Overheard HS kids on train

[nodak89]

Jul 24, 2008 9:16:23 GMT -5 vcjack said:

Bah, come to Chicago

We have Batman

And Bartman

[Whoya]

Jul 24, 2008 9:45:56 GMT -5 HoyaSinceBirth said:

past 3 years for the BET. So obviously it's slightly more crowded then for that reason. But it is still very dirty more so than DC. And it is an indication that more people want to be there. But the majority of people are stupid so that's not a good thing.
NYers think the world revolves around NY. If it weren't for the BET i'd probably never go to that gaudy hell hole.

Oh, so you're judging the entirety of The City based upon the area around MSG during BET time? Yeah, seems fair. Oh and "the majority of the people are stupid" seems like a very reasonable and not at all elitist view. Again from BET time, which, as we know, draws in Cuse fans. Kudos for your insightful analysis.

[strummer8526]

Jul 24, 2008 9:24:18 GMT -5 Whoya said:

In the interests of full disclosure, I'm not even from The City, nor have I ever lived there. I'm from what can best be described as a glorified suburb of The City.

I sense another New Jersey-ite on the board. As one born in Brooklyn and raised in NJ from age 2 until college, I can honestly say that NY is good for a weekend, a trip, an event, etc. I lived only 30 min or so from "The City," so I did travel in every now and again. But to live there, you'd have to be out of your goddamn mind. Still for some reason, people who do live there think that it's somehow a medal of honor to drag yourself through every miserable aspect of humanity on a daily basis. Thankfully, my parents (both life-long Brooklyn folk) decided that it was a medal not worth bestowing on their son. I'll take D.C., thank you.

All that being said, NYC is "The City," at least as far as I've always known. It's probably derived more from the fact that "the city" of New York has the same name as "the state" of New York, so there would be more reason to say "the city." You'd never hear someone say "I'm going to Chicago" and then the question "city or upstate"?

[Whoya]

Jul 24, 2008 9:52:38 GMT -5 strummer8526 said:

Jul 24, 2008 9:24:18 GMT -5 Whoya said:

In the interests of full disclosure, I'm not even from The City, nor have I ever lived there. I'm from what can best be described as a glorified suburb of The City.

I sense another New Jersey-ite on the board.

Eek. No, not NJ, CT. Go ahead, take your shots. But also offspring of 2 NYers (Bklyn and Queens) who chose not to raise us in NYC.

Oh and who goes to Upstate NY? On purpose?

[strummer8526]

Jul 24, 2008 9:57:14 GMT -5 hoopsmccan said:

Yeah, I grew up outside the city and thought it was intimidating and not really livable...

Needlessly crude. 5 minutes before it gets edited? Maybe 10? I can't wait to see the red font.

A little late, but it's a summer schedule.-Admin

[vcjack]

"All that being said, NYC is "The City," at least as far as I've always known. It's probably derived more from the fact that "the city" of New York has the same name as "the state" of New York, so there would be more reason to say "the city." You'd never hear someone say "I'm going to Chicago" and then the question "city or upstate"? "

I was born in "the city" as well and lived in the area for 7 years but if I told someone I was going into "The City" I would probably be referring to whatever city I'm closest to at that point.

Besides all peoples within an 80 mile radius of Chicago claim they are from "Chicago" because to say you are from "Illinois" is lame and boring, so if they were actually from "The City" they would say so

[hoyasexy]

Jul 24, 2008 10:13:07 GMT -5 vcjack said:

Besides all peoples within an 80 mile radius of Chicago claim they are from "Chicago" because to say you are from "Illinois" is lame and boring, so if they were actually from "The City" they would say so

I think it's funny when they say they're from "Chicagoland." That has always sounded more like an amusement park than a region to me.

[jgalt]

Jul 24, 2008 10:13:07 GMT -5 vcjack said:

I was born in "the city" as well and lived in the area for 7 years but if I told someone I was going into "The City" I would probably be referring to whatever city I'm closest to at that point.

this is the answer to this stupid argument. if someone outside of L.A. (not LA=Louisiana, we cant have that debate again) says, "im going to the city" they dont mean New York, that would be retarded. the same goes for people outside of any major city. to say "the city" and assume that everyone figures your talking about New York is really pretentious and annoying.

Now if you are in the midst of a conversation about New York (or any other city that you are not near) and then you say "the city" then, ok you can assume that people figure you are referring to the city you are discussing at the time.

I will say that, for anyone in D.C. or northward, saying "The City" with great emphasis on the term could reasonably imply New York. But one should not assume that others will think New York unless the speaker has some connection to New York and a good reason to be going there.

Either way, New Yorkers are very pretentious because they think they are "The City." there are few things that happen or exist in New York that dont happen or exist in other cities. And each city has its own unique features, not just New York. Additionally, comparing New York to other cities in many ways is stupid, because there are some many more people that live in the five boroughs than in any other city (and that is not necessarily a good thing).

