idhoya
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Post by idhoya on Mar 5, 2008 18:48:31 GMT -5
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MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 5, 2008 23:51:16 GMT -5
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balla
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Post by balla on Mar 6, 2008 0:12:30 GMT -5
Nice find MCI. Congrats to Monroe. Now he just needs to FINISH on Friday. They will have played 43 games, that is more than colleges.
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Mar 6, 2008 1:40:05 GMT -5
Henry Sims and Mt. Saint Joes lost tonight to Sean Mosely and St. Frances. Sean went off for 33 pts and won the season series 2 games to 1 with a distant opportunity to meet one last time at Alhambra Tournament. No word on Henry's stats. DaShonte Riley and Detroit Country Day advanced with a 2pt win tonight over Madison Heights. No stats available from that game right now. No word in Chris Braswell and Hargrave-(Rivals and Scout are doing an AWFUL job of covering a major event) but hopefully Gsurus1 will provide another great update tomorrow. If not--someone might have a score up--is it that hard for Rivals or Scout to do a damn update on a major tournament?
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balla
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Post by balla on Mar 6, 2008 2:42:51 GMT -5
Henry Sims and Mt. Saint Joes lost tonight to Sean Mosely and St. Frances. Sean went off for 33 pts and won the season series 2 games to 1 with a distant opportunity to meet one last time at Alhambra Tournament. No word on Henry's stats. DaShonte Riley and Detroit Country Day advanced with a 2pt win tonight over Madison Heights. No stats available from that game right now. No word in Chris Braswell and Hargrave-(Rivals and Scout are doing an AWFUL job of covering a major event) but hopefully Gsurus1 will provide another great update tomorrow. If not--someone might have a score up--is it that hard for Rivals or Scout to do a damn update on a major tournament? Who was guarding Mosley I hear that Brett Favre just had a bowel movement, so perhaps Rivals and Scout were busy covering that Oh wait, espn has the exclusive. I have to go help Suzanne count caucus numbers in Texas, so I will be occupied. My man Larry King is not getting any younger, so I volunteered my services ;D
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HoyaFanNY
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Mar 6, 2008 6:50:34 GMT -5
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idhoya
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Post by idhoya on Mar 6, 2008 12:00:49 GMT -5
Maybe Henry could take some pain killers like Brett.
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Post by RDF on Mar 6, 2008 13:07:15 GMT -5
Braswell and Hargrave won last night over Brewster Academy and will now play Findlay Prep (NV) for the championship. Both teams are undefeated on the season.
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balla
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Post by balla on Mar 6, 2008 14:21:33 GMT -5
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Post by balla on Mar 6, 2008 14:22:50 GMT -5
Braswell and Hargrave won last night over Brewster Academy and will now play Findlay Prep (NV) for the championship. Both teams are undefeated on the season. Any word on how Braswell played?
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Post by RDF on Mar 7, 2008 1:48:14 GMT -5
No word on Braswell's performances in any of the last two games BUT...... Hargrave finished with an UNDEFEATED RECORD as they beat previously unbeaten Findlay Prep by a score of 75-73. Congrats to Hargrave and Chris Braswell on quite an accomplishment at any level. Hoping for some sort of recap of the last two games--but to this point--it's only been written up in a manner that mentions the backcourt of Hargrave and the opposing teams' players. No statistical mention of Chris the past two days but he did get the game saving blocked shot to clinch the championship/undefeated season. Again, congrats to Chris and wish someone would have gotten off their lazy ass at Rivals/Scout to cover a major event--with numerous top ranked players/signed players. But why do that, when you can wax poetic about potential Duke/UNC recruits?
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balla
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Post by balla on Mar 7, 2008 17:04:21 GMT -5
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 7, 2008 17:18:55 GMT -5
Chris has been really under the radar because he's not Greg Monroe, he's not local anymore, and he's on a stacked prep team that nobody covers, so I think sometimes we forget he was a Top 20 player before he got hurt.
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balla
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Post by balla on Mar 7, 2008 18:59:03 GMT -5
Chris has been really under the radar because he's not Greg Monroe, he's not local anymore, and he's on a stacked prep team that nobody covers, so I think sometimes we forget he was a Top 20 player before he got hurt. True. I also think that a lot of it has to do with: A. None of us know of Braswell will qualify for Gtown, and won't know until summer. B. A lot of us are disappointed in how Braswell fell-off after committing. He flat out got lazy and stopped applying himself in school and on the court. Clark and Hollis committed early, and they continued to work their butts off to be the best student-athletes that they can be. Heck, Hollis has a 4.2 gpa at Loyola. I hope Braswell proves a lot of us wrong, but right now he looks like he will just count against the cap for 4 years. Take a kid like Mike Dunigan that is a better player and excellent student. Dunigan would have run from Chi-Town to the Hilltop to be a Hoya, but Braswell already had his schollie. By all indications Braswell is doing everything correct at Hargrave to qualify and become a better player. So we will see...
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 7, 2008 19:09:15 GMT -5
Braswell did get hurt.
I'm not going to comment on work ethic because I think it is pretty hard to really evaluate that from a distance, but he's obviously had a pretty good year at Hargrave. I think Braswell will be better than people think.
