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Post by mrsparkle12 on Sept 20, 2007 14:35:13 GMT -5
Please express your opposition to this clear insult to the university. If Terrell Owens was fined and suspended for a game for stomping on a team logo, the Voice's orange shoe stomping on the GU seal should at least be worthy of a letter. Show them this sh*t's unacceptable.
email: thevoice@georgetown.edu
phone: (202) 687-6780
mail: The Georgetown Voice Box 571066 Washington, D.C. 20057
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hoyaLS05
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Post by hoyaLS05 on Sept 20, 2007 14:54:15 GMT -5
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Post by strummer8526 on Sept 20, 2007 14:54:45 GMT -5
I think if Hoyatalk is going to organize around any major cause in the foreseeable future, it should be that picture.
Can we have a Homecoming sit-in on the 4th Floor of Leavey.
God, I hate the Voice.
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Post by morepunkthanyou on Sept 20, 2007 16:16:27 GMT -5
I wrote for both the Hoya and the Voice when I was an undergrad, and I have to say that the Hoya was much more friendly and willing to help me with stuff. I went in to get an article edited at the Voice, and when I walked in no one said hi to me. Then my editor got there and didn't acknowledge my presence for about 5 minutes. Then she took my piece and started reading it, then took a phone call, then talked to her friend in the office for 10 minutes, then told me my grammar was wrong when it wasn't, and then after she'd done her once-over of the piece, walked away and left me to walk out on my own. That article got published. Then I wrote another piece for them that was budgeted, submitted it, and never heard from them again. That article did not get published. I guess they didn't like the fact that I wanted to review an album that kinda sorta was considered "pop." Total losers.
Not that the Hoya is a shining beacon of journalistic integrity and standards, but I think you get what I mean.
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sead43
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Post by sead43 on Sept 20, 2007 17:05:21 GMT -5
Please express your opposition to this clear insult to the university. If Terrell Owens was fined and suspended for a game for stomping on a team logo, the Voice's orange shoe stomping on the GU seal should at least be worthy of a letter. Show them this sh*t's unacceptable. email: thevoice@georgetown.edu phone: (202) 687-6780 mail: The Georgetown Voice Box 571066 Washington, D.C. 20057 just sent my angry e-mail... |
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Post by BurleithBeast on Sept 20, 2007 17:45:08 GMT -5
A former Voice editor-in-chief is now senior editor at the Washington City Paper. Hmmm... Actually, he recently stepped down from the editing job to write the local politics column. And he's an infrequent HoyaTalk poster.... |
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Post by strummer8526 on Sept 20, 2007 18:26:06 GMT -5
I'll give some credit...I took a quick skim of the alcohol policy/constitutionality article, and it looks possibly decent. Every now and again, they'll drop something awesome, like that Margie Bryant spends more time working as a real estate agent than putting in serious effort for Auxiliary Services. I hate her too.
But for the most part, the Voice just likes to instigate too much.
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Post by mrsparkle12 on Sept 21, 2007 7:33:11 GMT -5
I'll give some credit...I took a quick skim of the alcohol policy/constitutionality article, and it looks possibly decent. Every now and again, they'll drop something awesome, like that Margie Bryant spends more time working as a real estate agent than putting in serious effort for Auxiliary Services. I hate her too. But for the most part, the Voice just likes to instigate too much. There's a difference between exposing administrative incompetency, of which there’s admittedly plenty of at Georgetown (and the reporting of which ultimately betters the university), and this nonsense. If their problem is with the administration, then show an orange foot stepping on Margie Bryant or President Degioia, for example; not the university seal, which is inflammatory and insulting to the entire community. God, I hope tuition dollars and alumni donations aren't funding that rag. |
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Post by bubbrubbhoya on Sept 21, 2007 7:44:01 GMT -5
A former Voice editor-in-chief is now senior editor at the Washington City Paper. Hmmm... Actually, he recently stepped down from the editing job to write the local politics column. And he's an infrequent HoyaTalk poster.... [/Attempting to take this thread to the next level] Wow, impressive resume. Who is it, Lichoya? |
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Post by strummer8526 on Sept 21, 2007 8:29:22 GMT -5
I'll give some credit...I took a quick skim of the alcohol policy/constitutionality article, and it looks possibly decent. Every now and again, they'll drop something awesome, like that Margie Bryant spends more time working as a real estate agent than putting in serious effort for Auxiliary Services. I hate her too. But for the most part, the Voice just likes to instigate too much. There's a difference between exposing administrative in competency, of which there’s admittedly plenty of at Georgetown (and the reporting of which ultimately betters the university), and this nonsense. If their problem is with the administration, then show an orange foot stepping on Margie Bryant or President Degioia, for example; not the university seal, which is inflammatory and insulting to the entire community. God, I hope tuition dollars and alumni donations aren't funding that circus. Oh I totally agree. If my information is correct, I believe that the media board funds the Voice. And the media board's primary source of money is the much more profitable "Hoya." While I don't know from personal experience, I believe that one of the reasons the Hoya wanted independence was so that it could keep its own money rather than fund the Voice. |
