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Post by balla on Mar 2, 2008 18:50:44 GMT -5
Izzo has been at MSU forever, and not developed one good bigman(you can have Zach Randolph). Heck, he has not developed squat for NBA players.
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Post by balla on Mar 2, 2008 23:01:36 GMT -5
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Post by RDF on Mar 3, 2008 23:58:10 GMT -5
Congrats to Greg Monroe on making the state title game! He scored 12 of his game high 19 pts in the 4th quarter as he led Cox from 15 down to a 62-59 victory tonight in the State Semis. Greg had 19, 10 boards, and 3 steals and Cox will play O'Perry Walker in the 4A Final on Friday Night. Awesome achievement for Greg as the team he played tonight has 2 kids going to Ole Miss and was quietly considered the "Favorite" as they upset the #1 seed--Greg and Helen Cox were #2 seed in their classification. I am not certain on this--but I believe O'Perry Walker is the former HS of former Hoya Jonathan Edwards.
Henry Sims and Chris Braswell have games tomorrow in the BCL Playoffs and the National Prep Invitational.
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 4, 2008 0:07:20 GMT -5
When I went to the Times-Picayune site to check on this game earlier, they had their 3rd quarter update (which they've since removed) which had written off Cox and said that it was a sad way to end to Monroe's great HS career. Looks like Monroe has a little of that grit and poise that the Hoyas have become known for! Here's the blog post on the game's final: blog.nola.com/prepsports/2008/03/carroll_leads_cox_149_after_fi.html
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Post by RDF on Mar 4, 2008 1:16:49 GMT -5
Henry Sims and Mt. St. Joes won their opening game of the BCL Playoffs tonight. Mistakenly thought they started tomorrow-but MSJ plays Loyola tomorrow in Semis and would face either St. Frances (Sean Mosely) or Towson Catholic--who beat MSJ last week in the League Playoffs. No stat line yet on Henry did-will get that up when I get the info.
DaShonte Riley and Detroit Country Day advanced to play on Wednesday. If they win that game--his next game would be next week--either Tuesday or Wednesday so I wouldn't see any problems in him making it to DC if he has plans on that this upcoming weekend.
Riley had 16 pts, 19 rebounds, and 5 blocks in win over Detroit Renaissance--his team plays tonight and if they win--they play next Tuesday.
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Post by balla on Mar 4, 2008 1:20:05 GMT -5
When I went to the Times-Picayune site to check on this game earlier, they had their 3rd quarter update (which they've since removed) which had written off Cox and said that it was a sad way to end to Monroe's great HS career. Looks like Monroe has a little of that grit and poise that the Hoyas have become known for! Here's the blog post on the game's final: blog.nola.com/prepsports/2008/03/carroll_leads_cox_149_after_fi.htmlI guess sun does HATE to lose
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Post by RDF on Mar 4, 2008 14:14:18 GMT -5
Henry had 11 pts and 6 blocks in "limited minutes" as MSJ won by 30 last night.
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Post by RDF on Mar 5, 2008 0:55:07 GMT -5
Henry Sims and Mt. St. Joes advanced to Championship game of BCL (Baltimore Catholic League). No stats yet--but another blowout win for the Gaels. In the title game, Sims and company will see Terp recruit Sean Mosely for the 3rd time with teams splitting two games this year. Co-Players of year go at it for the title (Sims and Mosely). Sims had 16 pts to lead MSJ last night.
Congrats to Greg Monroe who was named to the 10 man squad who will represent the United States at the Nike Hoop Summit.
Still waiting to hear how Chris Braswell and Hargrave did tonight in the opening game of the National Prep Championships. They faced Devin Ebanks and St. Thomas More tonight.
