07-08 student season tickets

[mikeylikesit]

i guess this is addressed to hoya blue people. i was just wondering how you guys are going to deal with the process of selling season ticket packages for students. obviously many people were upset last year that the tickets sold quicker than expected to mostly freshmen...and this year demand should be higher than ever after the final four season. i've been a season-ticket holder for a few years and i will be a senior, i also know many of my friends are a little nervous about the process after last year. could you tell me how this is going to play out this year?

[GUHoya07]

Although Im no longer doing this stuff and don't know any exact details, Im sure Hoya Blue will be working along with the athletic department to make sure the process is easy and fair for everyone. I wouldn't be nervous about anything because tickets will not sell out, students who want to go to games will be able to. I would wait to hear official word from the athletic department about the process for the upcoming season.

[bubbrubbhoya]

guhoya2007 said:

Although Im no longer doing this stuff and don't know any exact details, Im sure Hoya Blue will be working along with the athletic department to make sure the process is easy and fair for everyone. I wouldn't be nervous about anything because tickets will not sell out, students who want to go to games will be able to. I would wait to hear official word from the athletic department about the process for the upcoming season.

I find it disturbing that anyone could have so much faith in an administrative activity run by Georgetown University.

[McBricks]

I find it disturbing that anyone could have so much faith in an administrative activity run by Georgetown University.[/quote]

You mean "Geogeotown" University?

[bubbrubbhoya]

mcbricks said:

I find it disturbing that anyone could have so much faith in an administrative activity run by Georgetown University.

You mean "Geogeotown" University?[/quote]

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Be more constuctive with your feedback...please.

[ExcitableBoy]

Bubbrubb,

You've changed your name to Kige Ramsey and have gotten a job at You Tube Sports!!??

The old Bubbrubb would never have done that. You've changed.

[SFHoya99]

bubbrubbhoya said:

mcbricks said:

I find it disturbing that anyone could have so much faith in an administrative activity run by Georgetown University.

You mean "Geogeotown" University?

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Be more constuctive with your feedback...please.[/quote]

I'd say "Run spellcheck on national press releases or the University will look stupid" is pretty damn constructive.

[lichoya68]

IN ANY CASE GET THEM EARLY AND SELL THEM OUT GO HOYAS WHAT A YEAR ITLL BE 2008 WILL BE GREAT GO HOYAS ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[RBHoya]

mikeylikesit said:

i guess this is addressed to hoya blue people. i was just wondering how you guys are going to deal with the process of selling season ticket packages for students. obviously many people were upset last year that the tickets sold quicker than expected to mostly freshmen...and this year demand should be higher than ever after the final four season. i've been a season-ticket holder for a few years and i will be a senior, i also know many of my friends are a little nervous about the process after last year. could you tell me how this is going to play out this year?

The athletic department is currently finalizing their plans for student season ticket sales. Once they get everything all set the details will be made public. For the moment, rest assured that everyone in the athletic department is aware of the fact that student ticket sales were mismanaged last year and there will certainly be changes made to the system for '07-'08. Assuming you're on the Hoya Blue email list (if not, drop us a note "[e-mail]" and let us know you want to be), keep an eye on your inbox and as soon as the system goes public we'll make a big announcement.

[hoyastrong]

here's an idea, only send e-mails to hoya blue members first so all us diehards are guaranteed, then let all the rainy-day fans know

[RBHoya]

I like where your head is at hoyastrong, but we want to be inclusive and give everyone an equal chance regardless of how interested they have been in the past. Level playing field is the only way to go. Plus, the AD or student affairs will probably email the entire student body with the info at some point before sales begin, so we couldn't really give our members that advantage if we wanted to.

Speaking personally, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Sales are going to be done fairly this year, so if you really want tickets just keep an ear out and you should be fine.

[mikeylikesit]

rbhoya said:

I like where your head is at hoyastrong, but we want to be inclusive and give everyone an equal chance regardless of how interested they have been in the past. Level playing field is the only way to go. Plus, the AD or student affairs will probably email the entire student body with the info at some point before sales begin, so we couldn't really give our members that advantage if we wanted to.

