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Post by hoya9797 on Oct 11, 2022 11:02:54 GMT -5
Question for the experienced ball players out there. I noticed on twitter that GU had an open practice. What does this mean. Could anyone have attended because I noticed that the stands were empty from my vantage point. Did anyone out there attend and what was learned if anything. And the fact it was empty is a very very bad sign. HHC member 40+ years and I didn't attend. On a related note, did anyone attend the bowling NIL event held earlier this year? I’ve heard, anecdotally for sure, that they raised several hundred thousand dollars at that event. Given the lack of support for this team across the board, I find that number extremely implausible and hard to believe but I’m open to having my mind changed. So, anyone out there know more about it?
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Post by hoya9797 on Oct 10, 2022 20:04:36 GMT -5
I agree with that as a general concept, but how do you know what level the new coaching team is at? That's the thing I'll be looking really closely at because PE and the other folks behind the scene at the TAC were given what seems like carte blanche to go out and put this thing together so as not to repeat last year. I get the feeling that returning to past glory is the ultimate goal, and if real evidence is not there that the program is moving in that direction in a real way, you have to think that wholesale changes will follow. The players are there -- it really is up to the coaches to put it together and win. Just hard to say from here how they're doing so far. The head coach is the worst coach in the country and the assistants don’t exactly have sterling records themselves. Odds are very strong the coaching will continue to be horrible.
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Post by hoya9797 on Oct 10, 2022 9:13:29 GMT -5
Average paid attendance? About 4,000? Going to be very hard to figure out average paid attendance but that is part of the reason they want to flood the zone with freebies. The really sad thing will be how few people take these free tickets.
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Post by hoya9797 on Oct 7, 2022 14:51:15 GMT -5
For sure he’s one and done at GU. Do graduation rates matter anymore, or are those up the hill not paying attention? Seems like the answer is no but if the APR penalties are resumed, I’d have to hope there is some sort of ramification for the likely loss of scholarships and postseason (ha) ban.
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Post by hoya9797 on Oct 7, 2022 13:38:44 GMT -5
Come to Georgetown! Don't get drafted, don't graduate, leave after a year! For sure he’s one and done at GU.
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Post by hoya9797 on Oct 6, 2022 6:35:59 GMT -5
Before you bury the lede, consider this: there's probably a good reason Rob Dauster or Terrence Oglesby speak with authority on Creighton or Xavier, and say next to nothing specific on Georgetown: they are familiar with these other programs and aren't about GU. By extension, Ronny Thompson enforces a press curtain which makes it next to impossible for any reporter to get to know Georgetown coaches or players. Even for John Fanta, his touchpoints with the program are limited, whereas he probably has Shaheen Holloway or Ed Cooley on speed dial. This may have been the procedure of the Bill Shapland era, but it's 2022. Funny when you consider Fanta is on the very short list that's allowed to enter the TAC. Seriously though, they couldn't even say something like: Georgetown. New assistants, new players, is this the final chance for Ewing after last season's nightmare? Like, we didn't even get that? Why would you think this is Ewing’s final chance?
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Post by hoya9797 on Oct 4, 2022 11:51:35 GMT -5
How about when down 25 with five minutes left given that that is the situation that actually frequently applies to Georgetown? Pat said that some of the 10-pt losses were close games. 🙃 Nobody has ever put more stock in garbage time performances than Pat Ewing.
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Post by hoya9797 on Oct 3, 2022 14:22:38 GMT -5
Who is our player "set to make a jump"? If recent years are any indication, about seven guys will jump.
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Post by hoya9797 on Oct 2, 2022 16:19:40 GMT -5
I assume we are not having a Midnight Madness event or something similar because the university is paranoid about COVID or because they think nobody will show up. Covid is a convenient, if absurd, excuse but the reality is they are too lazy and disorganized to pull it off.
