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Post by AustinHoya03 on Sept 24, 2008 20:43:44 GMT -5
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Post by RDF on Sept 25, 2008 0:01:22 GMT -5
Actually the Pac 10 had more players on opening day NFL Rosters then any other conference--but I'm not going to rag on SEC--I think it's got the most talent in country and great players/teams.
UVA is down to their 3rd string QB right Austin? Lalich transferred to Oregon State, and Sewell was dismissed in Spring---so things aren't looking too good for Al Groh's bunch at all.
Cutcliffe is going to do a nice job--he did at Ole Miss and it's obvious how much Fat Butt Fulmer misses him at Tennessee--they have no direction on offense-that is a chaotic mess.
Just think of this--Duke is favored and Vandy and Northwestern are both 4-0!!
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Post by The Stig on Sept 25, 2008 23:32:26 GMT -5
Oregon State changes things up a bit....
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Post by RDF on Sept 25, 2008 23:48:42 GMT -5
As I said after their Hawaii game--there is always one Pac 10 team who is a tough team at home--and Oregon State beat Hawaii by same margin Florida did--so this game was trouble for USC--not to mention Mike Riley is a good coach.
USC has no excuses either--they were DOMINATED upfront on both sides of ball and their OC--Sarkisian is quickly becoming one of the biggest idiots in the country. When I saw Penn State demolish Oregon State-they lined up and pounded the football right at them--as did Stanford with Toby Gerhart--so what does he do on initial possession? 2 passes and then runs in a predictable down/distance. He's just "too cute" for his own good in most games and Pac 10 defenses have him figured out. The drive that ended game with INT--was example. You are down 1 SCORE--why the panic and throwing every down? Mix it up a bit and roll Sanchez out--where he's proven to be at his best--on the roll outs. Bad coaching.
USC's defense was pathetic as well. The vaunted LB stunk tonight--and didn't get off blocks and make plays.
Upsets need some breaks though and with all of that said--the play right before Halftime was difference--if that is intercepted--Oregon State loses.
The officiating crew tonight--SCIENCE TEACHER is the worst in country--as I said during ASU-UGA game--which shows how big that win was for UGA. The biggest gaffe tonight--when the TE for USC catches a pass for a 1st Down and is out of bounds--they started clock up--when it shouldn't have started. Clock rules revert back to normal at 2 minute mark and it cost USC 25-30 seconds. They never noticed/bothered to notice.
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Post by hifigator on Sept 26, 2008 11:23:44 GMT -5
RDF, I can't believe that you are calling out the refs for costing USC time. They were the beneficiary of a number of questionable clock issues. Granted, that only justifies your criticisms of the refs in general, but if anything USC benefitted from the antics. When USC's linebacker went down, with "injury" USC had already called a timeout. I think it might have been their last, but not sure. Then they were given the timeout back. Sure, the ref has that discretion, but in that situation, I would think that they would also have the discretion to use the 40 second clock rather than the 25 second clock. Otherwise, you would just have someone feigning an injury every play. I'm not saying that is what USC did, but regardless, they benefitted in not having to use the time out and also by Oregon State only being able to burn 25 seconds rather than 40. Then a few plays later it happened again. The refs stopped the clock for no reason -- or maybe the clock operator did. Either way, the clock was supposed to be running, but when it stopped they restarted it but only with a 25 second clock. Those two questionble decisions could have cost the Beavers the game. After the interception, USC still had 1 timeout and there was something like 2:15 in the game. If there were just a few less seconds then Oregon St. could just have taken a knee and run the clock out. Personally, I think they should have anyway. I think they should have just fallen forward and made USC take their last timeout. Then burn 40 seconds between 2 and 3rd down and there would have been about 1:25 when they snapped the ball. On third down, then they could either take a knee, allowing them to take the clock all the way down to about 30 seconds. Then they could either try to run it in or risk a field goal, although I wouldn't have chosen that option. Instead by scoring right away, they had to kick the ball off with still nearly 2 minutes left and USC still with a timeout. They were an onsides kick away from getting jerked around.