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MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 7, 2008 19:55:17 GMT -5
Geez, balla, why stop at just throwing Braswell under the bus? Spit on his gave why you're at it. Look, everyone knows you're passionate about Hoya hoops and your inside info is invaluable here. But come on, man, give the kid a break. He committed to Gtown when he did not have to. For that I'm loyal to him. I'm loyal to any Hoya player unless they commit some criminal act or act deplorable on the floor or off the court. And I will believe in Braswell and root him on rather than pine for some dude who chose freakin' Oregon over Gtown. You claim Dunigan would have been a Hoya if it wasn't for Braswell. That's not what I heard. I was informed that Dunigan allowed himself to be swayed by World Wide Wes who steered Dunigan to Oregon. Any kid who is influenced by such characters loses my respect (yeah, like that matters. ). Let Dunigan squander his years at Oregon. Braswell was at least intelligent enough to make the better choice. And while Bras may have some growing up and maturing to do (always has been the case) at least he agreed to go to Hargrave and put in some hard work on and off the court. Also can people stop stating as fact that Braswell is going to be a late academic qualifier? I don't think anyone here have any inside info on his grades or his progression in the classroom.
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balla
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Post by balla on Mar 7, 2008 20:38:06 GMT -5
Geez, balla, why stop at just throwing Braswell under the bus? Spit on his gave why you're at it. Look, everyone knows you're passionate about Hoya hoops and your inside info is invaluable here. But come on, man, give the kid a break. He committed to Gtown when he did not have to. For that I'm loyal to him. I'm loyal to any Hoya player unless they commit some criminal act or act deplorable on the floor or off the court. And I will believe in Braswell and root him on rather than pine for some dude who chose freakin' Oregon over Gtown. You claim Dunigan would have been a Hoya if it wasn't for Braswell. That's not what I heard. I was informed that Dunigan allowed himself to be swayed by World Wide Wes who steered Dunigan to Oregon. Any kid who is influenced by such characters loses my respect (yeah, like that matters. ). Let Dunigan squander his years at Oregon. Braswell was at least intelligent enough to make the better choice. And while Bras may have some growing up and maturing to do (always has been the case) at least he agreed to go to Hargrave and put in some hard work on and off the court. Also can people stop stating as fact that Braswell is going to be a late academic qualifier? I don't think anyone here have any inside info on his grades or his progression in the classroom. 1st. Dunigan. He chose Oregon, because of the numbers at Gtown. I know Wes. WWW was not going to get in the way of Gtown. Wes ain't dumb. Wes is tight with Riley also, and Wes will not get in the way of any kid that wants to be a Hoya. 2nd. Yes some of us do have inside knowledge of his academic status, and that is why I said it will be uncertain till summer. 3rd. JT3 does not throw schollies out anyone. So it is a two way street. Getting a college schollie is a privilege and not a right(particularly to Gtown). Getting hurt is understandable. Not going to class and doing your homework, is not. Missing lay-ups understandable, not hustling past half-court is not. I am not a myopic, I tell it like it is good or bad. Most of the kids I simply offer constructive criticism( improving shooting mechanics or getting stronger...). But I have to call a spade a spade. I understand that you like the kid, but facts are facts. I hope he becomes a great Hoya, and not a cautionary tale for taking early commits. It is nothing personal. So we will see.
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idhoya
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Post by idhoya on Mar 7, 2008 20:57:09 GMT -5
Mom FoS too. It did come down to Oregon and GU.
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MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 7, 2008 21:12:13 GMT -5
1st. Dunigan. He chose Oregon, because of the numbers at Gtown. I know Wes. WWW was not going to get in the way of Gtown. Wes ain't dumb. Wes is tight with Riley also, and Wes will not get in the way of any kid that wants to be a Hoya. Dunigan made his decision for Oregon way before Monroe made his decision. Obviously if guys like Gilchrist were willing to lean towards Gtown up until Monroe committed, why not Dunigan? And if I'm not mistaken III did offer him a scholarship. I think that says it all right there. III wanted him even if he brought in Monroe too. Also I never stated Wes tried to stop Dunigan from going to Gtown. My point is that Dunigan allowed himself to be swayed by Wes in the first place. The Oregon trip and commitment likely does not happen without Wes' involvement. Wes didn't have to get in an uncomfortable situation bu blocking any attempts by Gtown towards Dunigan because Dunigan took himself out of the running very quickly and allowed a fun weekend at Oregon (with his boy and Wes) to dtermine who he would commit to. Ask yourself if you think Dunigan is as happy with his decision now all these months later. No offense but I ain't buying this. If Bras doesn't qualify that's a shame but I doubt just because you predicted the possibility of that means you had real inside info. This is the Jeff Green scenario all over again when a dozen people on various DC oriented sports message boards claimed to know that Jeff was a a terrible student with poor wok habits who would not qualify for his freshmen year at college. I may be wrong about this but i Ithink you're going by old info that's been spreading since last year. However unless you have information concerning Bras' grades at Hargrave and his test scores then you are merely speculating. Agreed about Braswell having some issues in the past. But III HAD to know of his rep before he started heavily recruiting him. While his commitment to GTown may have gone to his head and made him even more of an underachiever as if he had nothing further to prove, Braswell had some negatives to overcome before he transferred to DeMatha and committed to the Hoyas. I'm not trying tosuggest Bras has no responsibility concerning his shortcomings, but in the end the final decison to go after the guy was III's. He has to live with it. That's fine. I can respect that. But I don't believe in badmouthing kids. They aren't legit targets to me just because they sign a letter of intent to play for a big time college basketball program. We just see things differently on this front.
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balla
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Post by balla on Mar 7, 2008 21:23:09 GMT -5
1st. You are wrong on Dunigan as it pertains to Gtown. But since he is gone, I will not go into it.
2nd. I do not speculate, nor will I disclose where/who I get my info from. You can take it or leave it. It does not matter to me.
3rd. Braswell fell-off because of Braswell. That is not on III or anyone else.
4th. It is funny, I don't seem to post much in the way of negatives about Sims, Monroe, Clark, Hollis...
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