njhoya06
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Post by njhoya06 on Oct 15, 2008 23:16:55 GMT -5
Cole Hamels is my King.
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ichirohoya
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Post by ichirohoya on Oct 16, 2008 0:03:37 GMT -5
With several days before the World Series starts, whats the over/under on daily Sportscenter replays of the Joe Carter 1993 homerun?
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Oct 16, 2008 10:43:41 GMT -5
Tampa has a nasty habit of derailing celebrations on Broad St.
See Buccaneers and Lightning.
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njhoya06
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Post by njhoya06 on Oct 16, 2008 12:02:51 GMT -5
These Phillies have been doubted all year.
Every single expert at ESPN picked either the Cubs or the Dodgers to win the NL. Nope, and it only took five games.
At the beginning of the year everyone and their mother thought Johan and the Mets would win the East. Nope, they choked like dogs again.
If we lose to the AL team, eh, it'd stink, but it's pretty cool to be in with a shot this late, and it's been a heck of a ride so far.
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Filo
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Post by Filo on Oct 16, 2008 12:15:35 GMT -5
Phillies are playing great ball, have been pretty solid all year, and play well in the clutch. Plus, they are a pretty likeable team (not many guys on the team that you want to root against, other than no-class Myers). I just don't buy the "everyone was picking against us, it's us against the world" stuff, but if you need that type of thing to make your fan experience more enjoyable, then go right ahead. Must be built into the fabric of the long-suffering Philadelphia sports fan.
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Jack
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Post by Jack on Oct 16, 2008 12:25:40 GMT -5
Phillies are playing great ball, have been pretty solid all year, and play well in the clutch. Plus, they are a pretty likeable team (not many guys on the team that you want to root against, other than no-class Myers). I just don't buy the "everyone was picking against us, it's us against the world" stuff, but if you need that type of thing to make your fan experience more enjoyable, then go right ahead. Must be built into the fabric of the long-suffering Philadelphia sports fan. Yeah, these Phillies are definitely good, and homegrown good, too. Their lineup matches up with anyone in the AL (even in AL parks there is no real drop-off when you can bring Dobbs or Stairs as DH), Madson and Lidge are a fantastic end to the game, and Hamels is clearly a stud. Myers is a classic jerk who I hope falls apart on the mound in the WS and the rest of the rotation is suspect, but otherwise there is no reason these Phillies cannot win it all.
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Oct 16, 2008 13:43:32 GMT -5
Major props to the Phillies, they deserve it. Hamels is where I hoped that Billingsley would be at this stage, but obviously isn't. The one nagging concern I have about the Phillies is Lidge. I just fear he will self-destruct. Now admittedly it didn't happen against the Brewers or the Dodgers, but that fear won't be put to rest for me until he navigates the Series.
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njhoya06
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Post by njhoya06 on Oct 16, 2008 13:50:38 GMT -5
Phillies are playing great ball, have been pretty solid all year, and play well in the clutch. Plus, they are a pretty likeable team (not many guys on the team that you want to root against, other than no-class Myers). I just don't buy the "everyone was picking against us, it's us against the world" stuff, but if you need that type of thing to make your fan experience more enjoyable, then go right ahead. Must be built into the fabric of the long-suffering Philadelphia sports fan. I was more just saying it because the Mets fan came in to rain on our parade, and I wanted to think of a way to tie their hilarious back to back end of season folding jobs into the current situation. It is true that no one from ESPN picked us to make the World Series (out of like 20 "experts"), and no one really gave us much of a shot before the year. Most places had us third after the Mets and the Braves. I'm not really a long suffering Philadelphia sports fan. The Phillies are the only team from Philly I root for. I'm from South Jersey, but the whole family is from North Jersey, so I was raised a Giants fan. My dad doesn't care about baseball, so I got stuck with the Phillies after rooting for them in 1993 when I was like 8 or whatever.