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Post by RDF on Sept 26, 2008 12:37:46 GMT -5
RDF, I can't believe that you are calling out the refs for costing USC time. They were the beneficiary of a number of questionable clock issues. Granted, that only justifies your criticisms of the refs in general, but if anything USC benefitted from the antics. When USC's linebacker went down, with "injury" USC had already called a timeout. I think it might have been their last, but not sure. Then they were given the timeout back. Sure, the ref has that discretion, but in that situation, I would think that they would also have the discretion to use the 40 second clock rather than the 25 second clock. Otherwise, you would just have someone feigning an injury every play. I'm not saying that is what USC did, but regardless, they benefitted in not having to use the time out and also by Oregon State only being able to burn 25 seconds rather than 40. Then a few plays later it happened again. The refs stopped the clock for no reason -- or maybe the clock operator did. Either way, the clock was supposed to be running, but when it stopped they restarted it but only with a 25 second clock. Those two questionble decisions could have cost the Beavers the game. After the interception, USC still had 1 timeout and there was something like 2:15 in the game. If there were just a few less seconds then Oregon St. could just have taken a knee and run the clock out. Personally, I think they should have anyway. I think they should have just fallen forward and made USC take their last timeout. Then burn 40 seconds between 2 and 3rd down and there would have been about 1:25 when they snapped the ball. On third down, then they could either take a knee, allowing them to take the clock all the way down to about 30 seconds. Then they could either try to run it in or risk a field goal, although I wouldn't have chosen that option. Instead by scoring right away, they had to kick the ball off with still nearly 2 minutes left and USC still with a timeout. They were an onsides kick away from getting jerked around. What part of "their biggest gaffe tonight" don't you understand? I didn't say the calls hurt USC--I said that crew is awful--said it prior to game--dating back to last weekend's game with UGA against ASU, so WTF is your point? BTW--it's a rule in all of football--if a player is injured--and the team took a timeout--they have choice to get that timeout back-it was a legit injury--as Maualuga didn't return to game and was being driven off field after the game with ice on his knee. It wasn't faking--it was a legitimate injury--which was proven by the replay. To suggest this--means you refused to watch the game with open eyes--instead of rooting interest. As for the handling of time on the clock-nothing with Pac 10 officials is surprising. They are BY FAR the worst in the country and the fact it makes the league even more quirky is enjoyable, laughable, and head scratching all at same time.
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Post by hifigator on Sept 26, 2008 15:29:55 GMT -5
RDF, you missed my point. The play was a live play and unless a time out was taken, then the 40 second clock would have been in use. Instead, the officials stopped the clock and then when it was restarted, they used the 25 second clock. That allowed USC to save their timeout to a more effective time -- one when it might save them 40 seconds instead of 25. The second time, however was even more bizarre. The clock was running. There was no reason for it to stop at all. For whatever reason it did. Once they "corrected" the problem, they spotted the ball with the 25 second clock again. That was unfair to Oregon State.
As for the injury, I thought I was pretty clear that I didn't think USC was in any way faking the injury, just pointing out that if that is all there is to it, then you could easily play the system with guys cramping up or whatever, saving yourself a timeout and/or losing 25 seconds instead of 40. But yes, the officials were bad across the board.
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Post by hifigator on Sept 26, 2008 16:46:16 GMT -5
I for one am really looking forward to an afternoon and evening of watching some football. I really haven't had one of those days yet this year. I have been to all of the Gator games, including the one in Knoxville last week, and haven't had the chance to just sit and enjoy some good tube time. Bama-Georgia should be a really good game along with Illinois-Penn St. I am kind of interested to see the Va. Tech-Nebraska game as well.
The early start time for the Florida game jerked me around, since I can't get off from work. Oh well, such is life. But as soon as I get off from work, couch here I come!
On Edit: I forgot to mention the Miami-UNC and Tennessee-Auburn games. Lots of football tomorrow!!!
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Post by hoyarooter on Sept 26, 2008 16:55:38 GMT -5
Well, at least the result of this game left me laughing through my tears.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Sept 26, 2008 22:56:12 GMT -5
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Post by hifigator on Sept 27, 2008 10:44:57 GMT -5
Don't worry Austin, I think you will be fine against the Hogs. They are really, really bad this year. I'm thinking something like 35-13 Horns.
Hook 'em Horns!
