hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Oct 19, 2008 2:19:47 GMT -5
Please tell me this isn't really Shields' nickname. I don't want to see James Worthy go to Tampa and beat him up.
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Post by DanMcQ on Oct 19, 2008 23:07:14 GMT -5
Congrats to Tampa Bay - Lester pitched a great game, but Garza was brilliant tonight. The ALCS mirrored the regular season. At least this way I will have more free time to devote to Hoya basketball without that pesky World Series to distract me.
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Post by RDF on Oct 19, 2008 23:14:20 GMT -5
Good series and Sox deserve credit for fighting to get back in it--they were awful in Games 3 and 4 and most of 5 and then damn near stole the series--so good showing of fight--but better team won--as usually happens in sports.
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Post by DanMcQ on Oct 19, 2008 23:18:15 GMT -5
Oh, and I defy anyone to dislike Joe Maddon. Class guy all the way.
Sox really really missed Mike Lowell. It will be interesting to see what happens to the Sox roster over the offseason - lots of decisions to be made.
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Post by ichirohoya on Oct 20, 2008 0:30:28 GMT -5
You know, when the Rays fought with the Yankees in spring training, I remember thinking "oh- crap this team may force the Orioles into last place." They certainly did that. But man, who would have thought there would be world series games played in Tampa? Certainly not me.
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HoyaFanNY
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Oct 20, 2008 6:23:44 GMT -5
kotsay and varitek killed boston. they left a small village on base this series. how he lets both of them hit in the 9th last night is beyond me. kotsay should have to walk back to boston and the 'captain' needs to be taken behind the barn and put out of his misery.
as for maddon..... i can't take anyone serously that has that haircut and wears those glasses. i can't stand that craphole they play in and those fair weather fans that couldn't name 5 devil rays when the season started, especially that camera whore dukie v.
go phillies
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 20, 2008 6:28:53 GMT -5
kotsay and varitek killed boston. they left a small village on base this series. how he lets both of them hit in the 9th last night is beyond me. kotsay should have to walk back to boston and the 'captain' needs to be taken behind the barn and put out of his misery. as for maddon..... i can't take anyone serously that has that haircut and wears those glasses. i can't stand that craphole they play in and those fair weather fans that couldn't name 5 devil rays when the season started, especially that camera whore dukie v. go phillies At least Tampa fans weren't leaving games early...
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HoyaFanNY
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Oct 20, 2008 9:26:41 GMT -5
no, they weren't going to games at all until the playoffs. they had a series with the yankees in early september and averaged 24k a game, most probably yankee fans. they finished 26th in average attendance this year (22k a game), and they were in first almost all season.
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Post by kghoya on Oct 20, 2008 9:54:17 GMT -5
great to see the red sox lose.
thank you tampa!
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Post by hifigator on Oct 20, 2008 10:25:30 GMT -5
NY, I can't argue with you. I am a "fair weather" Ray fan I guess. I didn't go to a single game during the regular season, but I went down for Game 1 of the ALCS and I am going to go down Wednesday for Game 1 of the Series.
In fairness though, the location of the stadium sucks. It isn't in Tampa but rather St. Pete. They should have put the stadium adjacent to Raymond James. Attendance would be much better if the stadium was on the Tampa side of the bay.
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 20, 2008 11:06:04 GMT -5
no, they weren't going to games at all until the playoffs. they had a series with the yankees in early september and averaged 24k a game, most probably yankee fans. they finished 26th in average attendance this year (22k a game), and they were in first almost all season. Yeah, but they weren't exactly proclaiming themselves the "World's Best Fans" like so many Boston fans like to do.
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Post by kchoya on Oct 20, 2008 11:22:04 GMT -5
as for maddon..... i can't take anyone serously that has that haircut and wears those glasses. Being an apparent Michigan fan, are you consistent and have you come out against Rich Rod's equally abominable haircut?
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HoyaFanNY
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Oct 20, 2008 11:35:15 GMT -5
no, they weren't going to games at all until the playoffs. they had a series with the yankees in early september and averaged 24k a game, most probably yankee fans. they finished 26th in average attendance this year (22k a game), and they were in first almost all season. Yeah, but they weren't exactly proclaiming themselves the "World's Best Fans" like so many Boston fans like to do. i'm not a boston fan, so i can't really disagree with that t
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Post by Cambridge on Oct 20, 2008 13:24:50 GMT -5
A jubiliant Philly would alter the time-space continuoum. We can't risk that. Therefore, for the safety of human life as we know it, I'm rooting for the Rays. Sorry Philly, you are doomed.
