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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 11, 2006 8:08:05 GMT -5
Unfortunately the dejection has not abated - I have a feeling it will be stuck in my craw until we play next week, and it may take 2 wins to erase it.
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 11, 2006 9:05:02 GMT -5
Think of it this way: GMac now has a picture he can mount on the hood of his LeBaron as he tools around Scranton during his post college basketball career, soaking up the adulation as King of Scranton and remembering back in the good old day.
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YB
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Post by YB on Mar 11, 2006 9:27:05 GMT -5
I still feel like I'm getting kicked in the gut.
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Post by bostonhoya05 on Mar 11, 2006 9:30:17 GMT -5
I think if I could clearly recall the last 45 seconds, I'd feel worse. It's like experiencing a murder; I need a trauma expert to help me relive the experience. It may take a few days...
I can't watch the highlights.
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Post by Frank Black on Mar 11, 2006 9:45:11 GMT -5
I think if I could clearly recall the last 45 seconds, I'd feel worse. It's like experiencing a murder; I need a trauma expert to help me relive the experience. It may take a few days... I can't watch the highlights. Bostonhoya, I heard you almost got kicked out of a bar last night. Good work. Yeah, I'm still in stunned disbelief. I'm really surprised how much this hurts. I really had difficulty sleeping last night, which is just utterly pathetic.
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Post by HoyaDestroya on Mar 11, 2006 9:48:33 GMT -5
i am trying to pretend like it just didn't happen... seems to be the only way to deal with this... why did it have to be cuse and gmac - anyone else - i almost would have rather lost to notre dame in the first round.
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Post by theEDGEfactor on Mar 11, 2006 9:50:10 GMT -5
YB i agree the gut hurts. i feel even worse now... just total disappoinment and anger and... WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN... woke up thinking about this... once last night i had a dream we came back and won on bowmans buzzer beater and i woke up and found out it wasnt true... wow one of the worse nights ever
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geedell
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Post by geedell on Mar 11, 2006 9:52:20 GMT -5
I try not to think about it, but I woke up and my TV was on Comcast Sportsnet as they showed highlights.
When I think about Syracuse and Pitt playing in the Championship game I feel sick to my stomach
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Post by theEDGEfactor on Mar 11, 2006 9:53:32 GMT -5
good said geedell and it hurts even more knowing that we coulda beat pitt very easily
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Post by jackdog74 on Mar 11, 2006 10:34:47 GMT -5
I actually feel good, here's why:
After five years of needing to win the Big East to go to the Big Dance, we're going to the Big Dance. Period. We are a lock FoR the NCAA tournament. Two years ago we could not qualify for the NIT, let alone the NCAA. Heck, we almost missed the BET two years ago. Now we have a reason to watch CBS Sunday night before Cold Case. Nice work JTIII and staff. And if you don't think if we get hot something neat could happen, you obviously have no sense of college basketball history.
The young guys now understand why the bye is so important and why you come out fired up EVERY SINGLE GAME. Good for Roy, Jeff, Jon and Co. to know. Let's face it, BB, AC, and DJ never understood. Our youngsters do now. Remember, our core players may not even be able to drink yet, they need to learn things the hard way. I'm 31 and still pretty darned stubborn, but I'm a heckuva lot better than I was ten years ago. They understand now, though. Something, regrettably, our seniors never got the chance to learn.
Think of the front line next year -- Roy, Jeff, DaJuan, Ticket and Jr.
With that front line, Roy and Co. do not wear down. Yeah, missing those FT's hurt bad, real bad. But they were tired. Think about it, the throws were hitting the front of the rim. If it were not for my sleeping 13 month old during the game, I would still be screaming at the tv. They were just worn down.
Did you see the outward emotion in Roy and the quiet confidence in Jeff down the stretch? Fantastic!!!
Sorry folks, but SU knows how to win -- this group won the BET last year and McNamara won an NCAA. And calling him overrated sure did not help matters much this week for SU opponents.
