hoyabinx
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Post by hoyabinx on Feb 6, 2006 19:32:49 GMT -5
We should remember that they didnt have D. Hill when we played them, he is a pretty nasty guard.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Feb 6, 2006 20:17:09 GMT -5
We should remember that they didnt have D. Hill when we played them, he is a pretty nasty guard. meh he averages about 13 pts per game. We won by 14 at their place when they played with out him. We still win by 1. Obivously that logic doesn't work but I'm still not scared. Home court is worth +4 pts so we win by 5. But seriosuly We are playing signifigantly better than when we played them the first time. We'll be fine. I think once again Roy won't see that much time in this game the way he didn't see that much i the game up there. Their post guys are too quick for him. He's a liability on D.
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Post by BurleithBeast on Feb 6, 2006 20:26:01 GMT -5
I have fear before this play, since it found between two very durable competitors. We may not look to the beyond. They were a difficult competitor for the university of Connecticut. I trust that John Thompson of the Third keeps our crew arranged the gift and it of that, large play does not let begin to think against the university from west Virginia Did you run this through the Retranslator? ( prague.tv/toys/retrans/index.php) 'Cause you could have used a few more cycles... Spanish: "I am scared before this game, since it found between two very durable competitors. We can not watch further on. They were a difficult competitor for the university of Connecticut. I trust that Juan who Thompson of the third guard to our equipment fixed the gift and of that, great game does not let to begin to think against the university of Western Virginia" then French: "I am frightened before this play, since it found between two very durable competitors. We cannot observe more far top. They were a difficult competitor for the university of Connecticut. I trust this Juan that Thompson of the third guard to our equipment fixed the gift and of this, great play does not let start to think against the university of Western Virginia" then German: "I am frightened before this play, since it found between two very durable competitors. We cannot observe further top side. They were a difficult competitor for the university of Connecticut. I trust this Juan, which Thompson of the third protection to our equipment the gift and of this repaired, large play do not have beginning not against the university by Westvirginia thought" then Italian: "frightened before this game, since it has found between two durable competitors much. We cannot observe ulterior advanced side. They were a difficult competitor for the university of Connecticut. I trust myself this Juan, Thompson of the third protection to our equipment the gift and of this repaired, great game not that the beginning not against the university from thought of the Westvirginia" I could go on...
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Big Dog
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Post by Big Dog on Feb 6, 2006 22:01:53 GMT -5
Ugh. Enough with the "I'm worried about us looking ahead" posts. This team doesn't look ahead. JTIII is emotionally incapable of looking past anyone. That doesn't mean that some night a lesser team will play a strong game and possibly beat us, but that's not enough reason to dread every game.
The facts are that we've won six straight games, we've suddenly a developed a significant home court advantage, and that St. Johns has hit the skids lately. I expect us to take care of business at MCI against these guys.
[Edited: Nevada's right--I forgot to count the USF game in our streak. Its hard to remember the pre-Duke Hoyas these days.]
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Post by shemshaun on Feb 6, 2006 22:14:30 GMT -5
JTIII is emotionally incapable of looking past anyone.
I agree BD. Look at their starts to the last 5 games:
Duke: up 4-0 for about the first 4min ND: up 5-0 quickly, a three by AC and two by JG Cinci: Go up 15-6 in first 7min. TO Cinci, Hoyas pop three. Depaul: They score a 2, we wipe the floor with them for almost the entire first half. Pitt: A quick 6-0 lead in first 3 min.
This team will not take a night to watch a game rather than play a game. That eliminates one way to lose a game. I like our chances to beat Johnnies with that out of the equation.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Feb 6, 2006 22:14:53 GMT -5
I hope Big Dog is right. In the BE you don't look past anyone. However, BD seems to be missing that we have won six (instead of five) straight game. We should win this game. That makes this a must win in the sense that it is a very winnable game. And Burleith, could I have that in Klingon?
GO HOYAS!!!!!!!!! Tame the Storm!!!!!!
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CTHoya08
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Post by CTHoya08 on Feb 6, 2006 23:43:02 GMT -5
I have a question for all of the alumni out there. Where does St. John's rank among our rivalries? I think Syracuse is the biggest, but one of my friends insists that St. John's is bigger, even pointing out that we're playing them during ESPN's "Rivalry Week." (Also, his father went to St. John's). Looking at some of the historical data, I feel that Syracuse is a bigger deal, but I wonder if that rivalry hasn't faded a bit lately, as our teams were less competitive a few years ago.