New York is full of ugly people, especially compared to Washington. And crazies.

Finally, the only thing worse than a pretentious New Yorker, are those that live well outside of the five boroughs but consider them selves to be New Yorkers. And im not talking Jersey City; im talking Islip, Greenwich, or New Brunswick. I live withing walking distance of the DC line, but i aint from DC and i wouldnt tell anyone i am.

[tgo]

Jul 24, 2008 10:54:57 GMT -5 jgalt said:

no one has ever refered to LA as 'the city,' i have lived in so-cal for 10 years and it has yet to happen.

Please resubmit--the post was incorrectly modified. Thanks.

[Filo]

Jul 24, 2008 10:12:31 GMT -5 strummer8526 said:

Jul 24, 2008 9:57:14 GMT -5 hoopsmccan said:

Yeah, I grew up outside the city and thought it was intimidating and not really livable...

Needlessly crude.

Some would say 'hilariously accurate?"

[lichoya68]

is there a fordham train stop outside of la if so let us no if not arguement kinda over and done go hoyas go big apple the city with a fordham train stop just on the way to the center of the big apple OK??

[PDRHoya99]

Jul 24, 2008 11:21:08 GMT -5 tgo said:

no one has ever refered to LA as 'the city,' i have lived in so-cal for 10 years and it has yet to happen.

Excellent point tgo, in my 4+ years in LA I've never heard anyone call it the city. In fact, on the rare instances I've heard the term used with regards to a west coast city it meant San Francisco, regardless of whether the person was in SoCal or NorCal.

That said, I was just making a joke about the Golden State Warriors throwbacks (which despite their misuse of "The City" are pretty bad-ass). NYC is the city. Having lived in DC, SF, LA and tangentially in Brooklyn, I can say all have their perks, and of course they're all better than Chicago.

[Admin]

FWIW, in the 1960's the opening line of the TV show Dragnet was..."This Is The City."

[JohnJacquesLayup]

I've always thought "The City" referred to Baltimore. No?

[lichoya68]

baltimore would be charm city home of summers and simms yup hoyas true

[lichoya68]

and reggie and wingate yup go baltimore

[hoyarooter]

SF meant to type "50 and foggy". Typos happen.

I've always thought NYC was a great city to visit. But it ain't London. Not even close.

[strummer8526]

Jul 24, 2008 11:56:58 GMT -5 Admin said:

FWIW, in the 1960's the opening line of the TV show Dragnet was..."This Is The City."

I stand corrected. If Joe Friday said that L.A. was "the city," then you know it's a fact. Just a fact.

[Hoya TMF]

Jul 24, 2008 10:54:57 GMT -5 jgalt said:

Jul 24, 2008 10:13:07 GMT -5 vcjack said:

I was born in "the city" as well and lived in the area for 7 years but if I told someone I was going into "The City" I would probably be referring to whatever city I'm closest to at that point.

this is the answer to this stupid argument. if someone outside of L.A. (not LA=Louisiana, we cant have that debate again) says, "im going to the city" they dont mean New York, that would be retarded. the same goes for people outside of any major city. to say "the city" and assume that everyone figures your talking about New York is really pretentious and annoying.

Now if you are in the midst of a conversation about New York (or any other city that you are not near) and then you say "the city" then, ok you can assume that people figure you are referring to the city you are discussing at the time.

I will say that, for anyone in D.C. or northward, saying "The City" with great emphasis on the term could reasonably imply New York. But one should not assume that others will think New York unless the speaker has some connection to New York and a good reason to be going there.

Either way, New Yorkers are very pretentious because they think they are "The City." there are few things that happen or exist in New York that dont happen or exist in other cities. And each city has its own unique features, not just New York. Additionally, comparing New York to other cities in many ways is stupid, because there are some many more people that live in the five boroughs than in any other city (and that is not necessarily a good thing).

New York is full of ugly people, especially compared to Washington. And crazies.

Finally, the only thing worse than a pretentious New Yorker, are those that live well outside of the five boroughs but consider them selves to be New Yorkers. And im not talking Jersey City; im talking Islip, Greenwich, or New Brunswick. I live withing walking distance of the DC line, but i aint from DC and i wouldnt tell anyone i am.

I hope you didn't think this comment was going to fly under the radar. I can only assume it was sarcasm, because there is no way that "New York is full of ugly people, especially compared to Washington. And crazies." I'll concede the crazies, but the crazies make New York all the more interesting. Plus, DC has plenty of crazies, its just that they are closeted in the seer sucker suits. Poor b@stards. I'd hate to have my crazy bottled up all the time.

More importantly, New York is full of celebrities, models and some of the most beautiful "normal people" I've ever seen. Every time I come home to the City, I'm reminded just how many HOT people live in New York. It's not that people in DC are ugly so much as boring looking. There is a higher hotness concentration and a more varied hotness experience in the City. Whatever you like, there is something for you. And plenty of stuff that you never knew you'd like until you tried it.

[prhoya]

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