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Post by guru on Aug 2, 2022 8:57:37 GMT -5
You have zero idea how this played out. None. Constantly posting your assumed scenario doesn’t make it true. It’s Trump-esque and a waste of the board’s time. Again, you haven’t the first clue on what happened here. Lol! Trump-esque? Really Guru? Smh... Isn’t it? Repeat the same made-up storyline? Granted, it’s over the top
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Post by guru on Aug 2, 2022 8:39:05 GMT -5
This is laughable... many of us know there is no genuine concern for Tim. This is just another thinly veiled attempt to attack Coach Ewing. I think y'all can be more creative... I know you can't wrap your mind around it in your Ewing celebrity-worship, but some people take the side of the 18-22 year old athletes in college basketball and not the millionaire coaches who break the rules and treat kids as a commodity. NIL is a good thing. Athletes being able to transfer without restriction is a good thing. If Georgetown is going to field a college basketball team, neither of those changes should alter Georgetown's responsibility when they offer an athlete a scholarship to try to get kids to graduate and give them an education. If someone is doing their part in the classroom and is consistently making the Big East All-Academic team, you shouldn't be running them off. You have zero idea how this played out. None. Constantly posting your assumed scenario doesn’t make it true. It’s Trump-esque and a waste of the board’s time. Again, you haven’t the first clue on what happened here.
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Post by guru on Aug 1, 2022 15:28:22 GMT -5
Close but not quite apples to apples....it's more like the chairman booting out D students because he only wants C+ or better. The only player that is a C that was booted(if this happened) was Collin. The rest that left were D or worse players. Chairmen do this every year. ODU kindly asked me to leave in '94🤣 Perhaps I should have said "undergraduate". Are undergraduates forced to leave at the discretion of department chairs? My larger point was that regardless of your lot in life, Georgetown admits people with the full expectation that they are capable to graduate at commencement. Whether that student finishes with a 2.0 or a 4.0, they are alumni just the same. None of us know the circumstances around transfers and that's appropriate, but the idea that any coach at Georgetown would "cut" players at the expense of an education is something GU should publicly repudiate. Worst case, a player who either isn't meeting expectations or just doesn't want to play anymore should be given the option to continue his education without an athletic grant. That brings up the wild card around Timothy Ighoefe. He was a three time all-Big East academic team selection, so this isn't a case of being an academic issue. International students don't get a financial aid guarantee that domestic students get, so they are unlikely to be able to stay without a grant in aid. Without being enrolled somewhere, an international player's visa comes under scrutiny. Over the years, the international players that weren't as productive on the court (Bosanac, Owinje, Touomou, Dizdarevic, Ayegba, etc.) still kept a scholarship and most these graduated. Yes, some left for other opportunities (Wahab), but they weren't cut. A move from Georgetown to California Baptist University is very unusual, which is why I would think people have raised the question. But unless Ighoefe breaks the code of silence to talk about it, we'll really never know. Finally someone in this discussion points out that no one on this board really has any idea of the details surrounding what happened with Tim. Both those who are defending the move and those who are denouncing it are, to use a parlance, talking out of their hind quarters. Which makes the obsessiveness of some involved in the discussion even more ridiculous. They are getting completely vexed over a scenario that, for now, exists entirely in their mind. Welcome to Hoyatalk, I guess.
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Post by guru on Jul 28, 2022 18:30:00 GMT -5
Boy are the bots out in force today.
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Post by guru on Jul 27, 2022 9:26:47 GMT -5
This team is going to make the tourney because it's good enough to win their games in the conference or they aren't. I think it's a very rare scenario some are worried about where we go like 9-11 or 10-10 in the BE coupled with a Q4 loss and/or we failed to have a single P5 win in the non-conference. Yes in that case an 18-14 team, with maybe only 1-2 Q1 wins and a bad SOS is likely on the outside looking in. But then what if I told you that in another scenario at 18-14 we beat Nova twice, UConn once, and Creighton once? The scenario you are describing is basically 2018-2019 - 19 wins, 9-9 in conference, beat Villanova, beat Marquette, beat Illinois, still nowhere near the bubble. Need 22 wins and 11-12 BE wins with this schedule. Scheduling matters, and you need a competitive schedule to get yourself into the tournament. Let's all be honest - making the tournament isn't the goal for this year. The goal is to be mediocre enough to not get Patrick Ewing fired. Ewing isn't getting fired. This year proved that. So the goal becomes very simple - get better, and get better results. And I agree that making the tournament, though certainly desirable and marginally possible, is not the goal this season. The program is in a very strange place.
