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Post by strummer8526 on Dec 9, 2007 23:31:09 GMT -5
Wright will be fine. I just hope he attacks the rim and doesn't do that strange thing where he runs at an angle and throws a layup from about 7 feet out, trying to draw a foul. Maybe it worked somewhere, but it won't anymore.
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Post by Eurostar on Dec 10, 2007 0:00:18 GMT -5
Wright will be fine. I just hope he attacks the rim and doesn't do that strange thing where he runs at an angle and throws a layup from about 7 feet out, trying to draw a foul. Maybe it worked somewhere, but it won't anymore. hah i totally agree strummer... thats the perfect way to describe his move... it hasnt been very successful so far though because it seems like he just throws it at the backboard. this game i dont know if he took that 7 foot layup at all - he looked much more in control with the drives/dishes and on defense without being too aggressive and fouling. the more minutes he and freeman get especially early in the season, the faster these kinks will be worked out.
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Post by hoyalawyer on Dec 10, 2007 0:57:13 GMT -5
Freeman- will be one of the best guards to play here... NO OVERSTATEMENT Wright- will have a great career here (don't see him leaving early, though) Wattad- will be a solid 4 year player but never really see him being huge (think Better than Tyler, maybe as good as Rivers IF Omar improves handling and overall defense, although he looks good for limited action.) Nikita- Not Sold on him being anything other than a shooter. Not trying to downgrade him but I think Wattad will have a more productive career than Nikita based on his overall skill set and the fit to our system/ just my opinion. (Nikita, from what I saw this summer, is terribly SLOW on the defensive end, and I wouldn't trust him to dribble the ball anymore than Vern.)
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 10, 2007 1:31:57 GMT -5
Nikita- Not Sold on him being anything other than a shooter. Not trying to downgrade him but I think Wattad will have a more productive career than Nikita based on his overall skill set and the fit to our system/ just my opinion. (Nikita, from what I saw this summer, is terribly SLOW on the defensive end, and I wouldn't trust him to dribble the ball anymore than Vern.) I'm not sure what Nikita will end up becoming but, respectfully, your comment seems a tad questionable. Peope are always making these snap judgments of new players after seeing them one or a few times. I recall a guy a months ago who didn't think Austin was anything special based upon Austin's showing in his first Kenner League game this summer. Since Nikita was universally considered to have played better than Omad this summer and displayed a better all-around skill set according to those of us who caught games, I don't see how Omar now becomes the better prospect. Not saying that can't happen but what the heck do we base it on? His performance yesterday against Jacksonville? Some folks like to dismiss players early on in their careers. I recall those who did that to Roy, Jon, DaJuan (mostly because of his turnovers early last season) and Jeremiah. Many are still very dismissive of Vernon's prospects. But why are folks here so quick to judge and give their expert opinion concerning who will be contributers throughout the course of their careers?
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Post by AvantGuardHoya on Dec 10, 2007 5:53:31 GMT -5
It’s almost like folks hear about a kid’s HS accomplishments and expect that everything they heard will immediately manifest in their freshman season. It simply doesn’t work that way. Players have so much adjusting and adapting to do each time they arrive at a new level, as well as absorb and get integrated into a new system -- especially one a challenging as ours. It takes the overwhelming majority some time to shine. Plus, we’re talking about talent that isn’t even fully developed. What, freshmen are 19 or so? Is Roy or Jesse, say, the same player now that they were as freshmen? I think not, as their games have grown over the years. Patience is a blessing.
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Post by mapei on Dec 10, 2007 9:03:02 GMT -5
IN my case, I'm not judging, just having fun observing. I agree that Nikita looked good this summer - he may be out of luck for PT this year, but I hope we get to see a lot of him over time. I made the train wreck comment about Chris (noting that it works) because to me he *looks* like he is out of control. Obviously, he has tons of potential and shows he can be productive on both ends of the floor.
But Austin strikes me a potentially VERY good. We'll see - I'm not putting much stock in my evaluations, but I think it is fun to watch the new players and speculate.
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Post by Hoya Rich on Dec 10, 2007 14:29:07 GMT -5
Austin is so much more disciplined in what he does. I could not be more pleased. Chris plays like a train wreck, but it works much of the time. a train wreck? I think thats a little harsh I think he meant more like a runaway train?
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Post by kghoya on Dec 10, 2007 15:01:53 GMT -5
when does freeman replace ewing in the starting lineup?
id like to see ewing come off the bench and provide what he did towards the end of last season
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Post by SirSaxa on Dec 15, 2007 22:27:04 GMT -5
I am getting a feeling the great players of Hoya History may be welcoming a new member to the club... and soon! How about that kid -- Awesome Freeman!! I mean, Austin Freeman!!
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 15, 2007 22:34:27 GMT -5
I like that nickname. Awesome Freeman!
Looks like he could be a Top Ten Hoya when its all said and done.