Speaking personally, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Sales are going to be done fairly this year, so if you really want tickets just keep an ear out and you should be fine.

as long as i've got a fair shot at getting season tickets, i'm sure i will get them, i'm more dedicated than most at this school so i'm not particularly worried for myself. however, i still don't think i agree with the "everyone deserves an equal chance" attitude. if you've had season tickets in the past, i think you deserve a better opportunity to retain them in the future... i know that it works this way at some other schools, and i like their approach (again, i'm sure the demand will increase a great deal this year after the final four).

[LizziebethHoya]

mikeylikesit said:

as long as i've got a fair shot at getting season tickets, i'm sure i will get them, i'm more dedicated than most at this school so i'm not particularly worried for myself. however, i still don't think i agree with the "everyone deserves an equal chance" attitude. if you've had season tickets in the past, i think you deserve a better opportunity to retain them in the future... i know that it works this way at some other schools, and i like their approach (again, i'm sure the demand will increase a great deal this year after the final four).

I wouldn't worry too much about it. Most schools that have that system in place have a smaller arena and a much bigger student body. Luckily, we have a big arena (that usually does not sell out) and well as a relatively small student body. The AD wants every student to go to every game, and rest assured they are working on a system that will allow this. Therefore, the fair playing field is really a good approach.

[bubbrubbhoya]

hoyastrong said:

here's an idea, only send e-mails to hoya blue members first so all us diehards are guaranteed, then let all the rainy-day fans know

This is just a silly idea, and it betrays the reason why many students (sorry..."rainy-day fans") couldn't care less about Hoya Blue. There is a perception that HB is simply around to reserve the front 5 rows for its own members, excluding the rest of the student body from the primo seats for no apparent reason. What allows them to do this? Access to the tickets and early access to the Verizon Center...NOT a greater dedication to the team than the rest of the student body.

The "rainy-day fans," by the way, include almost every actual student-athlete at Georgetown, whose athletic commitments preclude them from being able to attend many HB scheduled events (either because their games are the HB events, or because practices and games leave little free time in which to study, socialize, and what have you). I'm sure there are plenty of student-athlete members of HB, but most don't bother. This qualifies them for "rainy-day fan" status? No.

Other "rainy-day fans" are student season ticket holders who go to every game but have zero interest in organizing events and taking a bus to Verizon Center three hours before the game starts. They do what fans do: show up and root for the team. Most debate the team's ups and downs during the season. Many are on this board, but the vast majority are not. Most will buy Georgetown merchandise. Of course, since they haven't self-identified themselves as "hard core" by joining HB, they're all "rainy-day fans," right? No.

Other "rainy-day fans?" How about freshmen who have not yet had the chance to join HB?

Not to touch a sensitive subject, but your argument (or misguided statement, as the case may be) is reminiscent of every annoying television announcer who slurps the Cameron Crazies. I'm not saying that HB is as unbearably awful and self-promoting as this group of campus nobodies, because in fact HB does a great job of promoting basketball to the entire student body, but if your proposal was the policy of the group, then it wouldn't be long before the rest of Georgetown looked at HB as most of Duke looks at the Cameron Crazies.

Thanks to RBHoya for showing that the real HB policy is not in line with this ignorant statement. HB may only be a student organization, but it has a real responsibility in that it holds the keys to the one real point of campus pride at Georgetown outside of the school's outstanding academics, and academics don't really give the shared feeling of pride and joy that comes with witnessing Duke get pasted along with 35,000 of your best friends dressed in gray. The whole student body, including diehards, may not belong to HB, but HB belongs to the whole student body, and I'm glad the people in charge of HB realize that.

[hoyastrong]

bubbrub, you need to A)loosen up, B)carefully re-read my post and C)get your facts right...

All joining HB involves is simply entering your netID on their website to put yourself on their e-mail list and add you name to the roster, so any freshman who wants to can do it. You don't have to go to a single meeting. Also, HB only reserves about 4 or 5 seats on each side for the officers who have to come early, and as someone who is not an officer, I can tell you that I have frequently enjoyed front row seats, and I have been to very few meetings.

That being said, perhaps my first statement was a little too blunt, so allow me to clarify. I was suggesting that HB members be NOTIFIED first, since they are the ones who care enough about this info to be on the list in the first place. My main reasoning for all this is that, while I'm not too worried about the AD coming up with enough tickets, they can't change the amount of seats behind the baskets, so surely they will just be releasing more crap like those upper deck nosebleed sections.