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Sept 27, 2008 14:34:07 GMT -5
Don't worry Austin, I think you will be fine against the Hogs. They are really, really bad this year. I'm thinking something like 35-13 Horns. Hook 'em Horns! Oh, I'm not worried. But I think you should be, because Florida and Ole Miss are tied at 24 with 7 minutes left in the 4th quarter, and the Rebs just got the ball back. UNC and Miami both looked like programs headed in the right direction today. I wouldn't be surprised if the Heels and Canes are competing for ACC supremacy in a couple years. RDF had to be pretty bummed that Marve missed the winning TD pass by about 3 inches. ON EDIT: And Ole Miss just went 85 yards for a TD.
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Post by TBird41 on Sept 27, 2008 15:00:03 GMT -5
Don't worry Austin, I think you will be fine against the Hogs. They are really, really bad this year. I'm thinking something like 35-13 Horns. Hook 'em Horns! Oh, I'm not worried. But I think you should be, because Florida and Ole Miss are tied at 24 with 7 minutes left in the 4th quarter, and the Rebs just got the ball back. UNC and Miami both looked like programs headed in the right direction today. I wouldn't be surprised if the Heels and Canes are competing for ACC supremacy in a couple years. RDF had to be pretty bummed that Marve missed the winning TD pass by about 3 inches. ON EDIT: And Ole Miss just went 85 yards for a TD. Don't think Hifi will be responding to you... ;D
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Post by EasyEd on Sept 27, 2008 15:06:39 GMT -5
Final Ole Miss 31, Florida 30.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Sept 27, 2008 15:11:06 GMT -5
Final Ole Miss 31, Florida 30. OK!
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Post by williambraskyiii on Sept 27, 2008 16:59:27 GMT -5
edited hifi edited . Urban Crybaby Meyer and the rest of you edited folk can edited .
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Post by SirSaxa on Sept 27, 2008 17:51:29 GMT -5
edited hifi edited . Urban Crybaby Meyer and the rest of you edited folk can edited . Enough with the subtlety Brasky, tell us how your REALLY feel!
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Post by vcjack on Sept 27, 2008 18:34:38 GMT -5
Its one thing to lose a game.
Its another to lose after giving up 20 POINTS IN THE 4th QUARTER! Another trip to the Big House and another L.
I'm gonna need Hoya Basketball to get me through the year
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Post by washingtonhoya on Sept 27, 2008 18:46:46 GMT -5
Its one thing to lose a game. Its another to lose after giving up 20 POINTS IN THE 4th QUARTER! Another trip to the Big House and another L. I'm gonna need Hoya Basketball to get me through the year BUWAHAHAHAHAHA Michigan is not a good team this year by any stretch of the imagination. But man, was that fourth quarter fun to watch.
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Post by FLHoya on Sept 27, 2008 19:01:35 GMT -5
UNC and Miami both looked like programs headed in the right direction today. I wouldn't be surprised if the Heels and Canes are competing for ACC supremacy in a couple years. RDF had to be pretty bummed that Marve missed the winning TD pass by about 3 inches. Basically UNC's victory brought four teams back into the discussion for the ACC Coastal--Va Tech, Ga Tech, UNC and UM (I still...can't...say...Duke...yet). And the Clemson-MD and Navy-Wake games brought the conference...well, to a new low perhaps. Great moment in the second half of UM-UNC when the announcers were debating whether all these even conferences were a result of "parity" or "mediocrity"...I won't spoil where the ACC fell in the discussion. UNC and Miami are both on the way up for sure. UNC absorbed the early blow and really dominated the line of scrimmage after the first quarter---surprised how little UM was able to pressure the 17th Paulus brother and how seldom they sent blitzes. And I DO. NOT. LIKE. the rotation thing when Marve and Cooper are taken out for Harris and the other RBs...killed all the momentum today in the 1st half. But full credit to UNC for a good comeback and a well-deserved win for a GREAT coach in Butch Davis. If it was last week, Marve completes that final pass, but oh well...bout the closest you can come to winning and not do it. After today, a question--who if anyone can run the table in their own conference this season? The SEC requires so many tough games to do it, ditto the Big 12 if you add in the title game, the Big East/ACC stink, I don't see OSU/PSU doing it, and the one PAC-10 team that couldve done it just lost. We'll see you in the Peach Bowl, hifi! ;D
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