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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 5, 2007 21:37:53 GMT -5
haha that quote from k state is hilarious. It sounds like he just got broken up with hahaha.
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Post by Filo on Apr 5, 2007 21:40:04 GMT -5
I am completely amazed. One year. ONE YEAR at K-State! What a classless tool.
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Post by WVHoyasfan on Apr 5, 2007 23:31:40 GMT -5
he's the WHITE TRASH of CBB
Wow rdf,thats kind of harsh don't you think??
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Post by SSHoya on Apr 6, 2007 7:56:38 GMT -5
Shed no tears for K-State -- didn't they know who they were getting when they hired him?
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Post by Admin on Apr 6, 2007 7:58:15 GMT -5
Just as an aside, why is the title that Huggins is "back" in the Big East? He was never in the Big East as a player or as a coach, since both WV and UC were not members of the conference at that time.
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Post by stafford72 on Apr 6, 2007 8:19:58 GMT -5
Those that live in glass houses should not throw stones. When we recruit players that graduate from a high school in someone's garage, well-intentioned or not, let's keep our own house clean rather than cast aspersions at others, particularly large State schools that do not have trditionally high graduation rates. Why is everyone so anti-Huggins? He has proven his ability to coach and recruit. He is returning to his home State and alma mater. Many others have done the same. It is not his fault that the West Virginai job opened up after only one year at Kansas State. Big East fans should be pleased that while losing a great coach who helped raise the West Virginia program, the league is acquiring another big name coach that will keep the program at the top. He will adjust his recruiting to the venue within he resides. He doesn't need to go the juco route at West Virginia. The facilities and Big East wil help him get some top recruits. Sports is about entertainment and Bob Huggins is entertaining, both off and on the court. Enough with the holier-than-thou bull.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Apr 6, 2007 9:59:31 GMT -5
Those that live in glass houses should not throw stones. When we recruit players that graduate from a high school in someone's garage, well-intentioned or not, let's keep our own house clean rather than cast aspersions at others, particularly large State schools that do not have trditionally high graduation rates. With us, it's an exception. With Huggins, it's a modus operandi. Why is everyone so anti-Huggins? He has proven his ability to coach and recruit. Well, let's see. On a personal level, he's a mean drunk, and a drunk driver at that. On a program level, he made Cincinnati the most hated program in the country, according to a Sports Illustrated poll. And then there's the players he gets (and gets off the hook with the law, once they get in trouble). One, two, even three players in trouble is one thing. But when you can come up with a grocery list (Donald Little, Art Long, Armein Kirkland, Eric Hicks, Dontono Wingfield, Shawn Myrick, Robert Whaley) without having to think too hard, I think it's a pretty good indicator of the way a program is being run. He is returning to his home State and alma mater. Many others have done the same. It is not his fault that the West Virginai job opened up after only one year at Kansas State. This is sort of like saying "He is returning to his high school sweetheart. Many others have done the same. It is not his fault that his sweetheart got divorced a year after he got married. I mean, sure, you CAN dump the person/institution to whom you have made a commitment, but I don't think it's unfair to say that it makes you look bad. He will adjust his recruiting to the venue within he resides. He doesn't need to go the juco route at West Virginia. The facilities and Big East wil help him get some top recruits. This would make more sense if Bielein wasn't running away from WVU at warp speed because he couldn't recruit players to Morgantown. Sports is about entertainment and Bob Huggins is entertaining, both off and on the court. I think it's safe to say that there are a lot of "entertaining" figures who I wouldn't want to be within 100 miles of Georgetown's basketball program or even in the Big East.
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Post by hoyarooter on Apr 6, 2007 13:12:21 GMT -5
Huggins is a slime bucket who doesn't appear to care a rat's patoot about whether his players graduate or not. I'm willing to cut him a certain amount of slack because he is returning to his alma mater, but he really stuck it to K State, which gave him a chance to get back into big time college basketball.
Also, I will be shocked if he doesn't bring Beasley along. Not so sure about Walker. That would only make sense if he is going to miss next season anyway due to his injury.
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Post by theexorcist on Apr 6, 2007 14:27:12 GMT -5
On a selfish personal note, I truly hope that WVU plays at Georgetown this year.
The Rival Reel is already playing through my mind, and it's a doozy....
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Post by aggypryd on Apr 6, 2007 14:34:14 GMT -5
On the court, I LOVE Huggie...
Off the court, you gotta do better, my friend. Gotta get those boys in class and you gotta lay off the sauce.
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Post by bubbrubbhoya on Apr 6, 2007 14:37:53 GMT -5
Pat Forde just said, "Bob Huggins just disgraced his entire profession with what he did," or something along those lines on OTL: First Report. Bob Ley just let that one stand...hilarious!