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Post by ichirohoya on Oct 20, 2008 14:07:20 GMT -5
kotsay and varitek killed boston. they left a small village on base this series. how he lets both of them hit in the 9th last night is beyond me. kotsay should have to walk back to boston and the 'captain' needs to be taken behind the barn and put out of his misery. as for maddon..... i can't take anyone serously that has that haircut and wears those glasses. i can't stand that craphole they play in and those fair weather fans that couldn't name 5 devil rays when the season started, especially that camera whore dukie v. go phillies What would Francona's pinch-hitting options have been in the 9th? If he bats Lowrie for Varitek and the kid grounds out, all of New England would have made a huge fuss. Also, how can you possibly suggest that Jason Varitek wasn't worthy of batting in the 9th inning? Don't you know that he was an American League All Star this year and that the Scarlet "C" on his jersey gives him super-powers?
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Post by Elvado on Oct 20, 2008 14:20:12 GMT -5
2002 Buccaneers step on Philly's neck on way to title
2004 Lightning step on Philly's neck on way to title
if there's a God in Heaven the Rays do the same in '08
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Post by CTHoya08 on Oct 20, 2008 14:53:28 GMT -5
A jubiliant Philly would alter the time-space continuoum. We can't risk that. Therefore, for the safety of human life as we know it, I'm rooting for the Rays. Sorry Philly, you are doomed. It is a risk, but a Phillies victory would spare us the "Philadelphia hasn't won a championship since Villanova in 1985" statistic for the rest of our lives.
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Post by Elvado on Oct 20, 2008 14:58:22 GMT -5
Anyone with a rudimentary sense of geography and an even more basic sense of how nova is perceived in Philly knows that was no Philly title.
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 20, 2008 15:34:35 GMT -5
A jubiliant Philly would alter the time-space continuoum. We can't risk that. Therefore, for the safety of human life as we know it, I'm rooting for the Rays. Sorry Philly, you are doomed. It is a risk, but a Phillies victory would spare us the "Philadelphia hasn't won a championship since Villanova in 1985" statistic for the rest of our lives. Gotta agree w/ Vado on this one. Nova's title doesn't count for Philly. To be honest, I rarely hear it brought up when people talk about Philly's title drought--the Sixers 1983 title is the one that's usually referenced.
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Post by hifigator on Oct 20, 2008 16:01:13 GMT -5
On a side note, I am thrilled that the Rays closed the deal. When they squandered that 7 run lead in game 5, I was scared to death that the Sox would pull off the comeback. But the Rays showed the same focus that they had shown during the regular season.
In all honesty, I am very surprised how it unfolded -- not that the Rays could win, but how they won. I went down there for game 1, and they really played poorly. I'm not taking anything away from Dice K. He certainly was on his game but still Tampa had a bit of that deer in the headlights look in that first game. They were trailing 1-0 going to the bottom of the seventh and had runners at first and third with no outs. You absolutely must tie the game in that spot. They were at the bottom third of the order, and Boston was playing at double play depth. Even a grounder there ties the game. But the Rays popped out for the first out and then struck out for the second. A simple grounder ended the inning without a run. Then in the top of the 8th, Carl Crawford made an error allowing an insurance run to score. They called it a hit, but he should have caught it. I know for sure, since it was right in front of me. It was somewhat of a tough play, but Big Leaguers make that catch. Still they were only down 2-0 going to the bottom of the 8th. Once again they got the first two runners on with Pena coming to the plate. Boston went to their pen and the lefty was wild. He was immediately in a 3-0 hole. Personally, I would have given Pena the take sign. Maddon gave him the priviledge. In fairness to Pena, he got a good pitch to hit and lined it to right field, but JD Drew made almost the exact same catch that Crawford didn't, the previous inning. Two outs later and they still hadn't scored. I just thought that the Rays didn't play smart baseball and didn't do those little things that are often the difference between winning and losing. Fortunately they righted the ship in time and started playing long ball.
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