The way I look at it, this must be what the late 70's were like -- coming close but not there yet. I was born in '74 so I have no point of reference. But I can say this, we're coming back. SU had better enjoy it now. The whole freaking conference better enjoy the licks they had this year. Because for the foreseeable future, THE FEAR IS HERE.
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Post by RDF on Mar 11, 2006 10:55:07 GMT -5
See other post-about GUARD PLAY--you win with guards in CBB and the frontline depth will be nice, but if this team doesn't get better in backcourt they'll never be a threat for BE or NCAA Title.
It's why UConn isn't as good--they've got great frontline but lack Ben Gordon who was real key to their Okafor teams-not Okafor. Without Gordon, that team never wins title. Last year they lost because they stunk in backcourt and lacked ball handling and it's why I see them slipping again this year. 1 great guard is nice, and why they are successful--but if he's out, nobody can handle/create and Austrie is GARBAGE.
Nova can win because they have 4 guards--and while I don't care for this "3 Ball" dominated game--it is what it is and teams like Nova and Illinois last year will always be able to compete due to how game is played at College Level.
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Bahstin
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Post by Bahstin on Mar 11, 2006 11:12:12 GMT -5
They should make a morning after pill for this.
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Post by McBricks on Mar 11, 2006 11:24:16 GMT -5
Not sure how I feel about the header at the top of this page a few minutes ago. There was actually a Google ad for psychotherapy in Berkeley. I think that just about sums it up for me.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 11, 2006 12:27:59 GMT -5
This is the one I just saw above: Depression InformationLearn about Depression at U.S. News & World Report's Depression Center Who says Google isn't tuned iin?
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Post by RockawayHoya on Mar 11, 2006 12:50:46 GMT -5
Better than the ads I was reading last night as we moaned about our inability to execute in the last 5 minutes of the game. "Instructional video: How to Play Better Basketball."
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 11, 2006 13:58:15 GMT -5
See other post-about GUARD PLAY--you win with guards in CBB and the frontline depth will be nice, but if this team doesn't get better in backcourt they'll never be a threat for BE or NCAA Title. It's why UConn isn't as good--they've got great frontline but lack Ben Gordon who was real key to their Okafor teams-not Okafor. Without Gordon, that team never wins title. Last year they lost because they stunk in backcourt and lacked ball handling and it's why I see them slipping again this year. 1 great guard is nice, and why they are successful--but if he's out, nobody can handle/create and Austrie is GARBAGE. Nova can win because they have 4 guards--and while I don't care for this "3 Ball" dominated game--it is what it is and teams like Nova and Illinois last year will always be able to compete due to how game is played at College Level. While I agree with the National Title, I don't with the BET. You can easily get a bye with the level of guardplay we have, and winning three games in three days ain't too hard with the guards we've got. I'm okay with us building towards a national title. I think it is funny, RDF, I think you're actually Editeded that we won't win a national title this year.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Mar 11, 2006 14:22:44 GMT -5
Why do we let it hurt so much? Yes, I know we are going to the Big Dance this year, and help is on its way, but heck, we just lost to SU, whom we beat recently by 15 and were up by 15 at half. Then I read in the papers this morning that their first lead was with 9 seconds to go. Oh, that is agonizing. I guess we should take this one step at a time and not be greedy, since we seem to be headed in the right direction, but Pitt beat Nova last night, so I think we had a good chance to win it all. Sigh!
