HoyaNyr320
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Post by HoyaNyr320 on Mar 8, 2006 20:28:36 GMT -5
Anyone see the postgame conference w/ Boeheim? It was hysterical! He went off on the local Syracuse and school papers which called Gerry "overrated" saying that they were full of [edited] and "We wouldn't have won 10 [edited] games without him." Meanwhile, Gerry could be seen sulking and looking down as Jimbo ranted on... great stuff!
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miamihoya
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Post by miamihoya on Mar 8, 2006 20:36:48 GMT -5
Ya I saw that...another classy performance by Boheim..wouldn't expect less..it was nice that ESPN cut from that clip to a post-game interview with JTIII...huge difference in style
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the_way
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Post by the_way on Mar 8, 2006 20:39:43 GMT -5
It was great and I commend him for it. He defended his player and was in the right. Just like Esh stuck his neck out and defended Mike. Much respect to Boeheim.
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rhman
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Post by rhman on Mar 8, 2006 20:45:52 GMT -5
Here is a link to the "GMac is Overrated" column... Gmac Is OverratedAll normal stuff that everyone except Syracuse fans have been saying for awhile now. Here is a pretty sharp excerpt... You could make a case for McNamara actually being the third-best player on the team behind Demetris Nichols and Eric Devendorf. Finding himself in more McNamara-like trances than McNamara himself this season, Nichols has easily been the most consistent shooter on the Orange. Devendorf is shooting a team-high 40.3 percent from the 3-point line and drives the lane better than McNamara. In the eight conferences games, Nichols is averaging 16.3 points to McNamara and Devendorf's 14.9.
In terms of the team as a whole, there is a disturbing backward trend. The more prominent role McNamara has had, the worse the team has done. He's gone from national champions to a loss in the Sweet 16 to a loss in the first round. Now, in what was finally supposed to be his team, Syracuse is struggling just to win 20 games and make the NCAA Tournament.
To be specific, when McNamara left the Rutgers game, Syracuse was trailing by five points. The first five-game losing streak in Boeheim's career, and quite possibly the NIT, was staring the Orange in the face. But the Syracuse offense became more balanced with Josh Wright at the point, and SU eventually won on a dramatic buzzer-beating 3-pointer that Terrence Roberts never would have taken with McNamara in the game.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2006 20:46:48 GMT -5
Totally different situations. Esh never "defended" Sweets - simply called out what he saw as poor treatment of the man on-court. Boe-whine was complaining about what a STUDENT NEWSPAPER wrote. Last time I checked, this was a free country and the press could write a player was overrated, college or not.
Typical Boe-whine.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2006 20:48:56 GMT -5
Here is a link to the "GMac is Overrated" column... media.www.dailyorange.com/media/paper522/news/2006/03/02/GerryMcnamara/Is.Gerry.Overrated.Ramsey.Weaknesses.There.All.Along-1649923.shtml?sourcedomain=www.dailyorange.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.comAll normal stuff that everyone except Syracuse fans have been saying for awhile now. Here is a pretty sharp excerpt... You could make a case for McNamara actually being the third-best player on the team behind Demetris Nichols and Eric Devendorf. Finding himself in more McNamara-like trances than McNamara himself this season, Nichols has easily been the most consistent shooter on the Orange. Devendorf is shooting a team-high 40.3 percent from the 3-point line and drives the lane better than McNamara. In the eight conferences games, Nichols is averaging 16.3 points to McNamara and Devendorf's 14.9.
In terms of the team as a whole, there is a disturbing backward trend. The more prominent role McNamara has had, the worse the team has done. He's gone from national champions to a loss in the Sweet 16 to a loss in the first round. Now, in what was finally supposed to be his team, Syracuse is struggling just to win 20 games and make the NCAA Tournament.
To be specific, when McNamara left the Rutgers game, Syracuse was trailing by five points. The first five-game losing streak in Boeheim's career, and quite possibly the NIT, was staring the Orange in the face. But the Syracuse offense became more balanced with Josh Wright at the point, and SU eventually won on a dramatic buzzer-beating 3-pointer that Terrence Roberts never would have taken with McNamara in the game. Exactly. For Boe-whine to get up in arms about a well-reasoned piece like this just because it was written by a student (or anyone who thinks McNamara is overrated) is ridiculous. Of course, I wouldn't expect anything less from a guy who bitches and moans like a kid who can't get his way.
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Post by FOTP on Mar 8, 2006 20:52:05 GMT -5
This rant was PATHETIC. He chose a national platform to basically rip on the freaking campus newspaper and made some Junior's life. It was completely beneath him and ridiculous.
Congrats Jimmy boy...you called out some pimple faced undergrad on national tv...nice work.
Most rational people know that G-Mac is one hell of a player and meant a ton to Syr.
