DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Dec 16, 2011 14:35:49 GMT -5
If Rick Perry's wife starts going on serial, separate taxpayer funded flights so she can get away earlier on her 17 day vacations, I will hold her actions in equal disrgard. Unfortunately, the Perrys are guilty of spendthrift ways as well. "Texas' first lady Anita Perry met with consulting firms, gave speeches and hosted receptions during economic development trips to New York, Madrid and Amsterdam for which taxpayers were billed nearly $46,000 for her security expenses."www.beaumontenterprise.com/news/government/article/Texas-First-Lady-s-travel-security-cost-46-000-2183250.php
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Post by Elvado on Dec 16, 2011 16:04:21 GMT -5
That conduct is also deplorable. Good find
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Dec 27, 2011 0:17:53 GMT -5
One week until Iowa and no clear frontrunner has emerged in that state. A recent poll and RCP have Ron Paul ahead (barely), with Romney and Gingrich close behind. The Des Moines Register will likely come out with its own poll by the end of the week (probably the most trusted poll for Iowa).
My gut is that a Ron Paul victory would lead to an establishment rush to endorse Romney as long as he has a respectable showing. The Bush 41 endorsement may be a sign of things to come.
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Post by Boz on Dec 27, 2011 10:03:49 GMT -5
If an indecisive outcome in Iowa means that Iowa becomes less and less ALL IMPORTANT!!!!!!, I am all for that.
Next up, knocking down the New Hampshire dweebs a notch or three.
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Post by HoyaNyr320 on Dec 27, 2011 23:11:28 GMT -5
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Post by DFW HOYA on Dec 28, 2011 12:59:53 GMT -5
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Post by EasyEd on Dec 28, 2011 16:20:59 GMT -5
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Post by Filo on Dec 28, 2011 17:51:30 GMT -5
We can only hope he is in, indeed, a very good sleeper, and manages to sleep all the way through the election.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 28, 2011 18:08:14 GMT -5
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Dec 28, 2011 20:05:35 GMT -5
I think Santorum is the sleeper in Iowa - he will pull support from the fading secondary candidates, like Gingrich, Paul, and others. The extent of this flocking remains to be seen. My gut feeling is that most Americans would view guys like Santorum and Ron Paul as thoroughly out of the mainstream.
One underreported story is just how much the TP (Tea Party) has failed to find a credible, national voice, even with the darlings of the group on the ballot in the primaries this year. The result will most likely be the nomination of Mitt Romney, whose conservative credentials are beyond question.
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Post by Buckets on Dec 28, 2011 22:13:17 GMT -5
I've heard Santorum is up to second in the South Carolinian Octogenarian Straw Poll right behind the guy who wrote Ron Paul's newsletters.
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Post by TBird41 on Dec 28, 2011 23:40:10 GMT -5
One underreported story is just how much the TP (Tea Party) has failed to find a credible, national voice, even with the darlings of the group on the ballot in the primaries this year. The result will most likely be the nomination of Mitt Romney, whose conservative credentials are beyond question. Are you being sarcastic here? It seems like it. But, aside from maybe Bachmann, there wasn't a Tea Party candidate running for the nomination, and I would be shocked if the Tea Party folks really saw here as a potential president.
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Post by TC on Dec 29, 2011 0:12:40 GMT -5
The fact that the Tea Party can't get behind Ron Paul is proof positive of how fake that movement really is. A movement that says it is all about smaller government, less taxes, and less federal spending ends up only supporting social conservatives with varying degrees of small government cred.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Dec 29, 2011 0:13:47 GMT -5
There was some sarcasm there about Romney.
Herman Cain was in the race, and he was fashioned as a TP candidate. Santorum has also thrown his lot in with them and has attended many TP events. He was out with Rep. King the other day and seems to be actively courting the support of folks of his ilk. At another point in the race, Gov. Perry was deemed by some journalists as the TP frontrunner. (Oh yes, there's Ron Paul in there too.)
Now, is there someone who has been anointed by the TP grand puba, whoever that might be? No. That would be impossible since the TP is a conglomeration of shadowy networks, grassroots front groups, and community organizers. What has happened as a result is that the TP supporters - as they roll through candidates like tp - can hide behind this very thin veneer (paper thin, if you will) of legitimacy when their leaders stink (like a Herman Cain) and claim they had nothing to do with it. My hunch is that November 2012 will tell these folks that indeed their doo-doo stinks too.
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Post by Boz on Dec 29, 2011 11:23:16 GMT -5
Here you go, have some fun: www.usatoday.com/news/politics/candidate-match-gameCandidates I matched most closely with? Tie: Michelle Bachmann and John Huntsman....go figure. Candidate with whom I did not share a single policy approach? Barack Obama. Well, that makes sense at least.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Dec 29, 2011 11:35:45 GMT -5
I matched most closely with Obama (5 of 11 issues), followed by Ron Paul (2 of 11) and Huntsman (2 of 11).
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Post by strummer8526 on Dec 29, 2011 12:25:08 GMT -5
I matched most closely with Obama (5 of 11 issues), followed by Ron Paul (2 of 11) and Huntsman (2 of 11). I also went 5/11 w/ Obama, then 4/11 with Huntsman and 3/11 with Romney.
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Post by CTHoya08 on Dec 29, 2011 13:50:18 GMT -5
My three closest were Gingrich, Huntsman, and Perry, each with 3/11.
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Post by rosslynhoya on Dec 29, 2011 14:34:44 GMT -5
I don't want to spend much time describing how useless this exercise is, but it really falls apart because of a couple of key assumptions.
1. It assumes that people choose a presidential candidate based on a rational set of policy preferences, when in general, nobody sits down with a chinese menu like this to figure out what's going to benefit them most. I think most people are looking for more abstract meaning, which does not mean the same as being irrational. They're going with multiple variations of the "who would I like to have a beer with" test, or the "who's best poised to answer the red phone at 3 a.m." test. Does the person have the experience to be a good president? Does the person have good decision-making abilities? Can the person articulate a clear, persuasive message about why he/America are pretty freaking sweet? In any event, we don't necessarily want someone like us, we want someone better than us, preferably smarter and more mature.
2. The quiz assumes that the statements the candidates have made on the campaign trail are in any way related to their actual policy preferences or to the actions they will take once elected. For example, look at all of the GWOT-related promises made by the current president that have been completely set aside once he confronted the impossibility of them (for GOP equivalents, see: scrapping Obamacare by executive order, eliminating the EPA, abolishing the income tax, creating a free-market version of Medicare, etc.). It also overemphasizes the degree to which there is little substantive difference between the positions of most of the GOP candidates: what does USA Today think is the difference between cutting "unnecessary" defense spending and cutting "wasteful" defense spending!??!? And of course there's always Obama's alleged opposition to gay marriage, which completely invalidates any of these quizzes who take his statements at face value.
For what it's worth, I ended up drawing a tie between Huntsman and Romney (6/11) which I think is a pretty clear indictment of the quiz.
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Post by Boz on Dec 29, 2011 14:39:09 GMT -5
Hence the phrase "have some fun."
Sheesh, rosslyn. You're getting to be just as humorless as our esteemed Ambassador.
;D ;D ;D
(For me, my issue was that many of the statements were to easily attributable to specific individuals, so you could steer your way through it if you wanted to. I also took this as a sign that I am paying far too much attention to these candidates and need to get outside a little more. ;D )
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