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Post by LizziebethHoya on Feb 21, 2007 0:42:51 GMT -5
Hoya Blue is not getting tickets.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Feb 21, 2007 9:20:53 GMT -5
Hoya Blue is not getting tickets. Nice to see that the Athletic Department really appreciates the hundreds of man-hours that the school's most dedicated fans have put into supporting Georgetown athletics.
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Post by mdhoya97 on Feb 21, 2007 10:55:07 GMT -5
Does School have tickets for people in the hoya hoop club? -M
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2007 10:57:38 GMT -5
Does School have tickets for people in the hoya hoop club? -M Yup - but unless you're one of the larger donors (by dollar amount, not height or weight), you're not likely to get them.
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Post by GUHoya07 on Feb 21, 2007 11:10:50 GMT -5
does anybody have any idea how many student tickets are going to be available? i know last year it was like under 50 or so, im assuming it will probably be the same this year, but does anybody have a better idea? Do you mean before or after the hoya blue takes a big chunk of them? I'm sick of this kind of mentality. First off, Hoya Blue is not being given tickets this year. However, I think the many people that work hard all year promoting the basketball program and putting in hundreds of hours of work to sell tickets, shirts, increase spirit and so on deserve some rewards. I'm overjoyed to see the kind of buzz there is on campus now, but we've been working to create this long before we were a top 25 team and now all of sudden everyone jumps on the bandwagon and we have to hear criticism from people like you who feel cheated if the most dedicated and loyal fans have some tickets reserved for them. I can understand the dissapointment in not being able to get tickets easily, but don't blame the people that are most dedicated to the program, blame the Big East for only providing each school with under 100 total student tickets (which includes the band).
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Post by RBHoya on Feb 21, 2007 11:33:26 GMT -5
Not to mention that Hoya Blue works pro bono for the AD and nets them near 6 figures in revenue from student ticket sales. That's a lot of money that we help bring in, and they don't have to pay us as employees, so it's straight profit for them.
I understand people's frustration due to the scarcity of tickets, but there is certainly grounds for the athletic department giving privileges to a group that does a heavy portion of the overall promotions work for non-revenue sports and that facilitates development of revenue streams for no charge as Hoya Blue does. It's irrelevant at this point because HB isn't getting a chance to purchase advanced tickets, but I find it pretty hard to make a strong argument against it if they did. It'd be like if a hoop club alum who donates $25 complained that a hoop club alum that donated $10,000 gets preferential treatment in getting their tickets. The more you do to help the program, the more the program will help you when it comes to ticket time--at least in theory.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 21, 2007 11:43:54 GMT -5
While I think HB should get some of the BE tickets -- no disagreement there -- there is one thing I have to comment on.
I'm not sure what the student seats are worth to Verizon if the lease were to be renegotiated without the University taking them. Certainly not a ton -- since we don't sell out often, I doubt Verizon wants a lot more seats to sell.
That said, because they are floor and not 400, they are worth something. While the University did grab close to a quarter million in student ticket sales revenue, I doubt there is much of a real profit there.
Which is fine. We have a team primarily for the students. I'm not trying to belittle HB's great accomplishments. Just wanted to point out that there probably isn't a huge amount of real economic profit on student tickets.
Course, if no students went at all, we'd be losing money, so that's good.
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Post by Hoya50 on Feb 21, 2007 12:02:52 GMT -5
I was always under the impression that it isn't scalping if the price paid for the ticket was at face value or below...I've purchased numerous tickets inside and right in front of the Garden with no police altercation. it isn't. i believe new york state law is 10% above face value is the legal purchase price. when questioned by the police what we were doing, the scalper says "i was giving them directions". oy.
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Post by hoyablu on Feb 21, 2007 12:25:40 GMT -5
I was wondering how it's been in the past regarding the ticket sales line. Last year, were people camping out the night before? Or does everyone just lineup in the morning?
Thanks.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Feb 21, 2007 12:36:55 GMT -5
last year i think people just lined up early in the morning, but were talking real early. Like if you got there at 7 you were out of luck. But that's jsut conjecture and hersey.
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Post by hoyas2008 on Feb 21, 2007 12:46:49 GMT -5
I got there 1 1/2 - 2 hrs early last year, and the line was already substantially longer than the number of tickets they have. Camping out is the way to go if you need tickets and dont have class on friday. I guess if you do have class on friday morning, like me, you are just out of luck.
