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Post by balla on Mar 7, 2008 21:52:45 GMT -5
Lets just agree to disagree about Braswell until the end of summer. We will have plenty of time to debate the Braswell question then...
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Post by prhoya on Mar 7, 2008 22:38:45 GMT -5
If balla has proven time and again his excessive inside knowledge as to recruits and their status, why wouldn't he now know of Braswell's academic one? Anyway, let's hope Braswell has turned that corner, becomes a Hoya, takes pride in keeping good grades at GU, takes advantage of what GU has to offer its students, and plays like Ewing/Graham ( ).
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Post by idhoya on Mar 7, 2008 22:55:18 GMT -5
balla,
could you compare his skill set to Sweets at the same stage? Keep in mind I've never seen the kid play.
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Post by balla on Mar 7, 2008 22:55:21 GMT -5
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Post by idhoya on Mar 7, 2008 22:58:10 GMT -5
congratz G-Money!
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Post by balla on Mar 7, 2008 22:59:02 GMT -5
balla, could you compare his skill set to Sweets at the same stage? Keep in mind I've never seen the kid play. They are really different types of players, so not the kind of players that you want to compare.
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Post by balla on Mar 7, 2008 23:04:03 GMT -5
So: Monroe = National Player of the year + State champion Braswell = Nation Prep Champion Sims = BCL POY+ conference and State runner-up(pulled groin) Clark = WCAC POY + conference and State runner-up Hollis = Mission League Champion
Future Hoyas = Winners.
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Post by idhoya on Mar 7, 2008 23:05:39 GMT -5
okay. who could you compare him too?
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Post by balla on Mar 7, 2008 23:09:32 GMT -5
okay. who could you compare him too? hmm. Nobody sticks out right now. Braswell is a great passer, rebounder, and has good post moves. But he is not real athletic, nor is he a great shooter, and struggles to finish.
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Post by balla on Mar 7, 2008 23:25:28 GMT -5
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Mar 7, 2008 23:43:37 GMT -5
Greg had 27 points (14 came in the 3rd quarter), and the game ended 75-51. Congrats to Greg.
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 7, 2008 23:43:39 GMT -5
2nd. I do not speculate, nor will I disclose where/who I get my info from. You can take it or leave it. It does not matter to me. Didn't ask you to disclose it, sir. We agree to disagree. As I pointed out I may be wrong on this issue but until that is proven I will give Braswell the benefit of the doubt. Never said otherwise. Instead I mentioned that III had to know of Bras' rep before he offered the guy a free ride. Not the point. hate to keep harping back on what I wrote previously but as I mentioned in a prior post we do things differently. I don't rip kids. I can mention when they aren't living up to expectation on the court or even if they are falling behind academically. But I will not rip them a new one on any message board. That's why I originally objected to your comments regarding Braswell because I felt you may have been going a bit overboard in your condemnation of his work habits. But AGAIN I can see its just a difference of opinion on how to go about mentioning these "flaws" on a message board community. You're more stern than me (possibly more honest I'll concede) on that front but I'm not holding it against you. Peace.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Mar 7, 2008 23:46:02 GMT -5
okay. who could you compare him too? hmm. Nobody sticks out right now. Braswell is a great passer, rebounder, and has good post moves. But he is not real athletic, nor is he a great shooter, and struggles to finish. Maybe a bit like Josh Boone. I agree - no easy comparisons.
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 7, 2008 23:56:31 GMT -5
If balla has proven time and again his excessive inside knowledge as to recruits and their status, why wouldn't he now know of Braswell's academic one? Because in my experience there has never been one single person (even people I had the highest regard for in terms of getting good information) who was anywhere close to being 100% right when it came to the art of predicting and/or figuring out a)what school a kid was going to choose b)how good a kid was going to be c)if a kid was going to make the grade and d)how a kid would do academically in college. Balla is arguably the closest to perfection on these boards when it comes to giving us insight and the inside scoop but I don't think he'll feel slighted if I suggest not even he can bat 1.000 on all these topics. Plus I'm a sucker I suppose for giving kids the benefit of a doubt on these issues and proving other people wrong. Roy Hibbert was never an academic question mark like Braswell, but I took hell from some folks on the Internet who claimed he was a sorry player who never would amount to anything. I gave Jeff the benefit of a doubt too when one person swore up and down he was not serious about his academics.
