LCPolo18
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 31, 2021 21:00:13 GMT -5
Jayhawks landing transfer Cam Martin Kansas wasn't even in his top 6!
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 31, 2021 20:51:50 GMT -5
Is the transfer portal limited to Division 1 players? If not, the total number of players may be considerably higher than 4500. It's not limited to Division I. Over 560 in Division II. www.verbalcommits.com/transfers/2021?division=D2This seems to be a particular problem in basketball--football isn't close, nor is soccer, baseball, etc. BTW, five DePaul players have opted out in the last 48 hours. Five. You are correct that DII players use the transfer portal, and I believe DIII players can (but don't have to) use the transfer portal. However, when people are citing the 1,000+ names in the transfer portal they are referring to DI players in the transfer portal. Based on Verbal Commits as of right now there have been 1,120 names in the transfer portal since the beginning of the school year. www.verbalcommits.com/transfers/2021?division=D1
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 31, 2021 11:43:58 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 31, 2021 11:32:07 GMT -5
Then you will have to see a salary cap too, which would equalize things for the non blue bloods. And then title IX would require that the women's team is compensated with the exact same salary which would eat into the men's salary. DELETED - INAPPROPRIATE HERE. That is easily the most Editeded up thing ever posted here. Do you really believe that young men are going to pretend they are women just to get paid a little extra and enjoy a little better success? You think they will go through all the therapy and even surgery on a whim to chase 4 years of college glory? Has their been one documented case of such abuse of transgender protections? Sorry, you are a valued member of this board, but that is just a) stupid, b) cruel to actual transgender athletes who deserve an opportunity to compete in the division most appropriate for them and c) dumb to think a cis male would abuse the system to "act" female and gain advantage. Please retract this bizarre and utterly unfounded suggestion. crickets from professorhoya on this one. not sure it's worth engaging in any debates with a person who says things like that.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 30, 2021 19:06:29 GMT -5
NCAA, please put a stop to this madness. Reinstate the requirement of sitting out a year after transferring. You have created chaos. Technically, they haven't started the rule where each player can use one waiver during their 4 years of eligibility. It's just that players are anticipating that there will be a blanket waiver again like last December. Beyond not having to sit out a year, you also have the factor that all current seniors can play an extra year. So now you have a whole extra class of players (I don't know the actual numbers but that's probably at least 20% of players?) who normally would be graduating but can now either leave school, stay at school, or transfer. That's definitely going to inflate the transfer numbers. I don't have an issue with the proposed NCAA rule allowing a single waiver to be used, especially if they include any waivers that current players have already been able to use. As I mentioned earlier, it's odd that some players will be able to play for 3 different teams in 3 different years. But hopefully that's just a byproduct of the irregular couple of years that we are experiencing.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 30, 2021 16:54:31 GMT -5
It's interesting that two Hoya transfer PF targets from last Spring (Patrick Tape, Duke and Jeriah Horne, Colorado) are now back in the transfer portal.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 30, 2021 14:09:44 GMT -5
Q was one of Pat’s highest rated recruits. Don’t make him out to be an unknown recruit turned BE starter. That’s the best recruiting Pat could do at the time. He still needs “court IQ, passing, inside moves, but had decent footwork and moved up and down the court quite well. Wahab needed a lot of half court work” I didn't say he was an unknown. He had decent offers but the top 2 were Rhode Island and Georgetown. Q was the best in that class that came in, definately. Q improved his inside game and inside moves a ton as well as his ball IQ. There is more room to grow with ball IQ and he just started his inside out passing toward the end of the season. Q came in to play behind Yurtseven and grow his freshman year with work (Tim and Malcom seemed to be targetted as red shirt), but players leaving mid-season got a lot more playing time for Q (and for Tim). Q wasn't a project he has a solid base to build on, but wasn't ready to step in and go. His timing got rushed, but he grew a lot as a player. His final 5 schools were Pitt, Georgetown, Syracuse, Virginia Tech, and UConn. He also had offers at one point or another from Clemson, Rutgers, Seton Hall, St. John's, LSU, Louisville, Miami, Ohio State, Temple, VCU, Rhode Island, UMass, Saint Joseph's, Old Dominion, George Mason, Northern Illinois, Bucknell, St. Bonaventure, Saint Louis, Long Beach State, and Colgate.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 30, 2021 13:46:27 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 30, 2021 13:42:22 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 30, 2021 13:38:53 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 30, 2021 13:02:39 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 30, 2021 11:03:51 GMT -5