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Post by hoyablu on Feb 21, 2007 12:48:12 GMT -5
And that was for an unranked G'town team at the time last year, wasn't it? Seems like people will be camping out for this team.
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Post by vcjack on Feb 21, 2007 12:48:28 GMT -5
I got there 1 1/2 - 2 hrs early last year, and the line was already substantially longer than the number of tickets they have. Camping out is the way to go if you need tickets and dont have class on friday. I guess if you do have class on friday morning, like me, you are just out of luck. But its a good thing that our Athletic Department sells them at a time that incourages skipping class
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 21, 2007 12:54:19 GMT -5
I got there 1 1/2 - 2 hrs early last year, and the line was already substantially longer than the number of tickets they have. Camping out is the way to go if you need tickets and dont have class on friday. I guess if you do have class on friday morning, like me, you are just out of luck. But its a good thing that our Athletic Department sells them at a time that incourages skipping class You know, the Athletic Department may be on campus, but that doesn't mean it operates on college hours. I don't think it's unreasonable for them to sell titckets during normal business hours (9am-5pm) especially considering that they also have to work a lot of night/weekend games. And it's not like you wouldn't have to line up all day if the tickets were on sale in the evening.
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Post by FLHoya on Feb 21, 2007 13:18:24 GMT -5
And it's not like you wouldn't have to line up all day if the tickets were on sale in the evening. Point for the old guy! Man, when I was at GU only a few years ago, you couldn't give these things away...
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Post by mikeylikesit on Feb 21, 2007 13:27:55 GMT -5
wow, if people are really planning on camping out, i guess it's scalping for me.
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Post by dajuan on Feb 21, 2007 13:37:36 GMT -5
Great post SFHoya - it's odd that Hoya Blue acts like it's entirely selfless in its "pro-bono" work supporting the Hoyas, but as soon as it doesn't get something it wants, people say that Hoya Blue deserves more than it gets. The whole argument rings hollow to me.
I've never participated in anything directly associated with Hoya Blue, but I'm still a big fan of the team and support it the best that I know how.
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Post by RBHoya on Feb 21, 2007 13:53:14 GMT -5
Great post SFHoya - it's odd that Hoya Blue acts like it's entirely selfless in its "pro-bono" work supporting the Hoyas, but as soon as it doesn't get something it wants, people say that Hoya Blue deserves more than it gets. The whole argument rings hollow to me. I've never participated in anything directly associated with Hoya Blue, but I'm still a big fan of the team and support it the best that I know how. I'm not even entirely sure what you're getting at, but the reason that Hoya Blue does what it does is simply because we believe in supporting the athletics programs. That's the principle that the group is founded upon, and that's the interest being acted upon in the clubs activities. Being selfless/selfish doesn't enter into the equation at all. As for SFs point, I agree, and the point wasn't that student ticket sales are some great profit-generating outlet, rather that unsold tickets are a loss and that we help guard against that. As with anything else related to Georgetown's financial state, not losing is a win. The tickets, at this point, pretty much sell themselves, but Hoya Blue works venues (like NSO move-in, pep rally, late night at leavey, etc) that AD employees wouldn't work, and we have a much more aggressive sales pitch. Thus the athletic department gets superior output for a mathematically incalculable fraction of the cost (whatever the AD employees make vs. 0). If anyone else has any qualms with Hoya Blue's business model that they'd like to discuss, I'd be more than happy to oblige via PM. I don't want this thread to become another debate over the merits of Hoya Blue like last year though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2007 14:01:04 GMT -5
But its a good thing that our Athletic Department sells them at a time that incourages skipping class And with spelling like that, you definitely shouldn't be skipping any classes
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Post by Cambridge on Feb 21, 2007 14:57:40 GMT -5
Do you mean before or after the hoya blue takes a big chunk of them? I'm sick of this kind of mentality. First off, Hoya Blue is not being given tickets this year. However, I think the many people that work hard all year promoting the basketball program and putting in hundreds of hours of work to sell tickets, shirts, increase spirit and so on deserve some rewards. I'm overjoyed to see the kind of buzz there is on campus now, but we've been working to create this long before we were a top 25 team and now all of sudden everyone jumps on the bandwagon and we have to hear criticism from people like you who feel cheated if the most dedicated and loyal fans have some tickets reserved for them. I can understand the dissapointment in not being able to get tickets easily, but don't blame the people that are most dedicated to the program, blame the Big East for only providing each school with under 100 total student tickets (which includes the band). Remember folks...he's on a "whole 'nother level." I kid, I kid...seriously 007, it was too easy.
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