hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Jul 10, 2008 20:04:03 GMT -5
I would love to see the '84 semi-final vs. Louisville. I think i've only seen it once and they never show it on ESPN Classic. Defensive battle I know. Anybody have it DVR'd or Tivo'd? Long and Brunner ran themselves outta GU; in Sheffey's case he "drove" himself out and down Sherriff Rd at about 90 MPH, but I digress. Wingate had the quickest firststep I've ever seen not named MJ or Worthy. We have it here on Hoyatalk. One of the Louisville posters posted it as a "present" prior to the rematch this last season.
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jgalt
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Post by jgalt on Jul 10, 2008 21:43:52 GMT -5
I would love to see the '84 semi-final vs. Louisville. I think i've only seen it once and they never show it on ESPN Classic. Defensive battle I know. Anybody have it DVR'd or Tivo'd? Videotape was all that was available in 1984. Somebody has to have it somewhere... I have the final... but on Betamax. Well i know someone with a betamax player... for a few bucks im sure i could acquisition it ;D
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idhoya
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Post by idhoya on Jul 10, 2008 22:15:28 GMT -5
Great. How can I get it?
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Post by lexkyhoya on Jul 11, 2008 13:17:08 GMT -5
84 semi was against Kentucky... every now and then ESPN classic will run "Classic Final Fours" (may be wrong title) but I have seen the 84 highlights a couple of times but it has been several years... if I find it on again will DVR and post
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idhoya
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Post by idhoya on Jul 11, 2008 13:20:59 GMT -5
I meant '82 semi
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Jul 11, 2008 21:07:56 GMT -5
id, did you see my prior post? We have the game here on Hoyatalk.
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SaxaCD
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Post by SaxaCD on Jul 12, 2008 10:27:12 GMT -5
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idhoya
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Post by idhoya on Jul 12, 2008 13:14:53 GMT -5
Thanks. I kinda like the old white uni's. Ewing was sooooooo long.
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Hoya LNU
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Post by Hoya LNU on Jul 12, 2008 13:41:07 GMT -5
Roy's dressed for the Tombs (just took off his Pacers warmup)
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hoyaLS05
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Post by hoyaLS05 on Jul 12, 2008 14:33:00 GMT -5
Had to leave at halftime for another hard days work for housing. I'll leave the full recaps for others, but (1) Roy had a ridiculous dunk in transition thanks to a no look pass from Chris and (2) Chris nailed threes on three straight possessions and has to have 15 points or so at half. Monroe and Sims look good too. Tombs front line for part of the half: Roy (7-2), Henry (6-11) and Greg (6-10), plus 6-foot-8 Nikita in the backcourt.
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jgalt
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Post by jgalt on Jul 12, 2008 14:34:58 GMT -5
WHY DIDNT I GO TODAY!!!!!
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Jul 12, 2008 14:40:09 GMT -5
Had to leave at halftime for another hard days work for housing. I'll leave the full recaps for others, but (1) Roy had a ridiculous dunk in transition thanks to a no look pass from Chris and (2) Chris nailed threes on three straight possessions and has to have 15 points or so at half. Monroe and Sims look good too. Tombs front line for part of the half: Roy (7-2), Henry (6-11) and Greg (6-10), plus 6-foot-8 Nikita in the backcourt. That's just not fair! I'd hate to be the other team.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Jul 12, 2008 14:42:14 GMT -5
Had to leave at halftime for another hard days work for housing. I'll leave the full recaps for others, but (1) Roy had a ridiculous dunk in transition thanks to a no look pass from Chris and (2) Chris nailed threes on three straight possessions and has to have 15 points or so at half. Monroe and Sims look good too. Tombs front line for part of the half: Roy (7-2), Henry (6-11) and Greg (6-10), plus 6-foot-8 Nikita in the backcourt. Substitute Dajuan or Vaughn for Roy and move Henry over in the regular season.
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hoyaLS05
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Post by hoyaLS05 on Jul 12, 2008 14:47:50 GMT -5
Had to leave at halftime for another hard days work for housing. I'll leave the full recaps for others, but (1) Roy had a ridiculous dunk in transition thanks to a no look pass from Chris and (2) Chris nailed threes on three straight possessions and has to have 15 points or so at half. Monroe and Sims look good too. Tombs front line for part of the half: Roy (7-2), Henry (6-11) and Greg (6-10), plus 6-foot-8 Nikita in the backcourt. Substitute Dajuan or Vaughn for Roy and move Henry over in the regular season. And someone for Nikita, who -- it bears mentioning -- scored off of a very pretty spin move. He missed his only three in the first half.