I agree that releasing tix to HB memebers first would not be right, and this is not what I was arguing. If they did this, everyone would just join HB and it would defeat the purpose. HB is comprised of the students who care most about getting info ASAP, and so this is exactly what should be done. If HB members want to tell their non-HB friends, thats fine, but I know plenty of people who wouldn't find out early and frankly wouldn't care to find out early because they would be just fine with the upper deck seats.

So why not let the information flow sort out the people who care enough to find the info rather than just wait until a university-wide e-mail gets sent out.

[bubbrubbhoya]

hoyastrong said:

bubbrub, you need to A)loosen up, B)carefully re-read my post and C)get your facts right...

All joining HB involves is simply entering your netID on their website to put yourself on their e-mail list and add you name to the roster, so any freshman who wants to can do it. You don't have to go to a single meeting. Also, HB only reserves about 4 or 5 seats on each side for the officers who have to come early, and as someone who is not an officer, I can tell you that I have frequently enjoyed front row seats, and I have been to very few meetings.

That being said, perhaps my first statement was a little too blunt, so allow me to clarify. I was suggesting that HB members be NOTIFIED first, since they are the ones who care enough about this info to be on the list in the first place. My main reasoning for all this is that, while I'm not too worried about the AD coming up with enough tickets, they can't change the amount of seats behind the baskets, so surely they will just be releasing more crap like those upper deck nosebleed sections.

I agree that releasing tix to HB memebers first would not be right, and this is not what I was arguing. If they did this, everyone would just join HB and it would defeat the purpose. HB is comprised of the students who care most about getting info ASAP, and so this is exactly what should be done. If HB members want to tell their non-HB friends, thats fine, but I know plenty of people who wouldn't find out early and frankly wouldn't care to find out early because they would be just fine with the upper deck seats.

So why not let the information flow sort out the people who care enough to find the info rather than just wait until a university-wide e-mail gets sent out.

I carefully re-read your post and took 10 deep breaths to relax. After reading your four-paragraph restatement of your previous one-line post, I conclude that you still just don't get it. LOL, I guess.

[dajuan]

hoyastrong said:

bubbrub, you need to A)loosen up, B)carefully re-read my post and C)get your facts right...

All joining HB involves is simply entering your netID on their website to put yourself on their e-mail list and add you name to the roster, so any freshman who wants to can do it. You don't have to go to a single meeting. Also, HB only reserves about 4 or 5 seats on each side for the officers who have to come early, and as someone who is not an officer, I can tell you that I have frequently enjoyed front row seats, and I have been to very few meetings.

That being said, perhaps my first statement was a little too blunt, so allow me to clarify. I was suggesting that HB members be NOTIFIED first, since they are the ones who care enough about this info to be on the list in the first place. My main reasoning for all this is that, while I'm not too worried about the AD coming up with enough tickets, they can't change the amount of seats behind the baskets, so surely they will just be releasing more crap like those upper deck nosebleed sections.

I agree that releasing tix to HB memebers first would not be right, and this is not what I was arguing. If they did this, everyone would just join HB and it would defeat the purpose. HB is comprised of the students who care most about getting info ASAP, and so this is exactly what should be done. If HB members want to tell their non-HB friends, thats fine, but I know plenty of people who wouldn't find out early and frankly wouldn't care to find out early because they would be just fine with the upper deck seats.

So why not let the information flow sort out the people who care enough to find the info rather than just wait until a university-wide e-mail gets sent out.

As a young alumnus, basketball fan and non-member of Hoya Blue, I disagree with your statement that members of Hoya Blue care more than non-members. In my time at the University I did not sign up for Hoya Blue. This was not because I was too lazy to do so and not because I didn't have the time to attend meetings or plan events. It was because I did not want to be associated with the organization or many of its practices, which I felt were self-involved, often embarrassing, and unfair to student basketball fans that were not involved.

I agree that Hoya Blue does good things for the basketball team and promotes school spirit, but I disagree with any preference given to anyone in Hoya Blue on the basis of their membership or rank within the organization.

[SFHoya99]

How has this discussion gotten this far without the words "Media Whores" being written?

[TBird41]

sfhoya99 said:

How has this discussion gotten this far without the words "Media Whores" being written?

Or the phrase "Whole 'nother level"?

[SFHoya99]

tbird41 said:

sfhoya99 said:

How has this discussion gotten this far without the words "Media Whores" being written?

Or the phrase "Whole 'nother level"?

I know. Hoyatalk has really jumped the shark.