GUHoya07
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Post by GUHoya07 on Apr 16, 2004 15:26:57 GMT -5
just got this in my email:
First off, just wanted to share the latest news on the basketball coaching front. Word has it that John Thompson III will be announced as the new head coach at tonight's basketball banquet. Pretty solid pick all around, most people seem to think. He's got head coaching experience at the D1 level (Princeton), and he knows how to balance athletic excellence (perenial conference champs) with high academic standards (it was Princeton after all). Plus, the Thompson name should do good things for fundraising and hopefully even recruiting. We'll see.
Don't know why they felt the need to send this out before we actually hear official word.
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KHoyaNYC
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Apr 16, 2004 15:28:00 GMT -5
Great to hear - thanks fro the update - did this come from an e-mail?
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Apr 16, 2004 15:29:56 GMT -5
sorry didn't read carefully the first time through. Aagin, great news and a great fit!
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Apr 16, 2004 15:31:09 GMT -5
GU2007... I doubt the veracity of this stuff because I don't believe that anyone knows what is going on except the Search Committee and Lang/DeGioia.
If you are indeed correct (or if your info is correct), this would be a huge coup in the sense that they could keep it secret for this long. I cannot help but think that, if they have hired him, they have notified members of the press and have embargoed the press release to prevent pre-release of the information.
Anyway, if you are going to the banquet, have a good time. I would imagine that there will be a buzz in the room one way or another.
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YB
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Post by YB on Apr 16, 2004 15:31:48 GMT -5
Well, as of earlier this week, this kind of thing did not seem likely in terms of announcing it at the Banquet. But if it is announced there I'm sure glad I shelled out to go this year!!!
Seriously, tho, I still think it'll be next week though it may be JT3.
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kghoya
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Post by kghoya on Apr 16, 2004 15:34:31 GMT -5
i hope it works out...but id love to get somebody outside the "family"
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GUHoya07
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Post by GUHoya07 on Apr 16, 2004 15:34:39 GMT -5
This isn't my info at all. I just got an email about it that got sent out to the entire Hoya Blue mailing list, it isn't any kind of special board information and I have nothing to do with it. I just thought people would be interested in seeing the email.
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SaxaCD
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Post by SaxaCD on Apr 16, 2004 15:35:20 GMT -5
From what i've heard from people who've asked others pretty high up at GU (just today), no announcement will be made tonight, so it will be interesting to hear what actually happens.
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Post by OklaHoya2006 on Apr 16, 2004 15:40:31 GMT -5
I have the same e-mail as GUHOYA2007. Other factors on campus lead me to believe that this is true - but most of my evidence there is not completely verifiable.
I'd like to stress again that this is not first hand info that I can verify to 100% certainty, so take it for what you will - but the rumor has certainly circulated on-campus, so I certainly hope that the dinner tonight clears some of that up.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Apr 16, 2004 15:43:21 GMT -5
This isn't my info at all. I just got an email about it that got sent out to the entire Hoya Blue mailing list, it isn't any kind of special board information and I have nothing to do with it. I just thought people would be interested in seeing the email. Yeah... I didn't mean to insinuate that, but I wasn't clear on that until you edited your original post. Thanks for putting the info up on here.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 16, 2004 16:16:42 GMT -5
i hope it works out...but id love to get somebody outside the "family" KG, keep in mind that Thompson, as a coach, is more Princeton family than GU family. He may have picked up many things from his father, but he never played for him in a formal setting and has been a Carrill disciple if he's anyone's.
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MEGAFAN
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Post by MEGAFAN on Apr 16, 2004 16:21:28 GMT -5
If that's the email Hoya Blue is sending out, it sounds like they haven't grown much beyond their lackluster beginnings, when I was a student there.
This email should have a far more excited tone concerning the hiring of JT III. It should try to inject enthusiasm and a notion of re-birth into the program. Hoya Blue doesn't have to make it sound official and bland like Sports Information does, so they should take the opportunity to really celebrate!
Rather, it matter-of-factly states the biggest news in some time for Hoya basketball. It then goes on to call the hiring of JT III solid. I mean, I know that there is some debate over whether JT III is the best candidate, but how can you be anything less than ecstatic over this news.
Come on HOYA BLUE! You're supposed to be the fuel behind the fire, the people in charge of rallying the troops. Where's the "bleeding of Hoya blue" I expect from you. I want a link to a website with a video or flash animation, and something like that Braveheart rally call that they play on the jumbotrons, with JT III in Gibson's place! Come on, be creative, imaginative! Think of something big that recognizes this as the beginning of a new and successful chapter in the history of HOYA hoops.
I think MEGAFAN has more enthusiasm in a comatose state then the collective passion of Hoya Blue, or at least that's how it comes across in that email.
With all that said, while I really want/expect JT III to be named the next coach, I'm waiting for official notice before I start celebrating.
In the mean time, I just got great seats to the Yankees-Redsox game, and will have to settle for celebrating the first of many Yankees victories over Boston while I await the confirmation of this HUGE GREAT PENDING COACHING NEWS!
HIRE JT III! GO HOYAS!!!
(Go Yankees! Go Knicks!)
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SaxaCD
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Post by SaxaCD on Apr 16, 2004 16:22:52 GMT -5
I think that's a very good point -- I'd rather make a break from some of the offense non-philosophy stuff than merely a break from a name. If JT3 does end up being the guy, the thing I think is most positive is that he's still in the process of refining his own style of play, which is a hybrid of Carrill's system and other more "conventional" stuff, along with hard-nosed man to man D. He's his own man, but has played for and coached with a few excellent X's and O's guys -- and that's a quality we've needed at GU for a while now.
