FormerHoya
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Post by FormerHoya on Jul 8, 2008 18:46:20 GMT -5
Does anyone know what the revised schedule is for Sunday? Is it true that neither Tombs nor Clyde's will be playing? Oh: Hi everyone, this is my first post. Been reading these boards for years and I am consistently impressed by the insightful analysis that so many here contribute. I'll try to keep up Suck up. Also, please note, these boards are not for insightful analysis, but rather snark and p1ssing matches about who is the bigger/better fan. Welcome.
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jgalt
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Post by jgalt on Jul 8, 2008 18:46:48 GMT -5
I was at Yates today and saw some of the players coming out of a lifting session (insert obligatory remarks about me stalking players...ok moving on). It was Greg, Chris, Austin, Omar, Nikita, and-- Bryon. Is Bryon playing on a KL team? Im guessing he will be back on the team as there are still open roster spots.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Jul 9, 2008 11:11:45 GMT -5
welcome aboard, oncea!
Thanks for the analsyses and thoughts from Kenner all! PushyGuyFanClub, let me know next time you go to a game; I might be able to join.
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Post by ohiohoya99 on Jul 9, 2008 11:28:23 GMT -5
Is Bryon playing on a KL team? Im guessing he will be back on the team as there are still open roster spots. Bryon is on a KL team. I can't remember which one it is, but it is one of the teams that played before the Clyde's game this past Sunday afternoon.
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idhoya
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Post by idhoya on Jul 9, 2008 11:36:13 GMT -5
Has oncea read DFW's "50 Greatest Hoyas" diatribe? Ban him/her tell it is thoroughly digested!
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jgalt
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Post by jgalt on Jul 9, 2008 12:22:04 GMT -5
thanks ohio
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amc
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Post by amc on Jul 9, 2008 13:13:26 GMT -5
bryon was wearing gold on sunday - not sure which one that is, but they beat the team that wears silver.
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Post by hoyalawyer on Jul 9, 2008 19:46:12 GMT -5
bryon is on electrolite
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Post by onceahoya on Jul 9, 2008 20:40:35 GMT -5
Has oncea read DFW's "50 Greatest Hoyas" diatribe? Ban him/her tell it is thoroughly digested! That was the countdown on HoyaSaxa for the 100th right? Not gonna lie - lots of people I didn't know on that list. I was raised in ACC country so I wasn't aware in my formative years that other conferences actually existed. But I did have student season tickets for four years of Esherick. I hit the ground running. Hope to catch some KL play this weekend. From the details posted here it sounds like Vaughn will be fun to watch.
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royski
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Post by royski on Jul 9, 2008 21:03:15 GMT -5
Has oncea read DFW's "50 Greatest Hoyas" diatribe? Ban him/her tell it is thoroughly digested! That was the countdown on HoyaSaxa for the 100th right? Not gonna lie - lots of people I didn't know on that list. I was raised in ACC country so I wasn't aware in my formative years that other conferences actually existed. But I did have student season tickets for four years of Esherick. I hit the ground running. Hope to catch some KL play this weekend. From the details posted here it sounds like Vaughn will be fun to watch. We prefer "he who shall not be named" or "you know who", just for luck. Anyway, welcome to the board! ;D
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Post by Admin on Jul 9, 2008 21:52:35 GMT -5
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idhoya
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Post by idhoya on Jul 10, 2008 0:02:26 GMT -5
Read em both then
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 10, 2008 12:44:42 GMT -5
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idhoya
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Post by idhoya on Jul 10, 2008 13:16:00 GMT -5
Agreed. When I first read 'em I had no idea how good Duren or Derrick Jackson were.
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Jul 10, 2008 13:52:16 GMT -5
Agreed. When I first read 'em I had no idea how good Duren or Derrick Jackson were. Those guys were awesome. Glad you got the chance to read about them. Which brings to mind another misconception about JT and "Big Man U" -- JT had GREAT guards. This is an under-appreciated aspect of his teams and coaching. We had a string of them, starting with his very first recruiting class. Jonathan Smith was a 6' guard who was quick as hell and could shoot the lights out. No one like him had ever been seen at GU. Averaged 13.0 in his first year and 17.9 as a soph. Next up was Derrick Jackson, who arrived in Smith's junior year. Overlapping with Jackson was Duren. Then Sleepy Floyd. These guys were amazing. Duren and Floyd were All Americans. To this day, Duren and Floyd, alng with Derrick Jackson, are probably three of the four best guards in Hoya History -- with AI. Michael Jackson, Charles Smith, Fred Brown (pre-injury) Bryant and Tillmon. Wingate was more of a swingman, 2/3, than a straight guard, but was another stud. Lots of great, great guards.
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idhoya
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Post by idhoya on Jul 10, 2008 14:28:19 GMT -5
I think GU is getting back to that with the addition of Wright, Sapp and Clark. J Wally was a soli, very good player for GU, but I look at him as a stop gap or transitional player. Still very good though. The time is upon us when the Hoyas get both great bigs and guards. Really good all-around players.
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Jul 10, 2008 14:35:16 GMT -5
I think GU is getting back to that with the addition of Wright, Sapp and Clark. J Wally was a soli, very good player for GU, but I look at him as a stop gap or transitional player. Still very good though. The time is upon us when the Hoyas get both great bigs and guards. Really good all-around players. I was thinking exactly the same thing. Jon Wallace's career was one of the best at GU. He maximized the potential of his god-given gifts as much as anyone who ever wore the blue and gray. or white or Kente cloth or teal, or whatever other colors we adopt from time to time. There were some guys with incredible potential who didn't really pan out for various reasons. Perry Sheffey Long Brunner Ashanti had a good career -- not on the level of those guys we mentioned earlier Sapp is in the midst of a good career. But guys like Wright, Clark, maybe Freeman - they could be VERY good Hoyas... but they haven't done it yet. I think we are approaching the overall team athleticism the Hoyas had in the '80s, but adding more skill at the fundamentals and far more sophisticated offensive coaching.
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Jul 10, 2008 14:38:56 GMT -5
One more thing, we (myself included) keep thinking in more or less traditional ways about positions. A big, defensive oriented center. A PF with a big butt who muscles around the basket, a PG who runs the show, etc.
But JT3 has been a lot more flexible with how he uses guys -- the guards are often interchangeable, the C comes out to the perimeter on D, etc. And now his entire roster is filled with his guys, and getting better.
We may see a significantly different offense and defense with the group of really skilled, quick and athletic guys at every position. That could cause us to rethink a lot of our own assumptions on team make up and the individual contributions of some of these guys.
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idhoya
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Post by idhoya on Jul 10, 2008 14:46:11 GMT -5
I would love to see the '84 semi-final vs. Louisville. I think i've only seen it once and they never show it on ESPN Classic. Defensive battle I know. Anybody have it DVR'd or Tivo'd?
Long and Brunner ran themselves outta GU; in Sheffey's case he "drove" himself out and down Sherriff Rd at about 90 MPH, but I digress.
Wingate had the quickest firststep I've ever seen not named MJ or Worthy.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 10, 2008 18:53:53 GMT -5
I would love to see the '84 semi-final vs. Louisville. I think i've only seen it once and they never show it on ESPN Classic. Defensive battle I know. Anybody have it DVR'd or Tivo'd? Videotape was all that was available in 1984. Somebody has to have it somewhere... I have the final... but on Betamax.
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