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Jul 12, 2008 14:48:14 GMT -5
Summers, Monroe, Freeman - Starters
Summers, Monroe, Vaughan -- 1st off the bench?
Summers, Sims, Monroe -- The TALL unit
Freeman, Monroe, Vaughan -- Give DaJuan a breather
Just a few example of the options available to JT3
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Jul 12, 2008 15:36:27 GMT -5
I thought Vaughn was taller than Summers for the Tall unit..
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Post by prhoya on Jul 12, 2008 15:38:19 GMT -5
Substitute Dajuan or Vaughn for Roy and move Henry over in the regular season. And someone for Nikita, who -- it bears mentioning -- scored off of a very pretty spin move. He missed his only three in the first half. I purposely left Nikita in at guard. That was his position before his sudden growth spurt in hs.
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Post by gujake on Jul 12, 2008 17:14:24 GMT -5
Some initial impressions from today:
- Monroe: He's certainly a good player, and he will certainly play a large role on this team. He won't be a bust. BUT, he doesn't have the kinds of skills I would expect from a consensus #1. He seems to do everything decently well, but not great. He looks like an ok ball handler, he has ok post moves, he has an ok stroke for a big man, but I would not be comfortable with him shooting jumpers. As of now, you can count me on the "he looks lazy out there" side. I don't know. I need to see more from him. He has the tools to develop if he puts the effort in.
- Sims: Very impressed with him. He just seems very comfortable out there, not like a freshman at all. Plays defense and rebounds very well, though I would be concerned with his D against big, banging centers like D. Blair, for example. Made some great interior passes today. Has very good vision. As others have said, he has great range. Does a great job getting post position, but I have only seen him take turnaround jumpers after establishing himself. If he develops a back-to-the-basket game, watch out. He and Monroe will work great together on the blocks.
- Clark: Didn't get to see a ton from him, but he will contribute this year, no doubt. Not sure about how good of a shooter he is yet, but I think he will work great within our offensive system. Has a knack for knowing how to get to open spaces, and being in the right place at the right time. I think his defense is not quite as good as some have speculated, but it is definitely above average.
- Vaughn: Well, if everybody thinks he had a better week last week, I am very happy to hear that. He is exactly the kind of player we need to get 15-20 mins or so at the 4/5. A real workhorse. His post moves seem like they are just a tad rushed. I think he is very close to having a solid post game.
- Austin: Did a lot of ball handling today, and looked terrific doing it. Was also much more of a floor leader than I have seen from him, setting up pick and rolls with Vaughn a number of times. Not fat.
- Chris: Filled the stat sheet I'm sure, and had a good game overall. But there are always a few occasions when I am stuck thinking what the heck is he trying to do right there. That's what happens when you go 100% all the time, but Chris needs to learn to pick his spots better. Still too many turnovers and forced shots.
- Nikita: He is better. His ball handling has improved, and he looks more comfortable on both offense and defense. I don't think there will be room for him to get PT unless somebody gets hurt, but I wouldn't be terribly worried if we needed to call on him.
- As others have said, we will run much more.
- I don't think it is a lock that Monroe starts over Sims at all.
I'll post some more thoughts after tomorrow.
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hoyaLS05
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Post by hoyaLS05 on Jul 12, 2008 17:50:11 GMT -5
- I don't think it is a lock that Monroe starts over Sims at all. I don't know if Sims has the body to start. While I've been incredibly impressed by him in Kenner League play, I can't help but wonder if he can really bang enough to be a viable starter. Say what you want about Monroe so far, but he does seem to have a body that is better suited for Big East physicality.
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hoyaboy1
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Jul 12, 2008 18:29:02 GMT -5
I don't think Monroe is lazy so much as not quite as explosive as people expect him to be.
One thing I noticed today was that he has a tendency to go to two-handed jumpers off his post moves, and a lot of times ends up leaning as well - that makes his shot easy to block or alter. Seems like he'd be a lot better off going to a hook.
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