SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 2, 2005 14:57:56 GMT -5
Maryland plays at Comcast.
I am certain that there is nothing wrong with coporate sponsorship. A corporate donation to a booster club is fine; why is this any different?
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Post by aleutianhoya on Mar 2, 2005 15:30:10 GMT -5
For a few reasons, it's essential to have Institutional Buy-In, rather than working outside the system. Even if NCAA rules would allow it, the likelihood of being able to raise the amount of money we're talking about to get the school's attention (eight figures, ultimately) through a grass roots effort is extremely low. I think this is true for a few reasons:
1) Think about who the most likely donors are for this project: primarily folks who already support the University and probably support the Athletics Department. Nearly all of the high-end donors (read: $1,000+) to Athletics give primarily for seat priority. A grass roots external effort wouldn't be able to give this same important stewardship; a plan involving the University would. 2) The entire University's Annual Fund (including Athletics, Law, Medical, Undergraduate Schools, etc.) currently raises $20,000,000, approx. And that includes a handful of seven-figure gifts. My point is that to raise the kind of money you're talking about, you need some big gifts, and even then, the possible amount is limited (Athletics only raised $2,000,000/year currently). Now: who in their right mind would give a large gift to an organization outside the scope of the University? You're going to want to be assured that your $50,000 isn't just going to sit in some escrow account, and you're going to want to be assured that the University will actually build the thing if it gets the money. 3) Maybe most importantly, the school has the organizational reach and resource that a grass roots effort wouldn't have. Addresses; budget to mail; gift processing; a non-profit charter; phone numbers; glossy brochures; knowledge of who the 'big time players' are; etc.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Mar 2, 2005 15:34:26 GMT -5
I don't mean to suggest that alumni and potential donors should sit back and do nothing. Rather, alumni need to make their opinions known. Let the Hoop Club know (and for crying out loud, if you don't make a nominal donation to the Hoop Club now but you want to lobby for a facility, you may as well join; money talks; and those who aren't donors simply won't be seen as credible). Let the Athletic Department know. Perhaps most importantly, let the Administration of the University know; I'm sure the Athletic Department would love to get this done, but maybe their hands are tied.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 2, 2005 15:53:00 GMT -5
For a few reasons, it's essential to have Institutional Buy-In, rather than working outside the system. Even if NCAA rules would allow it, the likelihood of being able to raise the amount of money we're talking about to get the school's attention (eight figures, ultimately) through a grass roots effort is extremely low. I think this is true for a few reasons: 1) Think about who the most likely donors are for this project: primarily folks who already support the University and probably support the Athletics Department. Nearly all of the high-end donors (read: $1,000+) to Athletics give primarily for seat priority. A grass roots external effort wouldn't be able to give this same important stewardship; a plan involving the University would. 2) The entire University's Annual Fund (including Athletics, Law, Medical, Undergraduate Schools, etc.) currently raises $20,000,000, approx. And that includes a handful of seven-figure gifts. My point is that to raise the kind of money you're talking about, you need some big gifts, and even then, the possible amount is limited (Athletics only raised $2,000,000/year currently). Now: who in their right mind would give a large gift to an organization outside the scope of the University? You're going to want to be assured that your $50,000 isn't just going to sit in some escrow account, and you're going to want to be assured that the University will actually build the thing if it gets the money. 3) Maybe most importantly, the school has the organizational reach and resource that a grass roots effort wouldn't have. Addresses; budget to mail; gift processing; a non-profit charter; phone numbers; glossy brochures; knowledge of who the 'big time players' are; etc. My comment mainly applied to corporate sponsorship, not necessarily without the school's knowledge. I would sell out in a second if we could break ground soon. As to a grass-roots effort, it can and has happened, but only as a "really-rich-but-still-grass-roots" kind of thing. All the members of this board would have to give $10,000 apiece to get noticed, and I'm counting all those folks with no posts, as well. But get ten to twenty of our wealthiest alumni together, and maybe you'd have something.
