casualhoya
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Post by casualhoya on Feb 26, 2007 10:16:19 GMT -5
Call me crazy, but I really don't think a loss tonight would be a bad thing. We can still win the regular season title with a win on saturday, set our sights on the BET title at MSG the following saturday and of course the whopper on April 2nd. But there's something I don't like about entering the Dance on a 16-game winning streak. It's casual, but there's something about it that I just don't like.
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MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Feb 26, 2007 10:22:25 GMT -5
Screw that! I'd rather lose to UConn than the Cuse tonight. Nothing is wrong with a winning streak.
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hoyasexy
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Post by hoyasexy on Feb 26, 2007 10:23:54 GMT -5
Nothing bad can come from winning.
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HoyaFanNY
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Feb 26, 2007 10:23:59 GMT -5
CRAZY
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Post by dajuan on Feb 26, 2007 10:28:29 GMT -5
Casually, I understand your point. It's a strange feeling.
But then again, why not just win every game? I like Hoyasexy's thoughts too.
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Post by HeartAttackHoya on Feb 26, 2007 10:31:06 GMT -5
Lose to Syracuse not a bad thing? I'm really confused..
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Filo
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Post by Filo on Feb 26, 2007 10:32:24 GMT -5
A loss tonight would be a bad thing because it is against Syracuse. No more needs to be said.
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edstimes
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Post by edstimes on Feb 26, 2007 10:33:33 GMT -5
Call me crazy, but I really don't think a loss tonight would be a bad thing. We can still win the regular season title with a win on saturday, set our sights on the BET title at MSG the following saturday and of course the whopper on April 2nd. But there's something I don't like about entering the Dance on a 16-game winning streak. It's casual, but there's something about it that I just don't like. Juvenile, thoughtless post. May warrant suspension of posting privileges **
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 26, 2007 10:36:29 GMT -5
NO!!! NO!!! NO!!! NO!!! Have I made myself clear? Any thoughts like this in the future will be met with the most severe reprecussions.
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VelvetElvis
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Post by VelvetElvis on Feb 26, 2007 10:36:34 GMT -5
CasualHoya pulled a super-casual same-day in-and-out on Saturday. It was nice to see him beat me to Clyde's. It was also nice to see him enjoying mimosas while I was making the mistake of jump-starting my 11 am entrance with a shot of Jameson!
As for his post? Crazy-talk. stick to posting about gambling.
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hoyatables
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Post by hoyatables on Feb 26, 2007 10:41:36 GMT -5
Casual, I had the same thought as you. See, I want a 9 game winning streak in March--I think we can do it with the talent and desire and heart and fire that we have. And I really want a win at home versus UConn, so I guess I really want a 10 game winning streak in March. Somehow that just seems a whole lot less likely if we're going into it with a 12 game winning streak.
That said, CRUSH THE ORANGE!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2007 10:42:00 GMT -5
Call me crazy, but I really don't think a loss tonight would be a bad thing. We can still win the regular season title with a win on saturday, set our sights on the BET title at MSG the following saturday and of course the whopper on April 2nd. But there's something I don't like about entering the Dance on a 16-game winning streak. It's casual, but there's something about it that I just don't like. Hi Crazy!! (just kidding) I don't know where I saw it, but but during one of the many NCAA games I saw this weekend, there was a list of NCAA champs whose title was a continuation of a long win streak. Quite a few of them including Florida. IMHO it is always better to win.
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casualhoya
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Post by casualhoya on Feb 26, 2007 10:48:06 GMT -5
set a new record on saturday night:
119 minutes door-to-door from Clyde's to my apartment in midtown west.
real casual.
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Hoya50
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Post by Hoya50 on Feb 26, 2007 10:51:18 GMT -5
that information was posted during the osu/wisconsin game yesterday. the last 5 ncaa champions either had long winning streaks or posted one loss in a large number of games to end the season .
if the hoyas were like memphis, beating up weaker teams in a sub-standard conference, then i'd be concerned about the lack of focus. however, the hoyas are beating quality teams at home and on the road. they've also won some close games as of late. i'm confident the coaching staff has this team prepared for the greater task at hand.