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Post by gsurus1 on Mar 5, 2008 7:04:13 GMT -5
RDF - Hargrave beat St. Thomas More by about 25 points. Braswell played well - I'd guess 12-15 points and around 15 rebounds. On the positive front he is far more physically fit than when I saw him play for Dematha last year, is a born rebounder, especially on the offensive end (I'd guess he got 10 offensive rebounds - several out of his space), gets off the floor very quickly (he had 3-4 blocked shots) and is a terrific passer for a big guy, with a really nice feel for the game (he led the fast break on one occasion and made the perfect pass to the wing for the layup). He was also clearly the leader of the team, very well-liked (I sat right behind the bench so could hear everything) and, as I've noticed before, a big +/- player (i.e., his teams seem to do their best when he is in the game - as was the case yesterday). He is also emotional, in a PE Jr. kind of way (screaming after he blocks a shot or makes a dunk), which is a good quality (although he did get a T for getting into a fight in the game). On the negative side, he still had big trouble finishing chippies around the basket (missed 3 wide open ones) - which I saw in the Dematha games as well (and is one reason his rebound total is so high - as he gets offensive rebounds off of a lot of his own misses), seemed to get winded quickly, didn't always run back hard on defense, had trouble keeping smaller guys in front of him on D, and didn't look very good at the foul line. All in all, though, more positives than negatives - and my guess is that if he plays 4 years at G-town he will end up as one of the top 10 rebounders of all time - his feel for rebounding, and ability to get up quickly, and several times, stands out. Having said all of this, the best player on his team was Dee Bost, the guard going to Mississippi State. He must have had 30 points. Roscoe Davis looked ok (athletic and coordinated for someone that tall - lots of potential - but weak and with an inconsistent motor). Ebanks is obviously extremely skilled - he is a great athlete and has a beautiful shot. Having said that, he rarely ventures into the paint. He reminded me of Donte Greene minus 3 inches - which is a big deal as he won't be able to get his shot off nearly as easily. He is a top 25 player, but not top 10. He also seemed like a very nice and humble kid from what I could see - which I found surprising. from what I've read I left at halftime of the next game (Brewster Academy vs. American Christian) - Brewster was running them out of the building, so I assume they will be playing Hargrave in the semis at 6 today (anyone in NY should try to get there - this is a great tournament). It will be interesting to see Braswell battle Negedu (the forward going to Arizona). He is an animal - super athletic and with a motor that won't quit. A little shorter than Blair on Pitt, but same idea - and more athletic. Given Braswell's less consistent motor it will be interesting to see how he matches up with him. The other fun of the evening was watching Bergeron, the American Christian Coach, bench Tyreke Evans for the last 10 minutes of the first half - and spend the entire time in his face screaming at him for "coasting" - which he clearly was (and right in front of Derek Kellogg, the Memphis assistant, who was standing on the baseline). No way Evans is one of the top couple of players in the country, he looked even worse than he did on ESPN recently and has, from what I could tell, a bad attitude.
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Post by Filo on Mar 5, 2008 9:00:14 GMT -5
RDF: Great write-up. Thanks.
I watched some of th St.Anthony's = American Christian game that I guess you are referrring to in regards to Evans. Although he is talented, I was not all that impressed either.
I think you talked about Cheek in the past. What do you think about his prospects and what teams he is interested in?
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Post by RDF on Mar 5, 2008 12:08:03 GMT -5
RDF - Hargrave beat St. Thomas More by about 25 points. Braswell played well - I'd guess 12-15 points and around 15 rebounds. On the positive front he is far more physically fit than when I saw him play for Dematha last year, is a born rebounder, especially on the offensive end (I'd guess he got 10 offensive rebounds - several out of his space), gets off the floor very quickly (he had 3-4 blocked shots) and is a terrific passer for a big guy, with a really nice feel for the game (he led the fast break on one occasion and made the perfect pass to the wing for the layup). He was also clearly the leader of the team, very well-liked (I sat right behind the bench so could hear everything) and, as I've noticed before, a big +/- player (i.e., his teams seem to do their best when he is in the game - as was the case yesterday). He is also emotional, in a PE Jr. kind of way (screaming after he blocks a shot or makes a dunk), which is a good quality (although he did get a T for getting into a fight in the game). On the negative side, he still had big trouble finishing chippies around the basket (missed 3 wide open ones) - which I saw in the Dematha games as well (and is one reason his rebound total is so high - as he gets offensive rebounds off of a lot of his own misses), seemed to get winded quickly, didn't always run back hard on defense, had trouble keeping smaller guys in front of him on D, and didn't look very good at the foul line. All in all, though, more positives than negatives - and my guess is that if he plays 4 years at G-town he will end up as one of the top 10 rebounders of all time - his feel for rebounding, and ability to get up quickly, and several times, stands out. Having said all of this, the best player on his team was Dee Bost, the guard going to Mississippi State. He must have had 30 points. Roscoe Davis looked ok (athletic and coordinated for someone that tall - lots of potential - but weak and with an inconsistent motor). Ebanks is obviously extremely skilled - he is a great athlete and has a beautiful shot. Having said that, he rarely ventures into the paint. He reminded me of Donte Greene minus 3 inches - which is a big deal as he won't be able to get his shot off nearly as easily. He is a top 25 player, but not top 10. He also seemed like a very nice and humble kid from what I could see - which I found