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Post by guru on Feb 13, 2006 11:57:47 GMT -5
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Post by the_way on Feb 13, 2006 11:58:53 GMT -5
I read it yesterday. Very interesting read.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 13, 2006 13:35:41 GMT -5
This would be a great story to see followed up. It's a good first read as an article but what a story. They should look into other preps as well.
Is Egerson the first player we've taken from there? It will be interesting to see how he does academically.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Feb 13, 2006 13:51:11 GMT -5
"Georgetown spokesman Bill Shapland said the school would not comment for this report."
Doubt this was out of principle, but I agree with not commenting on this story. I trust that our coach understands the players' academic abilities and responsibilities, and I'm sure the players are aware of them, too. JTIII knows the academic requirements at GU, and he knows Marc. Philadelphia Lutheran has an 80% college grad rate. I don't expect any academic issues with Marc to arise.
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Post by ScreamingHoya on Feb 13, 2006 13:55:53 GMT -5
Saw the story too. All I could keep thinking about was my history class a few weeks ago when egerson got up to go to the bathroom and never came back
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Post by GUHoya07 on Feb 13, 2006 14:02:55 GMT -5
I dont think we should be posting stuff like that about current players. I've seen other students do things like that on numerous occasions and I just don't think we should be posting non-basketball stuff about players here.
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Post by guru on Feb 13, 2006 14:05:12 GMT -5
I dont think we should be posting stuff like that about current players. I've seen other students do things like that on numerous occasions and I just don't think we should be posting non-basketball stuff about players here. I agree, though I do think the topic of Philadelphia Lutheran is one that's legit for discussion. After reading that article, I hope Marc is a one-time exception, and that we don't go there looking for players anymore. |
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Post by FairfaxHoya on Feb 13, 2006 14:52:34 GMT -5
A Shapland "no comment"?!?! That is about as surprising as a blue sky, green gass, or the sun rising the in east and setting in the west. I can't believe that guy is still on the payroll.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 13, 2006 15:58:00 GMT -5
I dont think we should be posting stuff like that about current players. I've seen other students do things like that on numerous occasions and I just don't think we should be posting non-basketball stuff about players here. I agree, though I do think the topic of Philadelphia Lutheran is one that's legit for discussion. After reading that article, I hope Marc is a one-time exception, and that we don't go there looking for players anymore. I'm not even ready to do that. I really would like to know more. This brings up a ton of questions. Do they really have that high a graduation rate from college? Who really "refers" these kids to Lutheran? Who signed off on this from the NCAA? Could they follow a graduate and see how he performs just as an example? And the saddest one of all: What if a sanitation worker with a couple of booklets really CAN prepare students better than the DC (amongst others) public school system? Seriously, this has the potential to look bad for a lot of people and not just in college basketball. |
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Post by OldHoyafan on Feb 13, 2006 17:04:10 GMT -5
Interesting article. Its premise is (1) the setting in which these students are taught is not your typical setting, (2) these students either failed, or are now failing in a typical class setting; therefore this program must be questionable. Now, this questionable status is hinted at throughout the article, eventhough they report that the NCAA(not too liberal on academic requirements) has approved 35 courses and eighty(80) per cent of the schools graduates graduate from college. I wonder what is the graduation rate of other high schools with typical classroom settings?
Like Big John used to say -Don't judge me on what Boys I take in, but rather judge me on the Men I put out.
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Post by 757hoyafan on Feb 13, 2006 17:58:22 GMT -5
Saw the story too. All I could keep thinking about was my history class a few weeks ago when egerson got up to go to the bathroom and never came back lmao...... why shouldnt it be discussed? scared of Georgetown being exposed? |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 13, 2006 19:32:48 GMT -5
Saw the story too. All I could keep thinking about was my history class a few weeks ago when egerson got up to go to the bathroom and never came back lmao...... why shouldnt it be discussed? scared of Georgetown being exposed? No, just more respectful of an individual's personal life when all the information out there is incomplete or hearsay from an anonymous poster. |
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 13, 2006 21:27:00 GMT -5
"Georgetown spokesman Bill Shapland said the school would not comment for this report." Doubt this was out of principle, but I agree with not commenting on this story. I trust that our coach understands the players' academic abilities and responsibilities, and I'm sure the players are aware of them, too. JTIII knows the academic requirements at GU, and he knows Marc. Philadelphia Lutheran has an 80% college grad rate. I don't expect any academic issues with Marc to arise. |
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 13, 2006 21:28:00 GMT -5
"Georgetown spokesman Bill Shapland said the school would not comment for this report." Doubt this was out of principle, but I agree with not commenting on this story. I trust that our coach understands the players' academic abilities and responsibilities, and I'm sure the players are aware of them, too. JTIII knows the academic requirements at GU, and he knows Marc. Philadelphia Lutheran has an 80% college grad rate. I don't expect any academic issues with Marc to arise. |
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 13, 2006 21:29:10 GMT -5
Shapland's "no comment" may not out of principle, but based upon federal law. Students have rights regarding their educational records, and absent a waiver, the school can't speak publicly about any particular student's academic record:
Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA)
The Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) (20 U.S.C. ยง 1232g; 34 CFR Part 99) is a Federal law that protects the privacy of student education records. The law applies to all schools that receive funds under an applicable program of the U.S. Department of Education.
FERPA gives parents certain rights with respect to their children's education records. These rights transfer to the student when he or she reaches the age of 18 or attends a school beyond the high school level. Students to whom the rights have transferred are "eligible students."
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Post by theEDGEfactor on Feb 13, 2006 22:26:40 GMT -5
also remember that vernon goodridge came from here who of course we lost out on when he ended up picking miss state.
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Post by FromTheBeginning on Feb 28, 2006 13:12:19 GMT -5
1) GU has always declined to discuss individual student's academic situation in the press.
2) A violation of the FERPA restrictions cost a Univ. of Texas assistant coach his job back during the end of the Tom Penders era.
3) Hard to see how a school which, according to the article, opened in 2003 has any success ratio to quote for college graduation unless the students were working on the "3 year program".
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Post by FormerHoya on Feb 28, 2006 13:17:18 GMT -5
lmao...... why shouldnt it be discussed? scared of Georgetown being exposed? No, just more respectful of an individual's personal life when all the information out there is incomplete or hearsay from an anonymous poster. Good thing I never skipped a class, nor showed up drunk to a class, nor continued to drink during class, nor [gasp] got up in the middle of class and left... Simmer down folks, so long as he gets acceptable grades while doing the work, all is well. |
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Post by DFW HOYA on Feb 28, 2006 13:25:37 GMT -5
Simmer down folks, so long as he gets acceptable grades while doing the work, all is well. All is not well in situations like this. The NCAA doesn't have a grasp of the unregulated prep school business, much less what will happen when athletes turn to home schooling to get their diplomas. If the NCAA doesn't have a grasp on it, Georgetown should, however. |
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Post by aggypryd on Feb 28, 2006 13:59:47 GMT -5
Saw the story too. All I could keep thinking about was my history class a few weeks ago when egerson got up to go to the bathroom and never came back Man, it's impossible for me to count how many times I've done that. |
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