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Post by youngjeezy on Dec 15, 2007 22:56:29 GMT -5
Austin is so much more disciplined in what he does. I could not be more pleased. Chris plays like a train wreck, but it works much of the time. a train wreck? I think thats a little harsh he's WAY more out of control than freeman - it seems like freeman understands the concept of the princeton offense just a little bit better at this point, while wright still thinks if a shot isn't open, no harm in driving into double-if-not-triple coverage. i know he's only a freshman, and i can't wait until he starts developing that patience, but he will NOT be able to drive against triple-coverage in big east play. he needs to break out of this habit sooner than later...
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Post by lichoya68 on Dec 16, 2007 1:41:44 GMT -5
wright is very talented needs to remember he cant do some of that stuff iwth the div one bigs inside but he will leard and austin or awesome freeman is THE REAL DEAL i said this summer hes a freaking tight end who can drain the three go to the hoop, and has a nose for the ball on the rebbies... see that shot tonite where he caught wrights miss and put it right up before the shot clock expired.. got a feeing this team is very very talented and deep.. go hoyas beat memphis your time is NOW
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Post by blueandgray on Dec 16, 2007 11:19:06 GMT -5
It took him until the 7th game of his Freshman season to lead the Hoyas in scoring, and in the 8th game he did it again!! Becoming the first Hoya to hit for 20 or more in a game this year with his total of 21 today.
This kid hit 7/9 shots including 2/3 Treys, and 5/5 FTs. On the season, Freeman is hitting 61% of his FGs And 43.5% of his Threes and 100% of his FTs
Remember that Majerus line about being a 180 shooter? In the first 8 games of his freshman year, Freeman is a 204.5 shooter!
OK -- it is only the "preseason", but still. The kid is a Freshman!
Looking forward to seeing our guys next Saturday v. Memphis. OLD POST BELOW------------------------------------ Mark this day, December 9th, 2007. Freeman shoots 6/7, including 2/2 from Deep, scores 15 points and leads the Hoyas. I wonder how many times Freeman will be our leading scorer before his days at GU are over. And running mate Chris Wright hit 6/8 and 2/4 to score 14. Yes, it was only Jacksonville. But this was a bit of a coming out party for these two. Lots more where that came from. Congratulations to our two young Hoyas and to the entire team! Freeman is awesome... great to see him get 21 points in 21 minutes on 11 field goal attempts. Let's not however forget Hibb's 23 against W&M... so he's the 2nd guy to break the 20 point scoring mark. I too agree that he will be a star. There is one play he made which particularly impressed me. Time was winding down on the shot clock and Chris spun his way into the lane and shot an off balance shot which came up short by about a foot. Austin came flying in from the baseline... tipped it to himself... and with the shot clock at 1.... hit a fall away from about 12 feet. He's a playmaker. He has the head and court awareness to know the shot clock, the instinct to tip it to himself, the strengh and athletictic ability to shoot falling away, and the stroke to swish it. BALLA!!!!
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Dec 16, 2007 11:55:37 GMT -5
It’s almost like folks hear about a kid’s HS accomplishments and expect that everything they heard will immediately manifest in their freshman season. Nah, couldn't be. Why would anyone NOT be sold on Wright? Kid looks great. He's better right now than I'd thought he'd be. He'd be starting for almost any other middling sort of team and all his flaws would be hidden by big scoring nights (cough, Reynolds, cough). But on this team there's no "volume shooting" night to have where he goes 6-16, heads to the line in garbage time and scores 23. No big deal.
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Post by mapei on Dec 16, 2007 12:00:30 GMT -5
That (edit: the play that blueandgray described) was the play of the game.
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Post by vcjack on Dec 16, 2007 12:03:00 GMT -5
What I really liked was how cooley he nailed those three free throws at the end of the first half, If a game is on the line he would be on the short list of who I want to be at the line
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Dec 16, 2007 17:00:17 GMT -5
I am sold on this kid. I think he will start before the end of the year with Ewing moving to the 6 man where I think he is honestly more effective.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Dec 16, 2007 17:13:31 GMT -5
Can someone tell me why we think Pat is "more effective" off the bench than starting?
The only difference I see between Pat this year and last year is his threes aren't falling. Do we really think that's due to his role as a starter and not just a bad start from outside? Because otherwise Pat seems to be exactly the same player starting as he is off the bench.
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Post by hazardhoya on Dec 16, 2007 17:15:36 GMT -5
coming off the bench gives someone the opportunity to bring new energy to the game, ewing is a energy/emotional player, it is a role that suits him and takes better advantage of the type of player he is
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Dec 16, 2007 17:21:52 GMT -5
That sounds all cool, but doesn't Austin do this too? I mean Austin's game is unlike anyone else we have on the floor and he is a natural scorer that can heat things up in a hurry.
Isn't that good off the bench as well? Why not start with a big, defensively imposing lineup and then bring in an offensive juggernaut later in the game.
I'm sure it would work either way and no matter what decision is made it will appear to be the "right" one since it's probably a wash. I just don't see any real benefit to Ewing coming off the bench versus Austin.
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