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Post by mrsparkle12 on Sept 21, 2007 8:50:32 GMT -5
There's a difference between exposing administrative in competency, of which there’s admittedly plenty of at Georgetown (and the reporting of which ultimately betters the university), and this nonsense. If their problem is with the administration, then show an orange foot stepping on Margie Bryant or President Degioia, for example; not the university seal, which is inflammatory and insulting to the entire community. God, I hope tuition dollars and alumni donations aren't funding that circus. Oh I totally agree. If my information is correct, I believe that the media board funds the Voice. And the media board's primary source of money is the much more profitable "Hoya." While I don't know from personal experience, I believe that one of the reasons the Hoya wanted independence was so that it could keep its own money rather than fund the Voice. My understanding is that The Hoya is financially independent from the University - i.e. all of their budget is funded through business opertations and advertising. They just maintain an office in Leavey and are the "Newspaper of Record," but it's not like the administration has any control over the editorial board or anything, or even finance their operation beyond supplying office space. If it's indeed true that The Hoya partially funds The Voice, and its web editor Terrell Owens, then my outrage is going to be taken to another level. |
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azarin
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Post by azarin on Sept 21, 2007 8:59:00 GMT -5
As far as I understand, the University does have a pretty strong grip on the Hoya's finances. I don't work for them, so maybe someone who does can explain, but that's my understanding.
Per freethehoya.com
As an independent newspaper, The Hoya will better provide for Georgetown University by improving the quality of news, increasing educational opportunities, adding prestige, and offering greater potential for community building while removing a significant legal liability from the university. Incorporation and independence will offer greater responsibility, accountability and flexibility for the editorial and business offices of The Hoya. By creating a newsroom and business office that remain independent of the university, The Hoya will be able not only to maintain full control over the day-to-day editorial and financial decisions of the newspaper but also set and maintain the long-term plans for the newspaper. By controlling its budget and resources, The Hoya will be better able to maintain its finances, enhance its editorial operations, prepare for future growth, and improve the educational goals of the newspaper.
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Post by strummer8526 on Sept 21, 2007 9:11:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I am almost positive that the University does have a firm grip on the Hoya's money. They don't touch the Ed Board, but they definitely control funding. I know this b/c I've heard many times that the Hoya would love to pay its writers and editors (thus GREATLY improving commitment and quality), but they can't b/c of this funding situation. Let me get some more info, and I'll post again, but this is something I hated for years.
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Post by schiavoed on Sept 21, 2007 9:14:45 GMT -5
Protesting the image on this website would likely be the most pointless act in history.
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hoyatables
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Post by hoyatables on Sept 21, 2007 9:19:06 GMT -5
Protesting the image on this website would likely be the most pointless act in history. This sentence makes no sense and is definitely the most pointless HoyaTalk post in history. |
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Post by schiavoed on Sept 21, 2007 9:36:48 GMT -5
Ha, how doesn't it make sense? You seem unhappy.
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Post by mrsparkle12 on Sept 21, 2007 10:03:53 GMT -5
Protesting the image on this website would likely be the most pointless act in history. It would be more pointless to not address the issue. Most people learn in kindergarten not to trample something of importance to others, let alone widely disseminate the depiction of it to others. The fact that it’s coming from within the Georgetown community, and this garbage is financed by student tuition and alumni donations is deplorable. If athletes are fined and suspended for stomping on a team logo, then The Voice should face similar repercussions. |
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Post by schiavoed on Sept 21, 2007 10:08:44 GMT -5
I walk on it every week. Should I be fined? I might see your point if the seal weren't located right in the middle of a walk way...a place where you're supposed to walk. Do you really think whoever had the idea of placing the seal there intended for everyone to walk around the seal when they put it in the middle of a confined walk way?
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hoyatables
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Post by hoyatables on Sept 21, 2007 10:22:59 GMT -5
Ha, how doesn't it make sense? You seem unhappy. You posted "Protesting the image on this website . . . ." This website? Which website? Hoyatalk? Are you suggesting we protest the ad banners at the top of the page? |
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Post by schiavoed on Sept 21, 2007 10:33:32 GMT -5
Please express your opposition to this clear insult to the university. If Terrell Owens was fined and suspended for a game for stomping on a team logo, the Voice's orange shoe stomping on the GU seal should at least be worthy of a letter. Show them this sh*t's unacceptable. email: thevoice@georgetown.edu phone: (202) 687-6780 mail: The Georgetown Voice Box 571066 Washington, D.C. 20057 That's the protest I'm referring to. Sorry for the confusion. |
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