vcjack
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Post by vcjack on Jun 10, 2008 16:00:35 GMT -5
kg, why the malice towards Italy? During the game, I kept making jokes about what a sissy Totti is to the family I'm living with who are Romans. It was a good match, Italy definitely had some opportunities to get back in it, but the Netherlands was definitely the better team yesterday. Now if Totti wasn't such a sissy... I watched the three red card game from a bar in Florence, that was enough to make me Editeded off at the Azzuri (even though Italian fans didn't really give me anything over it, in fact they were really appathetic about the WC until the quarterfinals)
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kghoya
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Post by kghoya on Jun 10, 2008 20:03:04 GMT -5
how about the 2nd goal against the greeks???
you don't see that everyday
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jun 11, 2008 9:31:26 GMT -5
seeing as a lot of the players on national teams these days come from other country I say the US goes out and finds a good striker to nationalize.
Lets go Czechs today! Of course being at work i wait till i get home to watch the games on the DVR so i won't find out till later tonight, but kick some Portuguese but today.
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Post by HometownHoya on Jun 11, 2008 10:55:58 GMT -5
I always wondered that, why don't we have better players that are nationalizing for us. Also, I forgot where I read it, but someone (might have been Andy Gray) was saying that US is gaining a better world reputation but needs to have more players go overseas for club play, I think that is a great point and our players need more exposure to the international styles of play.
Boo the Czechs, go Portugal!!!
Half-time Edit: 1 - 1 ; Both teams are looking good, Renaldo has been pretty quiet other then one great shot that was saved by an equally great save by Cech and a nice looking free kick at the end of the half. The Portugal defense is doing pretty good on the Czech attack, especially since they have been defending almost non-stop against the Czech attack. The Czech goal was off a header from a corner and the Portugal goal was nearly stopped by a great effort from Cech.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jun 11, 2008 19:25:54 GMT -5
Editeders oh well so close that 3rd goal was so cheap. They got some lucky bounces on the first one as well. didn't get it done today but we looked good. We should beat turkey. Have to watch the turkey swiss game to see what we have to do.
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Post by njhoya06 on Jun 11, 2008 19:39:06 GMT -5
Editeders oh well so close that 3rd goal was so cheap. They got some lucky bounces on the first one as well. didn't get it done today but we looked good. We should beat turkey. Have to watch the turkey swiss game to see what we have to do. Don't let the puddles distract you.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jun 12, 2008 8:46:12 GMT -5
stupid turks had to pull a win out of their asses. now were tied perfectly will the major tie breakers. so if the two teams tie on sunday we go to pks. Let's hope it doesn't come to that, but with cech i'd still be pretty confident.
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theexorcist
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Post by theexorcist on Jun 12, 2008 8:50:45 GMT -5
I always wondered that, why don't we have better players that are nationalizing for us. Also, I forgot where I read it, but someone (might have been Andy Gray) was saying that US is gaining a better world reputation but needs to have more players go overseas for club play, I think that is a great point and our players need more exposure to the international styles of play. (SNIP) This was basically the conclusion of the last World Cup - players who were in MLS simply weren't being challenged and developing as much as they should be as those in European leagues.
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Post by HometownHoya on Jun 12, 2008 10:13:50 GMT -5
Two good games today, I hope that Germany beats Croatia, German midfield should be able to control the ball and their defense should be able to stop the fairly weak Croat (is that right?) attack. The Austria vs. Poland game will also be good, although not quite as good. Hopefully Austria will be able to pull out the win, but I doubt it
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Post by thornski on Jun 12, 2008 12:56:58 GMT -5
Well there's your first real huge upset of the tournament (don't really consider the Netherlands-Italy game a big upset - the lopsided nature of it maybe, but not the result in itself)
Now all of a sudden, Germany's next game against Austria becomes huge. And even if Germany does win, looks as though they'll be set up to play Portugal in the quarterfinals.
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kghoya
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Post by kghoya on Jun 12, 2008 13:01:57 GMT -5
I always wondered that, why don't we have better players that are nationalizing for us. Also, I forgot where I read it, but someone (might have been Andy Gray) was saying that US is gaining a better world reputation but needs to have more players go overseas for club play, I think that is a great point and our players need more exposure to the international styles of play. (SNIP) This was basically the conclusion of the last World Cup - players who were in MLS simply weren't being challenged and developing as much as they should be as those in European leagues. i think a much bigger problem was the loyalty to older players...soccer is a young mans game...old school veterans dont help that much when you have to run for 90 minutes eddie pope is probably the best defender the us has ever put out and he never left the states...compare that to onyewu or bocanegra who have been playing over in europe forever...they suck its just not as easy as saying players need to leave
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jun 13, 2008 8:51:42 GMT -5
wow i'm so glad croatia beat germany. If the czechs get past the turks we'll face the croats in stead of the krauts.
I didn't watch the austria poland game, was the PK legitimate?
Who do people have today? I'm hoping italy bounces back and beats france. I'm leaving for italy next week and would like them to still be in the tournament while i'm there. I think netherlands will keep on their roll.
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kghoya
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Post by kghoya on Jun 13, 2008 10:26:42 GMT -5
italy doesnt play france today...holland does
i thought yesterdays pk was NOT legit
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moe09
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Post by moe09 on Jun 13, 2008 11:50:14 GMT -5
No, Italy already played the Netherlands (Holland is actually not a country... it's a region in the Netherlands, although I can understand why you wouldn't want to be called the "Netherlands," of course, here in Europe, I have met people from there who have referred to it as Holland), they play Romania.
According to the Italian announcers, Italy just got ripped off on another offsides on a goal, as they were onsides, I'm waiting to see a better replay.
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moe09
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Post by moe09 on Jun 13, 2008 11:57:03 GMT -5
Yeah, was definitely onsides.
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kghoya
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Post by kghoya on Jun 13, 2008 12:19:41 GMT -5
No, Italy already played the Netherlands (Holland is actually not a country... it's a region in the Netherlands, although I can understand why you wouldn't want to be called the "Netherlands," of course, here in Europe, I have met people from there who have referred to it as Holland), they play Romania. According to the Italian announcers, Italy just got ripped off on another offsides on a goal, as they were onsides, I'm waiting to see a better replay. yeah i know who plays italy doesnt play france...holland does...as in holland plays france where was the disconnect?
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moe09
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Post by moe09 on Jun 13, 2008 12:34:02 GMT -5
Apparently in my non-existent dyslexia. My bad.
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kghoya
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Post by kghoya on Jun 13, 2008 12:35:58 GMT -5
i watch the entire first half at lunch and by the time i come back ive missed 2 goals
perfect
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moe09
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Post by moe09 on Jun 13, 2008 12:40:29 GMT -5
Did you at least catch the pretty sick PK stop by Buffon?
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kghoya
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Post by kghoya on Jun 13, 2008 12:59:05 GMT -5
yeah
too bad he stopped it
i admit that it was a soft pk decision but there was some actual contact and the defender had his arm around the dude
the italians were really playing hard for a pk of their own after that...lots of going down easy inside the 18 from the boys in blue
lots of action for a 1-1 draw
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