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Post by FLHoya on Apr 16, 2004 16:32:50 GMT -5
I've been gone most of the day and I've yet to read the HB email since getting back on campus, but I'm sure I've got it in my inbox.
I'd take the info with a grain of...no, how about a big ole' salt-lick sized piece of salt. Not because I have any way of varifying whether or not it's true. Just my experience with HB emails.
Keep in mind the email contains no new information, and in fact merely states that "word has it" that JT3 so on and so forth...now, that could mean that the author or a member has in fact been privy to a rumor of said nature floating around campus, OR, that he read the quick-censored post from our friend from Chicago from the previous evening and ran with the story.
I will say as a matter of "historical" perspective that during the evening of the Esherick firing, HB did something similar with an email, and I am under the impression that they did in fact have a source on that. Whether that was an actual player/insider, or someone followed the "Tutor blows the story in a lecture class about the players meeting" storyline up, I don't know. But they pretty much got the scoop at the same time it hit the message boards. So maybe they're on to something.
Now, of course this JT3 Surprise could turn out to be going down, and the prospect certainly makes for an interesting banquet to those who are going to attend (I'm gonna settle for Chipotle and the Braves-Marlins opener). I admit I've been thinking about that possibility today with some seriousness.
However, let's not treat the fact that Hoya Blue has sent out an email as proof positive. If anything, it's merely confirming the existence of a rumor some on this board saw as early as midnight last night. We have no way short of talking to the author of knowing whether he/she/it has a further source.
I feel the same way hearing/reading the copied email as I did when I informed my roommate of the original posted rumor last night. Just a rumor, not a new one this time.
I am curious to see the rest of the email to see if HB's involved in promoting that trip to the GU-ND baseball game this weekend.
--FLHoya--
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GUHoya07
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Post by GUHoya07 on Apr 16, 2004 16:37:49 GMT -5
I think all he mentioned in the rest of the email was SaxaPalooza
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Apr 16, 2004 17:09:54 GMT -5
Anybody going to the banquet, take good notes!
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CAHoya07
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Post by CAHoya07 on Apr 16, 2004 20:48:20 GMT -5
i hate hoya blue, what a bunch of bums
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Post by CAHoya07 on Apr 16, 2004 20:49:21 GMT -5
we need a REAL student spirit club, not a bunch of hobos with fingers in their [edited]
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FLHoya
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Post by FLHoya on Apr 17, 2004 1:12:31 GMT -5
I understand the frustration with Hoya Blue over the course of the year(s?). In this case, I do believe that the email's author, in his haste to present the membership with some kind of "scoop", probably read information from this board, or talked to someone who pedalled similar info (maybe even second hand from the board). Then he wrote a "word has it" email that only served to give a rumor more credibility that in the end turned out to be untrue, at least regarding the timing of the announcement. So Hoya Blue, or at least their writer, has the ole' egg on the face on this one.
This is a trend that began with the Esherick-firing night emails, first presented as a "scoop" and w/ a similar semi-editorial comment about the decision. Personally, moreso than the rumors themselves, on which HB is batting .500 right now, the fact that the author feels the need to throw in his personal .02 is kind of off-putting to me in a weird way. Thanks, but just tell me the news or rumor, not how to think about it.
HB seems to be taking a much more aggressive posture regarding news about the team now with the coaching situation in flux. I think it's a combination of them being so excited Esherick was fired and them trying to find a way to channel the energy and attention the student body has toward the team now. But posting rumors (which proves they read Hoyatalk, which is a plus of course) off the internet or the latest rumor from ICC isn't really the best use of their time,
(FL Note: I saved those Esherick firing night emails from HB for my summer columns but I can't find them at the moment. If I do I might re-post some excerpts here.)
Now, to CAHoya07 personally, but others generally, the answer to the problem of Hoya Blue is to try to be part of the solution yourself. I'm not saying run out and put in to be on their board, secret I-got-to-plan-Midnight Madness-I have-a-black-shirt-and-you-don't club, or whatever.
But if you have substantive things to add to Hoya Blue, whether it's promotion ideas, event ideas, yourself to a football game crowd, don't be afraid. You obviously were a freshman this year (or like the number 07), so you're probably extra-aware of how important reaching out to new fans w/ promos and information about the teams is. why not take some time yourself next year to talk to some new HB members, flyer Village C like I did my first year, etc.
I know at least your classmate "007" is going to be on the board of HB next year, and he's got his head on straight and I'm sure would listen and actively try to promote anything that got the students together on promoting the team.
The SINGLE biggest thing to fix w/ Hoya Blue is getting ALL of the students involved. Not just a small elite Board that gets to have lunch with Coach Fill-in-the-Blank and cookies and milk with Sports Promo.
Get students excited about the teams early on, make them feel like they're important to the team and that they MATTER and can help promote the team, and they will. Sports promo can only do so much, but one kid with color copies of a creative ad for a football/b-ball/lax game and a roll of tape in Harbin can do more than you think.
Keep spending your time writing "this just in" emails on whether JT3's gonna pop out of a giant birthday cake in Leavey...that does no good.
I hope we get out there as a group starting next August.
P.S. If you ARE a current student and you have ideas for what you'd like to see improved in Hoya Blue, of course don't be afraid to tell them, but you can also email or do a personal message to my board thing. I am spending a column this summer in a series (I hope) talking about improving Hoya Blue, and if I see there's a theme developing in how current students feel, I will certainly focus on it.
--FLHoya--
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Post by RaleighHoya on Apr 17, 2004 8:29:12 GMT -5
Hoya Blue just lost any credibility on campus they had, which from what I can gather is very little. I wish people with actual leadership skills would get involved and maybe it will become something to talk about.
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