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 11, 2006 14:25:27 GMT -5
See other post-about GUARD PLAY--you win with guards in CBB and the frontline depth will be nice, but if this team doesn't get better in backcourt they'll never be a threat for BE or NCAA Title. It's why UConn isn't as good--they've got great frontline but lack Ben Gordon who was real key to their Okafor teams-not Okafor. Without Gordon, that team never wins title. Last year they lost because they stunk in backcourt and lacked ball handling and it's why I see them slipping again this year. 1 great guard is nice, and why they are successful--but if he's out, nobody can handle/create and Austrie is GARBAGE. Nova can win because they have 4 guards--and while I don't care for this "3 Ball" dominated game--it is what it is and teams like Nova and Illinois last year will always be able to compete due to how game is played at College Level. No team has yet proven it can win the whole thing without credible frontcourt strength. Or better yet no team has yet to win the whole thing playing a lineup like Villanova's. You do need a balance. I agree the team needs more guard help. The problem is even if gets it will our coach play more than seven guys a game? That is the last obstacle as far as I'm concerned. Who knows how much the frosh could have contributed if III has used 11 guys and had press and instructed the team to be more aggressive. That could have made the difference between being a very good team and a great team. By the way I disagree with the Ben Gordon comments. Gordon was often invisible in some of the biggest games for UConn. Okafor was more consistent, more of a force on both sides of the floor and the main reason why UConn was in position to win its second championship.
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Post by RDF on Mar 11, 2006 19:35:24 GMT -5
See other post-about GUARD PLAY--you win with guards in CBB and the frontline depth will be nice, but if this team doesn't get better in backcourt they'll never be a threat for BE or NCAA Title. It's why UConn isn't as good--they've got great frontline but lack Ben Gordon who was real key to their Okafor teams-not Okafor. Without Gordon, that team never wins title. Last year they lost because they stunk in backcourt and lacked ball handling and it's why I see them slipping again this year. 1 great guard is nice, and why they are successful--but if he's out, nobody can handle/create and Austrie is GARBAGE. Nova can win because they have 4 guards--and while I don't care for this "3 Ball" dominated game--it is what it is and teams like Nova and Illinois last year will always be able to compete due to how game is played at College Level. No team has yet proven it can win the whole thing without credible frontcourt strength. Or better yet no team has yet to win the whole thing playing a lineup like Villanova's. You do need a balance. I agree the team needs more guard help. The problem is even if gets it will our coach play more than seven guys a game? That is the last obstacle as far as I'm concerned. Who knows how much the frosh could have contributed if III has used 11 guys and had press and instructed the team to be more aggressive. That could have made the difference between being a very good team and a great team. By the way I disagree with the Ben Gordon comments. Gordon was often invisible in some of the biggest games for UConn. Okafor was more consistent, more of a force on both sides of the floor and the main reason why UConn was in position to win its second championship. You can disagree all you want--but UConn only wins Titles when they have mutliple ball handlers--El Amin and Moore and Gordon/Brown combo were key to them. Also, despite Okafor's great game when he was allowed to play against Duke, Gordon hit the two biggest shots to get them back in the game late and he was the x factor for them--he could slide over and create/score while Brown handled ball and ran team. Nova's "style" hasn't won title--yet--but Illinois came close a year ago and I would say Nova is a lot closer then Hoyas are to winning. I do agree that you would like to have both a talented frontcourt and backcourt but that plays into the fact you have to PLAY guys on your roster--not just have them sit and watch. BTW---Gordon owned the BET too--he was a great BET player and that's a pretty big stage to perform on. I am not saying GU should win a National Title this year--but why not have that as a goal--especially if you plan on being in the tournament--whether we feel it's realistic or not isn't point--players HAVE to think this way and I don't they are--hell I think they should've won the BET and I'm ticked off we lost to an inferior team by beating ourselves and not forcing them to beat us---and playing passive/in retreat mode loses again and Staff doesn't seem to notice our "flaws" of: 1. Starting Slow 2. Propensity to stink when we fire 3's and don't go inside/out--call a damn timeout 3. System/clock milking is a guaranteed disaster That's what has me ticked off. Each game takes its own identity and if you are playing well, don't force the "System" on the team--play loose and attack.
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Post by lichoya68 on Mar 11, 2006 20:17:27 GMT -5
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