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 7, 2008 23:59:33 GMT -5
Good find. Congrats indeed.
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Post by balla on Mar 8, 2008 0:00:43 GMT -5
2nd. I do not speculate, nor will I disclose where/who I get my info from. You can take it or leave it. It does not matter to me. Didn't ask you to disclose it, sir. We agree to disagree. As I pointed out I may be wrong on this issue but until that is proven I will give Braswell the benefit of the doubt. Never said otherwise. Instead I mentioned that III had to know of Bras' rep before he offered the guy a free ride. Not the point. hate to keep harping back on what I wrote previously but as I mentioned in a prior post we do things differently. I don't rip kids. I can mention when they aren't living up to expectation on the court or even if they are falling behind academically. But I will not rip them a new one on any message board. That's why I originally objected to your comments regarding Braswell because I felt you may have been going a bit overboard in your condemnation of his work habits. But AGAIN I can see its just a difference of opinion on how to go about mentioning these "flaws" on a message board community. You're more stern than me (possibly more honest I'll concede) on that front but I'm not holding it against you. Peace. Fair enough MCI. I actually rarely rip a kid, because they are after all just kids. And most of the time, I will go after a poster that does rip a kid. I will admit that Braswell seriously irritates me. It is not a personal thing. It is a trust thing. When I hire an employee with questionable back ground or work habits, they understand that they are being given an opportunity. If they Edited it away, then that is on them. III is giving Braswell an opportunity. Last year Braswell was in the process of Editeding it away(he had a great free agent year, then tanked after signing a new contract). His mom made a great move by sending him to Hargrave. I hope he succeeds, because nobody wants to see Hoyas(kids) succeed more than I do. One never wants to look back in life and say what if... Aren't you a Dematha guy ;D
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 8, 2008 0:20:58 GMT -5
I am a DeMatha guy but Braswell did not play for the team long enough for it to matter. Trust me I was a little upset that he was not around for those big games against teams (like OJ Mayo's squad) that the Stags could have used his help playing against. I don't consider him a true DeMatha guy.
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Post by idhoya on Mar 8, 2008 1:33:50 GMT -5
Brian Shorter perhaps? I'm probably reachin'.
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Post by RDF on Mar 8, 2008 3:08:56 GMT -5
Greg had 27 points (14 came in the 3rd quarter), and the game ended 75-51. Congrats to Greg. In addition to the 27pts, Greg also pulled down 13 boards, had 5 blocks, 3 steals, and a couple assists. Nice way to end the HS career Greg!!! Helen Cox went undefeated in state of Louisiana. They also won their school's first title in any sport. Greg and his teammates/coaches put them in record books. There was a touching story last Sunday about a Cox player's little brother who was shot and died earlier this season. Coach Mouzon talked about how tough it was on everyone and it mentioned how once the fans in Portland, OR found out why Greg and 2 others weren't there--they cheered on Helen Cox team and "adpoted" them. The players returned, won a consolation game the final day of tournament, and got a standing ovation--and sportsmanship trophy. Really a great story. Also mentioned how Cox players were in a daze and didn't even feel like playing--and they found out this news at the City of Palms tournament--and then had to go cross country to Portland so it was a trying time for young men and really this was a tough season off the court--so I'm sure this is best way they can pay tribute to Justin Fairman's little brother and congrats!
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Post by RDF on Mar 8, 2008 3:47:43 GMT -5
Forgot to mention--I came across some outstanding new footage of Monroe when I was looking for scores/updates on Hargrave/Braswell--and it was from Nike Camp this past Summer, and combined with a few clips of him in early season HS games. Went for about 3 minutes and his post moves were outstanding--some nice finishes at the rim--both in transition and halfcourt.
Here's the crappy thing--I can't remember what name of site was--think it might have been "Hoopsreport.com" or something like that. I'll try and find it and link it if nobody else gets it before I do. Also had highlights of DaShonte Riley, Hollis Thompson and other highly noted recruits who are not going to/considering Hoyas. The site had class rankings from '07-'10 and if you clicked on player profile--you'd see the highlights listed below. Not every player had highlights--but a lot of kids we've discussed did.
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