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 16, 2008 14:06:31 GMT -5
These Phillies have been doubted all year. At the beginning of the year everyone and their mother thought Johan and the Mets would win the East. Nope, they choked like dogs again. I would appreciate it if you did not refer to Johan as a choking dog. The Mets? Yeah, no problem with that, but I don't like to see the best pitcher of his generation grouped in with them, even if the Twins did trade him there.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Oct 16, 2008 15:50:50 GMT -5
Furthermore, the guy won 3 games in nine days down the stretch -- he's the opposite of a choking dog.
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njhoya06
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Post by njhoya06 on Oct 16, 2008 16:20:44 GMT -5
I only singled out Johan because after they made the trade is when the punditry decided the Mets were the best team in the NL East, Beltran unloaded the "To Jimmy Rollins: We are the team to beat," etc.
Johan pitched awesome down the stretch (all year for that matter) and certainly didn't choke or anything.
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Oct 16, 2008 17:32:34 GMT -5
The Phillies can, and may in fact, win the whole thing. I am a Met fan who certainly has seen enough of them to know.
By and large, they are an easy team to like, with the exception of Brett "Beater" Myers and Jayson "Walkabout" Werth who takes two mile strolls between pitches. When all the brushback nonsense was starting in the LA series, I was hoping Werth would be the one hit.
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GIGAFAN99
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Oct 16, 2008 23:21:37 GMT -5
Inexcusable for the Rays. Absolutely inexcusable.
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ichirohoya
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Post by ichirohoya on Oct 16, 2008 23:22:53 GMT -5
Inexcusable for the Rays. Absolutely inexcusable. Anybody else totally convinced that Boston is going to steamroll Tampa in games 6 and 7? This is looking unfortunately similar to 2004. I do not like this one bit.
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Oct 17, 2008 1:05:37 GMT -5
I think it's different then '04. In '04, the Sox were better team. I don't think they are this year.
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Post by DanMcQ on Oct 17, 2008 1:17:35 GMT -5
Just back from Fenway. WOW. What a game and what a comeback.
While RDF may be right (mainly because of injuries), the weekend should be interesting.
Bringing Papelbon in to pitch in the 7th reeked of desperation, but it worked and signalled to his team that Tito had not given up.
NEVER question The Playoff Tito.
Really enjoyed the fat guy with the blue mohawk wearing a white Elvis-style Rays suit who bellowed "RAYS RAYS RAYS!" under the stands before the game. Classic. He was not amused when I asked him where he left his cowbell.
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Boz
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Post by Boz on Oct 17, 2008 8:34:03 GMT -5
2004: The Red Sox take down the Evil Empire in unprecedented, historic fashion.
2008: The Red Sox ARE the Evil Empire.
I was impressed enough to watch the last few innings last night, no small accomplishment when it comes to me and baseball, so good for Boston. It would ahve been very easy to just give up the ghost last night and slink quietly away into the off-season (cough-Mets-cough).
As someone who was very happy for Boston in 2004, though, I am hoping they don't pull out the comeback this time around (OK, I don't really care all that much, but if I had my preference). I'd like to see the upstarts play the "guys who still haven't recovered from Mitch Williams" for the title.
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Oct 17, 2008 11:32:19 GMT -5
Better team wins in Pro Sports--and it'll happen again. Maybe Sox will just catch fire and build off last night--but they surged late in year and when I expected Rays to fold and Sox to overtake them--Rays held on. If form holds--same thing happens here. Although if I were interested in either team--I'd say that it's important for Tampa to win in Game 6 against an ailing Beckett because Lester is best pitcher on team right now.
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Post by hoyarooter on Oct 17, 2008 13:31:05 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see how a team as young as Tampa rebounds from this. If the "real" Beckett were pitching tomorrow I would be high on the Red Sox' chances, but it's clear he isn't right. I look for Tampa to close it out tomorrow.
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Post by DanMcQ on Oct 18, 2008 23:40:53 GMT -5
Big Game James Shields needs a new nickname.
(stolen from Adam Kilgore on boston.com)
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