surprising. from what I've read I left at halftime of the next game (Brewster Academy vs. American Christian) - Brewster was running them out of the building, so I assume they will be playing Hargrave in the semis at 6 today (anyone in NY should try to get there - this is a great tournament). It will be interesting to see Braswell battle Negedu (the forward going to Arizona). He is an animal - super athletic and with a motor that won't quit. A little shorter than Blair on Pitt, but same idea - and more athletic. Given Braswell's less consistent motor it will be interesting to see how he matches up with him. The other fun of the evening was watching Bergeron, the American Christian Coach, bench Tyreke Evans for the last 10 minutes of the first half - and spend the entire time in his face screaming at him for "coasting" - which he clearly was (and right in front of Derek Kellogg, the Memphis assistant, who was standing on the baseline). No way Evans is one of the top couple of players in the country, he looked even worse than he did on ESPN recently and has, from what I could tell, a bad attitude. Outstanding recap Gsurus1, thank you! 1. I am glad to hear Braswell is in better shape--that was my main concern seeing him at DeMatha on television--looked as if he was about 15 lbs overweight. Still had nose for boards though--which you saw. 2. Don't worry about the "coasting"--that is a problem that a lot of HS kids have--and it gets corrected quickly--they either learn or sit and watch with coaches and LEARN. 3. Braswell has seemed to get "up" for the big name opponents this year. He dominated Terrence "Fake Stoudemire" Jennings with 24 and 13 while Jennings had 3 pts and 4 boards. He'll be ready for the kid heading to Arizona. 4. Tyreke Evans is complete GARBAGE. I wouldn't want him on my health club team during open gym. The guy's got a rep for being a "Star" and I dont' see anything in his game that translates to next level. For a 6'4 kid--he can't shoot a lick. He takes stupid shots, and cherry picks for most of his hoops. He plays okay defense--but could be better seeing he's got long arms and enough quickness to disturb opposing guards. He's got a decent handle to his strong hand, but is weak going left and for a supposed top prospect to be that "one handed"-it's disturbing. Will say that I think Memphis is best fit for his "game" and they can develop what he does well-which is slash/drive. He can't shoot at all and his release is so gummed up he'll need at least 3 years in college to correct it in my opinion. One of those kids who is flashy and shines in pickup type of game-but even then needs 25-30 FGA's to get his 25-30 pts.
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Post by RDF on Mar 5, 2008 12:09:57 GMT -5
RDF: Great write-up. Thanks. I watched some of th St.Anthony's = American Christian game that I guess you are referrring to in regards to Evans. Although he is talented, I was not all that impressed either. I think you talked about Cheek in the past. What do you think about his prospects and what teams he is interested in? Gotta give the credit on Prep recap to Gsurus1--he did a fantastic job with that. Cheek is looking at Big East/ACC schools. I like his jumpshot a lot--pretty release and efficient shooter, but was surprised to how well he passed the ball. I think Hoyas will not be involved--but don't be surprised to see him in Big East--he'd be a nice player to get for any program.
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Post by Filo on Mar 5, 2008 12:52:16 GMT -5
Thanks, RDF. Sorry 'bout that Gsurus1 -- great recap! (thought RDF wrote it for some reason)
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Post by balla on Mar 5, 2008 13:55:17 GMT -5
Thanks Gsurus1. Well if Braswell still can't finish around the basket in HS, he will not get much playing time at Gtown. He has got to get his legs stronger and power through. It is good that he is now in better shape and showing good leadership. rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=782316
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Post by blueandgray on Mar 5, 2008 14:02:03 GMT -5
It'd be awesome if riley made it to the game saturday. Its going to be such an emotional environment... i can't see how any talented big man wouldn't want to be a HOYA!!! A front line of Riley, Monroe and Summers would be very, very strong. Then again, Sims might have something to say about that.
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Post by idhoya on Mar 5, 2008 14:27:57 GMT -5
don't forget V Mack and Bras
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Post by idhoya on Mar 5, 2008 14:30:57 GMT -5
The 'reke I met last summer was very approachable, humble and an overall nice kid. Considering all the hype this kid gets, he was more than gracious and not stuck up at all. His shot was sporadic though. In '06, he went head-to-head with Meanstreets w/Derrick Rose and Eric Gordon and matched them point for point. Stroked the J well and took it to the cup. Coastin has always been a problem; one that he has acknowledged in the past.
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Post by balla on Mar 5, 2008 17:46:53 GMT -5
well 'reke' has more problems these days than coasting... He was always a poormans Mayo to me anyway.
As for Dash Riley, Vern will be a SR when Riley is a FR. If Gtown gets Riley in 09, Gtown will not take a center in 2010. So there will be a lot of minutes for Riley as the only true center on the roster. Sims and Monroe can play multiple positions.
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Post by kchoya on Mar 5, 2008 17:55:47 GMT -5
It'd be awesome if riley made it to the game saturday. Its going to be such an emotional environment... i can't see how any talented big man wouldn't want to be a HOYA!!! A front line of Riley, Monroe and Summers would be very, very strong. Then again, Sims might have something to say about that. I agree. Sometimes i get worried about our front court once Roy leaves, but with Ticket, Monroe, Braswell and Sims next year, I think we'll be fine. It'll be a young front line, but oh so talented and fascinating to see how the offense runs with all these big guys to choose from.
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Post by idhoya on Mar 5, 2008 18:28:11 GMT -5
Some seem to think Henry will start over V Mack next year.
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