Syracuse - home game Gavitt Tipoff Games - home or away game against a Big Ten team (hopefully the Hoyas aren't on bye this year) Big East–Big 12 Battle - home or away game against a Big 12 team (likely away since the Hoyas played WVU at home this season)
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 29, 2021 22:54:47 GMT -5
Point being: to me, Georgetown's competitive advantage lies in areas other than STEM... and that's ok. I see no compelling need - a desire for balance or otherwise - that requires the university to create an engineering program from scratch or to make the student body more STEM-focused. I think there's a middle ground here as it pertains to Amazon creating an H2 in Crystal City - Amazon probably doesn't need engineering students. Amazon isn't going to be building chipsets or making semiconductors in Crystal City - you don't need to have an EE or Computer Engineering or Mechanical Engineering program to take advantage of them creating a bunch of jobs there, opportunities for research, and possible internships for your students. Georgetown has had a Computer Science program for like 40 years. Maybe fund that a little bit more? As one of the 7 computer science majors in my graduating class at Georgetown, I agree.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 29, 2021 20:08:43 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 29, 2021 16:18:59 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 29, 2021 13:15:18 GMT -5
Something to keep in mind, last year one of the "unconfirmed" transfer targets ended up being Chudier Bile. So that list is meaningful to keep tracking along with the "confirmed" transfer targets.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 29, 2021 13:11:03 GMT -5
However it would save the team a scholarship for next year if you use skip the medical redshirt and use the COVID exemption instead. I guess unless you know the player wants to hang around for a sixth year after next season. Yeah I agree it helps the school if the hypothetical player gives up a year of eligibility to be considered a 5th year player next year. Your previous post said there would be no reason to apply for the medical waiver. I was showing that there is a reason that benefits the student athlete to apply for the medical waiver.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 29, 2021 12:14:04 GMT -5
This doesn't apply to Carey since he did not have a medical redshirt, but a theoretical question - a school has to apply for a medical redshirt to get a player an extra year of eligibility. So if a senior or grad senior was injured this year and would otherwise qualify for a medical, but the school did not apply, that player could instead just use the COVID waiver and not count against the scholarship limit, right? In fact there would be no reason to apply for the medical waiver. The reason to apply for a medical waiver in that theoretical situation would be to preserve an extra year of eligibility for the student athlete if they wanted it.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 29, 2021 10:46:46 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 29, 2021 8:28:22 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads up on the mention. I had mentioned to whipple last summer that Trey Mourning had likely given up his scholarship for Bradley Hayes based on the work RockawayHoya and I did to reverse engineer Georgetown's APR scores to see how close Georgetown was to being penalized. (short answer, Georgetown's APR was really bad going into this past season, and the Hoyas are probably lucky that the NCAA suspended APR penalties because of COVID) The only way this theory could work is if Don Carey claimed that he used up a year of eligibility during his year in residence after transferring from Mount St Mary's to Siena. I don't believe he could actually make that claim based on NCAA transfer rules. There is no such thing as a COVID bonus. Every current player gets 5 playing years. If next year is the player's 5th and the player stays on their current team, the player won't count against the scholarship limit. Carey came to Georgetown with 2 years of eligibility left as a grad transfer. Correct, that's why I was trying to debunk the theory that Carey could claim he's using his 5th year next year.
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