that most people thought Barnes was going to end up at UNC.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Sept 30, 2009 20:42:31 GMT -5
I see this as a UCONN/GU race for some reason, almost like what Dajuan's recruitment would have looked like had he not popped early for us. It is a battle of that UCONN-Baltimore pipeline and us, the local school that has tried to work Baltimore recently, with mixed results. (i.e. win in the Summers recruitment, loss in the Greene recruitment and maybe others) That's assuming you regard the Greene recruitment as a "loss." ;D I do from the point of view that Greene needed us more than we needed him. I do think, if he accepted the system, he would be a better player today than what he became at SU, which was a perimeter-oriented volume shooter with an underrated, underutilized post game. We would have also been more flexible in 2007-2008 than we were at the 4 spot. Still, the biggest loss of the JT3 era, I believe, is Anthony Randolph.
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Post by shf9 on Oct 1, 2009 13:03:17 GMT -5
If Florida was on his list and then suddenly wasn't, I'm assuming he did so because of Prather's commitment. What are the chances Duke gets Harrison Barnes and makes this a two team race? I was under the impression that most people thought Barnes was going to end up at UNC. Barnes is going to end up at Duke, but he will play shooting guard there (and will be a one-and-done). Duke is telling Smith that he will play small forward, obviously, and that there will be plenty of playing time up for grabs at the position when Singler leaves for the NBA after this season. Duke is not recruiting Smith as a backup to Barnes.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Oct 1, 2009 13:26:06 GMT -5
That's what they're telling him, but that's not the truth and smith knows it. Barnes isn't a SG he's a SF just like smith. They won't play together.
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Post by shf9 on Oct 1, 2009 13:31:49 GMT -5
That's what they're telling him, but that's not the truth and smith knows it. Barnes isn't a SG he's a SF just like smith. They won't play together. False. Anyone who has seen Barnes play knows that he will be a shooting guard in the NBA, and every program recruiting him is selling him as a shooting guard. Duke's system also allows for multiple swing position players to share the floor. Whether or not Smith will buy into that is a different story, but considering his final three includes Duke, it is safe to say he is listening.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2009 13:44:24 GMT -5
Isn't Duke already loaded with guards next year with Smith, Dawkins, Curry, Thornton and they are still looking at some other point guards like Irving. I think Barnes would play SF there.
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