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Post by guru on Jul 26, 2022 12:11:01 GMT -5
I agree with Bobby that we need to obviously be building towards going 500 in the BE as a basic necessity and were that to be achieved our schedule should not be the thing holding us back as it did in the past as you can actually control that. There are millions of variables over the course of a basketball season but schedule should not be one of them that works against us if they are serious about making it back to March. And while there have been some decently positive movements towards some willingness to change, this is concerning about any changes in where they matter the most during the season With this OOC schedule, I think it's pretty clear that we're dealing with one of two scenarios: 1) Ewing/Ronny don't understand how to schedule effectively in the non-conference to give themselves the best chance of making the NCAA Tournament; or 2) The 2022-2023 season isn't about making the NCAA Tournament, it's about showing progress from 6-25, 0-20 It's very unlikely that we'll have an overall losing record based on this OOC schedule, as there is very little excuse to go any worse than 8-3. We'll likely be favored in every non-conference game except at Texas Tech and at Syracuse, with Wake Forest (if we play them) likely a push. We'll be favored to beat Northwestern and South Carolina at home. So let's say we go 8-3 in the non-conference. We'd then only need to go 8-12 in the Big East to end the regular season with a winning record. That would probably be all the justification DeGioia needs to run it back with Ewing for another season. I think #2 is certainly true. Pretty long odds that a team could go from 5 wins to the NCAA tournament in one year. Honestly, it’s probably not realistic. And we know that Ewing is likely here for a few more seasons for better or worse (mostly worse, I know). I think if anyone is going into the season thinking that anything less than a tourney berth is a disappointment, they’re just going to be angry. I don’t like that the program is at this point, but I’m hoping that the climb back starts this year.
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Post by guru on Jul 26, 2022 11:56:09 GMT -5
This really might break the bots.
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Post by guru on Jul 25, 2022 15:37:03 GMT -5
LOL. This might break the bots. More likely, it will break the stalkers that fancy themselves as board intelligencia, but couldn't bother looking at the source of the info before trying to use it to advance their stalking agenda. Exactly. We are simpatico my friend. Those weirdo stalkers.
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Post by guru on Jul 25, 2022 15:36:03 GMT -5
This person covers NCAA women's soccer lol Ha. I wanted to see who would notice it first before it lead to a 3 page debate about the schedule. Well done my friend. LOL
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Post by guru on Jul 25, 2022 14:46:46 GMT -5
LOL. This might break the bots.
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Post by guru on Jul 20, 2022 19:33:14 GMT -5
So, complaining about someone calling out your endlessly repetitive posts, and then AGAIN reposting something you acknowledge (“confirm once again”) you’ve posted several times previously - that’s adding “substance” to the board, is it? Go back and huddle with boya, 9797 and rest of your ilk to figure out the next negative angle to put on repeat. 2003 posts Marvel Allen is a good get, compliments Nickelberry. You attack him and call him a bot. He defends himself a little, tries to stay on topic and says a few nice things about Allen. You complain he's being endlessly repetitive and negative. How about reading someone's post for a change and maybe posting about basketball or the program instead of kneejerk character attacks on 2003 and acting like a creepy message board stalker? If you can be judged by the kind of posters who disagree with you, I’m comfortable with the likes of the pearl-clutching morality cop TC and board archivist/research specialist 2003 on the other side.
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Post by guru on Jul 20, 2022 19:27:29 GMT -5
So, complaining about someone calling out your endlessly repetitive posts, and then AGAIN reposting something you acknowledge (“confirm once again”) you’ve posted several times previously - that’s adding “substance” to the board, is it? Go back and huddle with boya, 9797 and rest of your ilk to figure out the next negative angle to put on repeat. I truly don't understand your constant desire to rip into other people. I looked at your last 20 posts. 19 were about basketball, one about politics. Leaving the political one aside, all of your posts involved criticism of a handful of posters, oftentimes using insults: Me/HoyaSaxa2003: Calling me a " crafty bot," and then a " bot" that blathers. hoyaboya: Who you called at various times a " clown," " dope," and " effing ray of sunshine"; accusing him of using a sock puppet. hoya9797: Called him a " loser," a 13 year old, a " serial harasser," a " pointless troll," and you told him to " get a life" TC: Criticized him for repetitive posts Even your non-critical posts were about other posters, referencing Yaboy and RDF leaving. I am certain if we go further back your history of attacking and harassing other posters will be even more clear. You talk about other people getting banned (particularly hoyaboya), yet all you do is harass. Obviously, you've been around here a long time and presumably like/love Georgetown, but I don't understand your strategy of insulting everyone else for their posts while adding nothing yourself. If you want to chat basketball, I'm all ears, but enough with your years of hurling insults and other nonsense. LOL. Weirdo
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Post by guru on Jul 20, 2022 12:56:41 GMT -5
EVERY thread is devoted to griping and sniping right now - it's the off-season! True, many of us gripe and snipe and repeat ourselves because there's nothing new to talk about. But it's another thing for some people who seem to post on HoyaTalk only to complain or talk about different posters, including the particular one who focuses on my posts, calls me a bot, and makes snarky comments about posters without ever adding any substance. We could do without that part, I think. In fact, to bring it back to Allen, one of the examples of that was my stating I was happy we got Allen, then noting that others talked about his performance this summer, and somehow that warranted wasting everyone's time with a post calling me out for what amounts to nothing. To confirm once again, I am glad to have Allen in the fold, I think he can develop into a nice piece, and the key to creating a base for success is recruiting top 100-types. Allen's commitment is in line with that. In my mind, I don't care if his stock has fallen, or if he falls in the ratings. We need top 100-150 type guys, and he is one of them, so I am glad he committed. So, complaining about someone calling out your endlessly repetitive posts, and then AGAIN reposting something you acknowledge (“confirm once again”) you’ve posted several times previously - that’s adding “substance” to the board, is it? Go back and huddle with boya, 9797 and rest of your ilk to figure out the next negative angle to put on repeat.
