F for the coaching staff for this game

[SFHoya99]

Delay is not an offense. Especially when you're only up three.

Just atrocious. You'd think they'd have at least learned from WVU or the six other times it has happened to us.

If every team basically gave themselves a ten second shot clock, you'd score 21 in a half, too.

Worst half of basketball I have seen. Could tell no difference between them and an Esherick coached team in the second half.

Oh, and if I see one more player pass up a two foot shot to dish to a three point shooter, I'm done with this team. Just awful all around.

I wouldn't be so upset except that THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME.

[RockawayHoya]

Totally agree SF, except that all of this would have been a moot point had we simply GONE FIFTY PERCENT FROM THE LINE IN THE SECOND HALF. It took every ounce of choking from the line to get Cuse the win and we managed to do it.

[hoyaboy1]

Agree totally. As soon as we settle into the "we aren't allowed to shoot unless there is 5 seconds or less on the shotclock mode" it becomes obvious we won't get a good shot.

Since we are awful at creating and play a slow offense anyway, waiting 20 seconds to start the offense is NEVER a good strategy. NEVER.

It troubles me deeply that JTIII keeps going to it anyway. When the had the ball at the end I was screaming "do something," since there was no point in the delay.

Our end of game strategy is to hope the other team doesn't score, bevause we never do in the last minute.

Awful game, particularly by the staff.

[757hoyafan]

lmao....who's going to be your new Team? Hoyas fan here even if we're 0-30 next year...I would like to say congrats to the team for making the NCAA Tourney...

f/t's f/t's f/t's...

[the_way]

I disagree totally. We hit our foul shots, and we aren't having this conversation. We failed to execute down the stretch.

Len Elmore said it best at the end: "Who will be that clutch player for G-town in this game?". Well, we didn't get it in the clutch. Its not the staff. Its the players. They didn't execute in the clutch and SU did.

[SFHoya99]

hoyaboy1 said:

Agree totally. As soon as we settle into the "we aren't allowed to shoot unless there is 5 seconds or less on the shotclock mode" it becomes obvious we won't get a good shot.

Since we are awful at creating and play a slow offense anyway, waiting 20 seconds to start the offense is NEVER a good strategy. NEVER.

It troubles me deeply that JTIII keeps going to it anyway. When the had the ball at the end I was screaming "do something," since there was no point in the delay.

Our end of game strategy is to hope the other team doesn't score, bevause we never do in the last minute.

Awful game, particularly by the staff.

We ran a delay offense...up 3...with SIX minutes left.

Seriously, I can almost always think of the other side. The only crap I can come up with is that III was trying to rest his starters but still inexplicably not play backups in order to try to win the whole thing.

Which is, of course, insane. So I can't come up with any logic for what we saw.

What is awful is I don't know if III thinks there was anything wrong with what he obviously chose. We've seen it before.

It is getting to the point where I hope we are down at half.

[MJGHoya]

They still don't know how to close out a game. They get too conservative down the stretch.

I don't mind slowing the game down, but they don't get into their offense until 10 seconds is left on the shot clock and then our forced to take poor shots.

Hopefully, they'll learn from their mistakes.

[SFHoya99]

mjghoya said:

They still don't know how to close out a game. They get too conservative down the stretch.

I don't mind slowing the game down, but they don't get into their offense until 10 seconds is left on the shot clock and then our forced to take poor shots.

Hopefully, they'll learn from their mistakes.

Down the stretch? They played conservative from halftime on.

[theEDGEfactor]

just no excuse just NO EXCUSE

[hoyaboy1]

Heck, if this just led to taking poor shots it would be an improvement. Our delay offense doesn't even lead to a shot half the time.

[FrazierFanatic]

Huh, I'm surprised Dan hasn't deleted this.

[mapei]

You guys are nailing it. So frustrating.

[theEDGEfactor]

get a video of the 2nd half and run it everysecond in practice

[mapei]

>Huh, I'm surprised Dan hasn't deleted this.

Why? We're not allowed to be critical?

[hoyaboy1]

theedgefactor said:

get a video of the 2nd half and run it everysecond in practice

I'd rather JTIII run it at home.

[theEDGEfactor]

ya agree whatever it takes to show the USF game and the 2nd of this would do wonders, but who knows we never learn from the past

[NCHoya]

I would rather these guys go down shooting than sitting there playing not to lose. You have to attack, we cannot wait so long, the defense was expecting us to hold the ball because that is what we do. We could not even get off a decent 3, it was ridiculous.

I have a feeling this will not be last time this season that we see this type of ending to a game. We always play teams close and eventually it is going to catch up to you. It is just in the percentages.

[wrestlemania]

What's disappointing is that they played scared in the last five minutes. They are overdoing it with this Princeton crap -- it is making them passive when they don't have to be, there's too much passing that doesn't go anywhere. There are good athletes on this team -- why are they playing like Dartmouth?

Unfortunately, no thanks to the seniors -- Bowman disappeared in the 2nd half, Cook's turnover on the baseline was inexcusable, DJ was, well, DJ.

JTIII looked genuinely angry after the game, and justifiably so. Maybe this gives them a little kick in the backside going into the tournament, but I think that the real problem is that he still isn't sure what offensive tempo is best for this team. And that points to the lack of a real point guard, which was painfully obvious tonight.

Bright side? In just two years they've gone from selling programs at the NIT to a mid-level seed in the NCAA tournament, with solid recruiting classes ahead. OK.

[RockawayHoya]

theway said:

I disagree totally. We hit our foul shots, and we aren't having this conversation. We failed to execute down the stretch.

Len Elmore said it best at the end: "Who will be that clutch player for G-town in this game?". Well, we didn't get it in the clutch. Its not the staff. Its the players. They didn't execute in the clutch and SU did.

Have to agree with you, _way. The only reason the lead wasn't extended was because we couldn't hit our FTs. The slow-down tempo had nothing to do with us losing, except that it might have given us more time to come back after losing the lead (which we were inevitably going to lose the way we were shooting from the line). The only thing that's shocking was that Cuse wasn't able to take the lead earlier.

[gujake]

wrestle,

The Princeton offense is not crap.

The Princeton offense does not really require a "real" point guard (even though I think JW is one).

SU plays a zone, so the offense you saw, even in the first half, is not the prototypical Princeton offense.

The first half showed exactly the way the offense should be run against that zone. Good motion, in and out passing, etc. The offense in the 2nd half was terrible and certainly not the way it is drawn up.

What is fair is to ask whether or not JT3 was using the delaying tactic on purpose.