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 29, 2022 17:45:31 GMT -5
No, not a crazy prediction if he ignores some obvious changes. What you say is true except for the last point -- yeah, we lost a lot of players. So the question becomes how did we do in replacing those players and filling the new roster for the 22-23 season? I think there's little doubt that we are a more athletic, versatile team with more length and skills at just about every position. We lost a 5-star and gained a better 5-star (Aminu - Murray). We lost our starting center and gained (back) a better starting center (Igohefe - Wahab). We lost a few guards and replaced them with very arguably better guards(Carey, Beard - Spears, Anglin, Heath). We lost 2 forwards and have more athletic & hopefully effective forwards (Billingsly, Holloway - Eweziro, Akok). Plus we have energy, athleticism, and some experience coming off the bench - Bristol, Bass, Mozone, Riley, Mutumbo, possibly Harris depending on starting lineup). And, lastly, we have a new bunch of coaches -- and that is where the most question marks are for me. As hoyaatheart55 said so succinctly - we have the talent overall to be an at large bid team, it really depends on the how the coaches make all the pieces work together. SO -- why be optimistic on that front? Well, it would be awfully hard to imagine the coaching not changing at all, so I am led to hope that Ewing will allow Coach Nick to do his thing (defense like at LSU maybe? pep talks, x's & o's?), Crouch to do his (keeping your head in a good place, focus, positivity, team unity), Baldwin to do whatever he does (maybe run interference with Coach Pat so that Nick and Crouch can do the big stuff?). I just can't see them sticking to the same defensive play -- it's such a glaring and obvious need for improvement that I would think and hope and trust that they are all over it, right? Those things alone will make for a different & better team and season. (Dang, even the social media is a huge improvement -- fun to see. Boys are smiling) So - long answer a bit longer -- just based on the better, deeper roster, we can, we will be better than last year. Better than last place absolutely - come on, give me a break. IF the team has begun to find its identity and they are playing together, IF the coaches have helped established clear roles & the players have begun to buy into the plan, and IF they are playing Hoya defense -- lots of IF's, for sure -- then it's going to be fun, we're going to win and play some close, exciting games, and Mr. Carino will owe us all a beer to make up for underestimating our boys. Can't wait. Nov. 8, baby. Let's go! Yes, hopefully Coach Nick can bring the coaching genius that resulted in an 86-108 record in the MEAC. I suppose that’s still better than whatever Ewing can do but you might want to pump the brakes on these Coach Nick hopes.
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 27, 2022 18:54:16 GMT -5
Doesn't matter. Usually some unheralded player has a career night against the Hoyas. We even started a predict the "NBA player of the Game" in the prediction thread. 😁 True True. Career night by more than double. Yet another way Pat Ewing is just so unlucky.
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 27, 2022 14:15:56 GMT -5
Is Hurricane Ian G-d's response to DeSantis's evil treatment of migrants? No
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 25, 2022 10:19:01 GMT -5
Are you implying that, because of all this “free” stuff (they do have to work so not sure how free it is), they should be ok whitewashing any coverage of this team and coach? The question is for depressedhoya, double97. Unless depressedhoya is your alt account My question was for you.
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 25, 2022 8:57:08 GMT -5
As a current student-journalist who is now going into my third year covering the team for one of the larger student-run outlets and has had the opportunity to go to media day in the past, I have nothing but the utmost respect for this move and want you to know how much it means for us to know we have someone in our corner. It truly means a lot so thank you. Now on the issue at hand, I know I'm a little late to the conversation, but I'd like to chime in if I can. First, I really think you're crazy if you think that having Jon was a mistake. I got the chance to meet him in the past and you could tell how important it is to be on his good side. Having him is fine. Now coming from the student-journalist/blogger side, it is down right offensive that the basketball team that I have devoted so much of my time and effort into rooting on and covering has done absolutely nothing to support us. It is at the point where we are afraid to publish what we actually think because we're honestly scared the program is going to take away anything we have left, basically relegating us from the media. We cover every game, through the good and the bad, publish timely articles with a fair amount of frequency during the season and do our best to act the part as journalists while in the press room or covering the game court side, but in response the program won't even acknowledge our emails. We've never written a hit piece or anything that might make us get on the program's bad side but it feels like we're at risk of losing everything we've worked toward in the past. Look, at the end of the day we're just students and most of us aren't going into sports media after we graduate. But at the