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Post by guru on Jul 20, 2022 7:33:55 GMT -5
He makes stuff up to suit his agenda and fill his day. He has nothing better to do. I do feel for the kid's family, who has to read this garbage, especially from someone who spews negativity on every thread because (again) he has nothing else to do with his day. He's ruined the site. The shame of it is that Boya provides solid input with links and info on the recruiting board. But he's so negative and the agenda is so poorly veiled that he's another I added to the mute list. He’s resorted to using his sock puppet “hoyanewyorka” now. LOL
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Post by guru on Jul 19, 2022 14:53:12 GMT -5
I have him blocked - we all should - but every now and then, especially in recruiting, where news can come from anywhere - I click through the block to see what's up. Only to be disappointed, every time. This stuff is ridic though, steady updates on a guy we aren't on - just silly. Honestly, I still think Boya is providing a service here and I appreciate it. There have been a good number of recruits that have come out of left field and his information (in the off chance that somehow a kid we don’t think we are on but the staff makes up ground and gets a commit) is helpful. If you see the messages that we aren’t on the players trail anymore then just note that and don’t check the thread or wait until there’s buzz in another general recruiting thread. I don’t think it’s fair to let your frustration with other aspects of boyas posting bleed over and cause you to write off everything that he does. Nah, not even close. The bad outweighs the good with this clown - by a ton. Hopefully he’ll keep posting made-up, libelous statements on here and get the ban he so richly deserves.
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Post by guru on Jul 19, 2022 9:41:46 GMT -5
I know it's hard to control the negativity, but maybe not posting about HS kids we are NOT recruiting would be one place to start. It's a GU board after all, not a HS forum. Yeah, this dope’s posts are mostly all spam at this point. Not sure how he’s not banned
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Post by guru on Jul 19, 2022 9:40:51 GMT -5
He’s been playing this summer with a knee injury and is shut down the rest of the year. When healthy, he’s been a monster. Don’t think ranking matters all that much. Kid should be a 2-3 year player for us and a damn good one. If his injury was so bad, why did he play? The only people I've seen suggesting that his injury was significant are Twitterverse members of the Ewing/Ronny Thompson mafia. The fact is that he played this spring and summer, didn't impress, most top schools backed away from recruiting him, and he committed to Georgetown. Seems clear that the claims of "injury" only came after he played poorly in an attempt to explain that level of performance, which was frankly pretty awful for a kid that came into this AAU season a consensus top 50 player. He won't drop in the rankings because he committed to Georgetown, he won't drop in the rankings because he decided to play "injured". He will drop in the rankings because he performed poorly on the biggest stage going into his senior season, while other guys improved their stock. You’re a real effing ray of sunshine, you know that?
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Post by guru on Jul 18, 2022 18:58:45 GMT -5
Real question for the Trump "Republicans:" outside of Roe (which, BTW, most people want to keep), what did he actually accomplish that you wanted him to accomplish? I mean, I’m no Trump fan but I assume most would start with the Supreme Court, which seems set on dictating the future of the country for decades to come.
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Post by guru on Jul 18, 2022 16:00:09 GMT -5
This seems like a good get (especially coming off the season we had last year), even if Allen's stock has fallen somewhat of late. Obviously, Nickelberry is better at relationships/connections than our previous staff was. What a crafty bot - throwing just a tad more shade than it did in its previous post about this exact same topic. Well done, bot!
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Post by guru on Jul 18, 2022 15:56:01 GMT -5
Maybe, Nickelberry should get Ewing’s salary and vice versa. Pat’s coming off 0-20 and Kevin is single-handedly resurrecting the program. What Nickelberry has achieved has been really nice, but the real question is whether the team can play a cohesive defense, good quality? That really goes beyond talent (though good talent helps, of course). On the strategy/defensive side, we basically have the removal of Kirby and Waheed, and replacement with Nickelberry and Baldwin. Otherwise, basically everything stays the same. Will those two mean a change in defense? I don't know. It's too bad Brooks didn't work out. That is still so weird. Good to see that hoyasaxa2003 bot is posting again! Today's program is set to blather about defense with nothing new to add. Welcome bot!
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