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Post by hoyahoyasaxa on Mar 2, 2005 15:58:59 GMT -5
The grassroots effort could be run over a long period, so it wouldn't necessarily have to be $10,000/person in one year. Anything would be faster than the university timeline.
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Post by Cambridge on Mar 2, 2005 16:00:05 GMT -5
What if it were proposed to the classes of the 1980s as their 25 year reunion gifts?
Of if you tapped into those from Georgetown's success in the 60s and 70s as part of their 50 and 40 year reunion drives?
Just a thought, but obviously one that the university is already eyeing for its academic goals...
But come on, if the class of 1984 can't be interested in donating, well then I don't know who is...
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Post by Boz on Mar 2, 2005 16:17:28 GMT -5
How about we kill two birds with one stone and put a retractable roof over this puppy?
Oh well, one can dream.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 2, 2005 21:22:50 GMT -5
Broadcast email to the student body tonight:
On Friday, March 4th, weather permitting, one lane of the West Leavey Roadway will be closed to traffic between 7:00 am and 12:00 noon. This lane closure will enable a crane to begin removing equipment from Harbin Field, in preparation for the construction of the new multi-sport facility. Flagmen will be posted to direct traffic. Please plan accordingly and allow extra time to get to your destination.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2005 21:29:59 GMT -5
I think MSF is slated to FULLY open for the Fall 2006 sports season... anyone care to confirm?
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Post by lichoya68 on Mar 2, 2005 23:27:36 GMT -5
buffalo hoya i think that maybe right but remember its a scaled down msf with only lights and seat and some other stuff .. the full model with offices etc was put on hole
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Post by lichoya68 on Mar 2, 2005 23:38:56 GMT -5
glad to see that people are calling this a convocation center ..with the john thompson court or whatever.. but that empazises the larger need that includes the athletic one.. also the science facilities were rated a year or two ago.. and were worse than local colleges.. some jr colleges... and alot of local high schools... lastly the neighbors and the parking and traffic are key critical issues.. how long they been trying to do the boat house.. and still there are law suits ...and they even sued i think after the performing arts center broke ground.. so money helps but this is more complicated than the discussion frequently seems like.. im the first one to say we need a convocation center .. but it aint so easy ... go hoyas beat providence... that wouldnot hurt the cause.. if we win and fill seats then that helps the case!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2005 23:42:12 GMT -5
buffalo hoya i think that maybe right but remember its a scaled down msf with only lights and seat and some other stuff .. the full model with offices etc was put on hole You're right, lic... however what WILL be built is the nice red brick structure located on GUHoyas.com. It is the newer model unlike the original one that was much larger due to the offices and such.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 3, 2005 10:22:50 GMT -5
Moving this thread to 37th & O - it has veered into that territory more than hoops discussion.
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Post by GUHoya07 on Mar 3, 2005 13:42:54 GMT -5
But this is an extremely important discussion that belongs on the most highly visited board here! We're talking bout a basketball arena, a basketball arena Why must you move it?
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Post by Hilltopper2000 on Mar 3, 2005 14:28:21 GMT -5
Does anyone know what the current construction on MSF entails? GUHoyas.com says that the first phase "will involve the construction of the artificial turf field, East Stands, North Lawn, and the permanent and temporary fencing." I take that to mean basically everything but the West Stands which incorporates offices and other athletic facilities will be constructed now, as was basically confirmed in the August edition of "Hoya Saxa." However, GU's BoD, according to the press release last semester, approved only "Phase One [which] includes a new subsurface and synthetic playing field that could be used for football, soccer and lacrosse; utility and infrastructure for future phases; and grading and minor work on the existing north retaining wall." That is, no East Stands (although the release simply says "includes" so that major detail may have been omitted). My concern is that this project is going to keep getting scaled down. I want to see the beautiful red brick design with those great archways. By building half now, at least they'll have to commit to that concept.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Mar 3, 2005 14:44:26 GMT -5
The project is at the scale indicated, but the construction is in phases, which will follow the successful fundraising for each of the three steps. (I'm not sure whether or not stands are included in phase 1).
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