same time we're fans and have provided and devoted more to this team through the roughest patch in its history than most people (and especially national journalists) can say. I'm not saying I expect special treatment, I just want acknowledgement. For once I want to be regarded as a part of this community and not a fourth rate member of society. Just for once I ask this program to show us SOME respect. Now, my unnamed outlet (and that's for good reason since I swear we'd lose our credentials for this) just had it's biggest recruitment cycle in recent memory and as a senior member of the team, my biggest pitch was how it has taken my fandom to the next level. Telling my fellow students about sitting in on the press conferences after each BET game in 2021 or about having casual conversations with Ewing at Media Day really gave them excitement that I haven't seen from the students about this team since I got on campus, but now I sit here not knowing what our coverage is going to look like. We will persevere and we'll get content out in one way or another, but how can we expect my fellow student-journalists to put in the effort when the program barely acknowledges us? PhillyHoyas I have nothing but respect for you. It really feels good to know you support us and hopefully more people will start to understand what we put in to cover our team. Its an honor to do what I do and I wouldn't trade it for anything and I get the fact that we're not perfect, but it would just help knowing we have some support as we navigate this rough terrain. So you are getting free press passes, free court side seats to games and access to the post game pressers and interviews with a Coach? Is this correct? Are you implying that, because of all this “free” stuff (they do have to work so not sure how free it is), they should be ok whitewashing any coverage of this team and coach?
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 24, 2022 16:36:25 GMT -5
The second line should have read JT3 and I fixed it. He did have a nice run. The main point is that this program hasn’t succeeded by trying to make it a family business. I don’t believe it ever will. It's interesting how only the black coaches and their abilities/deficiencies are discussed around here. Just so obvious... As a reminder... There's Craig Esherick, John Magee, Tom Nolan, Tommy O'Keefe, Francis "Buddy" O'Grady, etc... Why don't some of y'all go and write a paper on some of those guys and bring back the championships and share them with the table... I'll be waiting... And don't forget to use APA. #don'tevenhideitanymore Yes, I remember well all the protests and outrage on campus when Esh got fired and we can’t go a day here without people pining for the good old Esh days.
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 24, 2022 13:26:12 GMT -5
Hiring JT2 was catching lighting in a bottle. The perfect person at the right time. Everything since then has been an attempt to leverage the legacy and has been a failure, except for the early JT2 years. The basketball office needs to be gutted by an outsider. The program is failing on and off the court. For those that were too young for all of big John, the jt3 years weren't too shabby. They get better every season. Calling those seasons a failure seems like you are only remembering the bad parts Agree. With the exception of the very end, even the bad JTIII years were pretty good. JTIII’s worst was better than anything we’ve got now.
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 24, 2022 10:01:24 GMT -5
This puts an end to any debate re: if Ewing thinks of his players as students or as pro league athletes. No wonder our APR is so terrible. There’s no accountability from Ewing. He’s just running a pro team in which he’s a part owner and head coach, and he can fire everybody to start from scratch without any consequence to his position. Once again, not even the slightest hint of accountability for the disaster he has created. Ewing is a bad guy.
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 23, 2022 15:23:45 GMT -5
Does anybody know how I can watch games overseas? I'm a student studying abroad in Australia and won't be back until December. I know the games before it are pretty insignificant, but I really want to find a way to watch. A VPN and Fox Sports streaming?
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 23, 2022 10:39:58 GMT -5
The point is how the team will do and out coaches guarantee that the team will underperform. SO THAT'S your point - I hadn't been able to make that out from your last 1700 posts saying that very same thing. Pardon me for thinking there were more interesting things to discuss. PS: Please refer to the 4th quote in my signature. I guess the block feature is broken. Further details--Adminwww.proboards.com/user-guide/profile-privacy/blocking-members
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 23, 2022 9:08:03 GMT -5
PR, I always predict that we go undefeated. That's the kind of fan I am. But you're a lawyer, you know answering a question with a question is not how the game is played. What roster do you look at and say, that one is going to be a struggle. Are you worried about the guards at MU, Depaul's transfers? Who? 97s, last time I checked, coaches don't go on the court and the question is about players, ROSTERS? Back to the block button. The point is how the team will do and out coaches guarantee that the team will underperform.
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