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HoyaNyr320
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Post by HoyaNyr320 on Mar 8, 2006 20:52:14 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2006 20:57:31 GMT -5
Hey Boe-whine:
If its classless and stupid for a college sports writer to say your boy is overrated and provide an analysis of why he thinks so - which he clearly is and it is well within the writer's rights to do so - how classless and stupid is it of YOU to call out some 20 year old just trying to build his resume by wirting what amounts to his opinion of the state of SU-cks hoops?
edited coward. Enjoy the NIT.
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FOTP
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Post by FOTP on Mar 8, 2006 20:58:33 GMT -5
Now that is high comedy. He really come up with that one out of the clear blue sky. Nothing could have prompted that.
Was Jimmy reading the campus newspaper before the game? What would lead him to going insane?
At least when Esh went off it was more on the refs and Sweets treatment down low. I respected that...but Jimmy is a joke.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Mar 8, 2006 21:01:21 GMT -5
It was great and I commend him for it. He defended his player and was in the right. Just like Esh stuck his neck out and defended Mike. Much respect to Boeheim. Either you have a healthy sense of sarchasm or you are way off-base man. This is a completely different situation - referees get PAID to judge the game. This is a student who wrote an article and got called out by a coach who is a complete cry-baby. Say what you want about Esh but that was never his MO. Boehiem is a cry-baby and tries to get past his poor coaching (just a tip Jim - defense is half of the game - maybe you should actually teach your team to play it) by intimidating refs and generally yelling and stomping. Taking off your coat and stomping your feet does not make you a good coach and callng out an undergrad does not make you a good coach. Way to go Jim, you've always been the bigger man.
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FOTP
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Post by FOTP on Mar 8, 2006 21:10:26 GMT -5
Oh my god! I just listened to Dan Shulman on ESPN and he led the conversation with:
"This is Jim Boeheim responding to a question about whether Gerry McNamara is overrated"....now they are ripping on everyone...it's just awful.
The question was NEVER asked. He made it up. This is hysterical and the definition of ESPN of terrible journalism.
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Jack
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Post by Jack on Mar 8, 2006 21:22:50 GMT -5
Even if the question was about whether lil' Gerry was overrated, Jimmy did not answer that question, he answered the non-existent hypothetical of whether Cuse would be better off without GMac. Of course they would not be better off without him, but that does not make him not overrated and it does not mean he is not worse this year than he was as a sophomore. His presence on the all-Big East first team is a total joke, even the bloated 11 man first team.
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Hoya50
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Post by Hoya50 on Mar 8, 2006 21:24:18 GMT -5
frankly, i don't mind jimmy b sticking up for his player. was this the right forum? maybe not. to be honest, i think he's just pumping up his players for uconn. uconn kicked their a** twice this year and su will have to play the perfect game to beat them
you know i'll be rooting for su tomorrow.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Mar 8, 2006 21:43:12 GMT -5
Jimmy knows his team is going to get crushed maƱana. This was his last chance to try and talk G-Mac into the NBA.
Wonder how the rest of the team, who Boeheim essentially implied is worthless, feels about Jim's comments.
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Mar 8, 2006 21:56:18 GMT -5
Yeah, he realized what he was implying and tried to cover it by saying "these guys just aren't ready yet, they need him"
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rccoleon
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Post by rccoleon on Mar 8, 2006 22:42:08 GMT -5
best part of this is that there was another column in the same paper saying that mcnamara is not overrated. if he is that concerned with what is published in a student newspaper that is sad. maybe he should be coaching his team a little more and reading student papers a little less.
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Post by Joe Hoya on Mar 8, 2006 22:46:35 GMT -5
Sounds to me like some clever young Bob Costas wannabe figured he could rile some people up and get himself some attention by saying something detrimental about one of his schoolmates...and he did. Jim Boeheim just made Ethan Ramsey famous. Well done, Mr. Ramsey, well done.
As for the rant...I loved it. I love coach tirades. John Chaney threatening to kill John Calipari would STILL be saved on my TiVo...if TiVo had been invented back then, anyways. I want someone to hire Jim Mora next season so we can have him back. We need more people using the term "diddly-poo."
"Playoffs?!?"
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Post by HoyaTejano on Mar 8, 2006 23:41:12 GMT -5
Coach rants are great theater. Especially in the Big East tournament --Boeheim has a couple of these "I'm not gonna take it anymore" rampages during the BET.
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Post by SaxaCD on Mar 9, 2006 0:13:43 GMT -5
This rant was PATHETIC. He chose a national platform to basically rip on the freaking campus newspaper and made some Junior's life. It was completely beneath him and ridiculous. Congrats Jimmy boy...you called out some pimple faced undergrad on national tv...nice work. Most rational people know that G-Mac is one hell of a player and meant a ton to Syr. Nice to see he gets more worked up over a student paper column than the crimes his team regularly commits off the court.
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