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Post by hifigator on Apr 6, 2007 15:02:00 GMT -5
Shed no tears for K-State -- didn't they know who they were getting when they hired him? I never really thought about it that way in his case. How long was he at Cincy? He was there a while right? I understand the incentive since it was his alma-mater, and I wouldn't hold that aspect against anyone. But still, I just don't think it is right to leave after one friggin year under almost any circumstance short of family emergency/health issues. That is just wrong. He goes out and brings in a good class last year and then has another solid class filled with letters of intent. Now I think those guys can back out if they aren't already enrolled, but his first year guys are jammed up. They are stuck in friggin Manhattan, Kansas in all likelihood without the one and only reason they went there in the first place. Getting back to your comment about them (K St.) knowing what they were getting into, that reminds me of a point Cowherd made several months back. I know how much you all "love" Colin, but I think you would at least admit that he made a good point on this one. In discussion about Larry Brown, his point was very clear that you can't feel sorry for the team because they knew exactly what they were getting when they hired him. He likened it to the "dog" who cheats on his girlfriend and then the "new" girl that he's with complaining that he is cheating on her down the road. She knew what he was like. She was the one he was cheating with in the first place, so how in the hell are we supposed to feel sorry for her now that he is merely doing what she already knew that he does? Basically, to use a couple of cliche's: it's a two way street and you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Incidentally, what is it in Huggins' background that would point to behavior like this? I know that he "mysteriously" seems to have stellar recruiting classes at ... shall we say, "odd" times. But as far as this issue goes. I hadn't really thought of him in this regard.
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Post by hifigator on Apr 6, 2007 15:04:19 GMT -5
Shed no tears for K-State -- didn't they know who they were getting when they hired him? I never really thought about it that way in his case. How long was he at Cincy? He was there a while right? I understand the incentive since it was his alma-mater, and I wouldn't hold that aspect against anyone. But still, I just don't think it is right to leave after one friggin year under almost any circumstance short of family emergency/health issues. That is just wrong. He goes out and brings in a good class last year and then has another solid class filled with letters of intent. Now I think those guys can back out if they aren't already enrolled, but his first year guys are jammed up. They are stuck in friggin Manhattan, Kansas in all likelihood without the one and only reason they went there in the first place. Getting back to your comment about them (K St.) knowing what they were getting into, that reminds me of a point Cowherd made several months back. I know how much you all "love" Colin, but I think you would at least admit that he made a good point on this one. In discussion about Larry Brown, his point was very clear that you can't feel sorry for the team because they knew exactly what they were getting when they hired him. He likened it to the "dog" who cheats on his girlfriend and then the "new" girl that he's with complaining that he is cheating on her down the road. She knew what he was like. She was the one he was cheating with in the first place, so how in the hell are we supposed to feel sorry for her now that he is merely doing what she already knew that he does? Basically, to use a couple of cliche's: it's a two way street and you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Incidentally, what is it in Huggins' background that would point to behavior like this? I know that he "mysteriously" seems to have stellar recruiting classes at ... shall we say, "odd" times. But as far as this issue goes. I hadn't really thought of him in this regard.
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Post by afalcon10 on Apr 6, 2007 15:39:19 GMT -5
There is no doubt that Huggins will bring great players to a great program in the Big East.
I could not be more excited for the league.
Beilein did a a lot, with essentially nothing. Huggins will do even more simply because of his name in recruitng. Players want to play for huggy bear (a la bob knight). He will hopefully help the Big East rise to its expected (at the time of the cusa merge) as the best basketball conference in the country - hands down.
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Post by EasyEd on Apr 6, 2007 15:46:28 GMT -5
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Post by hifigator on Apr 6, 2007 15:54:25 GMT -5
There is no doubt that Huggins will bring great players to a great program in the Big East. I could not be more excited for the league. Beilein did a a lot, with essentially nothing. Huggins will do even more simply because of his name in recruitng. Players want to play for huggy bear (a la bob knight). He will hopefully help the Big East rise to its expected (at the time of the cusa merge) as the best basketball conference in the country - hands down. Interesting that you use analagous reference to Knight. From my perspective, it has been a long time since Bobby was consistently getting the best players. I think too many kids don't want to play under that high itensity and discipline style coach. In my mind that makes him an even better coach since what he accomplishes, he pretty much does with less talent. I admit that his name recognition gives him a "foot in the door" so to speak, but still, I think it has been quite a while since he was signing the top talent. By comparison, Huggins is more of the Roy Williams or Billy Donovan mold in that he really seems to draw top talent to him.
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Post by vcjack on Apr 6, 2007 16:11:20 GMT -5
This is going to make the West Virginia game even more fun to watchy the yoakles try and spin us as thugs for Pat's brush when Beasley has the potential move into the Devandorf cattegory of player
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Apr 6, 2007 16:41:35 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 6, 2007 19:26:44 GMT -5
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