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Post by VictorSkyPage on Feb 26, 2007 10:56:00 GMT -5
I don't know where I saw it, but but during one of the many NCAA games I saw this weekend, there was a list of NCAA champs whose title was a continuation of a long win streak. Quite a few of them including Florida. IMHO it is always better to win.[/quote] The thing about florida is they lost a couple in a row right around this time last year.. that winning streak of 11 was including the SEC and NCAA tourney.. I would be somewhat scared going INTO THE TOURNEY with such a long streak (Morpheus is a hell of a coach and he will keep the kids hungry and grounded, but the law of averages has to come into play at some point - so I understand Casual's point).. that being said, I don't ever want the Hoyas to lose, but if it had to happen - I'd much rather it happen to UConn than the Cuse
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 26, 2007 11:01:41 GMT -5
Aside from the pressure a huge winning streak might put on a team, or the sense of complacency a team might get, people do realize that the "law of averages" doesn't work that way, right?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2007 11:04:49 GMT -5
Aside from the pressure a huge winning streak might put on a team, or the sense of complacency a team might get, people do realize that the "law of averages" doesn't work that way, right? I really think there is no pressure from the streak, and any pressure that is there will be gone come Saturday no matter what. Once the regular season ends, the next goal is to win the BET. And once that ends, it's to win a National Championship. Period. Keep winning, guys. It's a heck of a lot more fun than losing.
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Post by VictorSkyPage on Feb 26, 2007 11:16:51 GMT -5
the pressure would be my main reason for disliking having such a long W streak going into the tourney, and I usually use the law of averages thing pretty loosely..
In my case I know I'm probably partaking in the Gambler's fallacy (being that technically these games are not "fair" in the sense that the Hoyas could just be flat out better than every other team they play, thus it wouldn't be like flipping a coin) and there is no sure way of saying, "well, the more games we win in a row, the better the chances are for us to lose the next one"...
but I just think sooner or later a team is bound to take an L... it is not normal for a team to win 10 games in a row, never mind 20+... I can hope and believe that the Hoyas can do it, but part of me that isn't an idealist says that we will suffer a loss sooner or later, and I would rather it be sooner
either way.. GO HOYAS -- make some history
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Post by FOTP on Feb 26, 2007 11:18:00 GMT -5
This losing idea is insane. Nothing wrong with winning and adding to the mystique of the Hoyas. I want fear in the eyes of our opponents. Maybe with a different set of players
Wanna bet Green, Roy and Wallace are reminding the team about the loss to Cuse last year in teh Big East semi's. Or the fact that clinching the BE on the Syr. home floor would be awesome.
Both teams had physical blood bath games on Saturday and have little time to prepare.
I like JTIII over anyone to prepare quickly.
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GIGAFAN99
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 26, 2007 11:21:15 GMT -5
Aside from the pressure a huge winning streak might put on a team, or the sense of complacency a team might get, people do realize that the "law of averages" doesn't work that way, right? Well said SF. This is exactly why this is stupid. It's hard to win a lot of games consecutively versus good teams just because it's difficult to do, not because of complacency or pressure. If you go 20-1 to end the year and that one is in the conference final everyone says you "refocused." If you do it in the Elite Eight, everyone says it was "the pressure of expectations." Hey folks, it's the SAME THING. The timing of that one loss just changed but nothing else changed. There is more similar about the 1995 UCLA team that won out its last 19 to finish 31-2 and the 1996 Kentucky team that lost in the SEC final but finished 34-2. Namely, they were probably at least a pick in every one of their games because they were really good and almost always a heavy favorite over even good teams. So this "we need to lose" is nonsense. Indiana didn't need to lose at all in 1976, UNLV apparently did in 1991. Actually they just lost to another good team in the Final Four by 2 points. Indiana didn't. That's the difference in their seasons, not some "pressure" or other voodoo reason.
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