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FLHoya
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Post by FLHoya on Feb 7, 2006 0:24:30 GMT -5
I have a question for all of the alumni out there. Where does St. John's rank among our rivalries? I think Syracuse is the biggest, but one of my friends insists that St. John's is bigger, even pointing out that we're playing them during ESPN's "Rivalry Week." (Also, his father went to St. John's). Looking at some of the historical data, I feel that Syracuse is a bigger deal, but I wonder if that rivalry hasn't faded a bit lately, as our teams were less competitive a few years ago. That's a great question...I'll bet there's a lot of support for the SJU rivalry among the mid-80s alums. What's weird for me being a post-millennium grad is that the whole concept of rivalries was somewhat watered down, I feel, by the team's relative lack of success during my last three years. If I had to rank them, the list of rivalries would run something like this: 1. Syracuse 2. Syracuse 3. Syracuse Seriously, if you went to GTown any time, say, after Allen Iverson left, what rivalry made you sit at home days in advance and think "man, I really can't wait for that one". I just can't come up w/ anything besides the Orange. The only reason St. John's really gets the anticipation going for me, as it were, is that we've played so darn many funky games against them recently(the 3 point loss at MSG my freshman year, the Marcus Hatten comeback game at MCI, the two horrific losses the last two seasons at MSG, the Courtland Freeman dunk game). Maybe that's lack of promotion by Hoya Blue in years past, maybe it's a collective lack of historical perspective among students, and maybe it's just that we haven't been simultaneously great for long enough recently with more teams/played a ton of great games to really create something. I get up for games against Pitt and UConn because I enjoy the challenge of playing the teams that have, for my years anyhow, been the most consistently great in the BE. I know there's a battle coming for each one. But I don't think there's a "rivalry" there that animates students on its own right now--there's a reason Hoya Blue can do a "Syracuse week" and not a "Pitt week". But the great thing about the turnaround--you know UConn is probably visiting MCI next year. And if we both keep up the good momentum, with the extra attention the team is getting from students and alums, it'll be a big one next year, and maybe the start of something for future generations.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Feb 7, 2006 1:10:39 GMT -5
Yeah it's weird cause looking at it historically you think it would be a big rivalry like #2 after Cuse but it just isn't.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Feb 7, 2006 2:58:17 GMT -5
Since this is part of rivalry week the cheers sheets should include a "NOT OUR RIVAL" chant.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 7, 2006 3:04:25 GMT -5
Since this is part of rivalry week the cheers sheets should include a "NOT OUR RIVAL" chant. Except they kinda are. Save "Not our rival" for when (if) we play GW. I won't give the dookies credit for much, but that was a brilliant cheer to lay on UMCP.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Feb 7, 2006 3:08:10 GMT -5
Really? Are they? I mean we play them a lot - but we also play Seton Hall, Rutgers, and Providence a lot and I don't think anyone on campus or amongst the alumni would consider them our rival. I think you have to define a rivalry as having a starting point of contestation, a history of high levels of play, an acknowledgement on both sides that there is a rivalry, and some upsets for there to be a rivalry. I think that you would find too many Johnnies or Hoyas today who would tell you that a rivalry exists between the two schools.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 7, 2006 3:12:31 GMT -5
Really? Are they? I mean we play them a lot - but we also play Seton Hall, Rutgers, and Providence a lot and I don't think anyone on campus or amongst the alumni would consider them our rival. I think you have to define a rivalry as having a starting point of contestation, a history of high levels of play, an acknowledgement on both sides that there is a rivalry, and some upsets for there to be a rivalry. I think that you would find too many Johnnies or Hoyas today who would tell you that a rivalry exists between the two schools. You need to actually talk to alumni. There's a large amount that place them right up with Cuse. SJU and Georgetown have played for years, even before the BE. In the mid-80s, the Ewing and Mullin battles were national events. Frankly, the 1 v 2 games in 1985 are considered some of the biggest games (if not best) in basketball history. Many GU alumni consider them a rival, and every single St. John's alum from the 1980s will spit at the mention of our name. It's been dormant, and will be until SJU picks it up. But I personally don't think that chant is appropriate (in the sense that it isn't correct).
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Feb 7, 2006 3:47:26 GMT -5
What's the difference between the rivalry being dorman and it being dead? I seriously doubt whether any student would rank them among our Top 5 rivals in sports - I'd certainly put Cuse and Nova much higher (along with Maryland and Duke).
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 7, 2006 3:49:39 GMT -5
What's the difference between the rivalry being dorman and it being dead? I seriously doubt whether any student would rank them among our Top 5 rivals in sports - I'd certainly put Cuse and Nova much higher (along with Maryland and Duke). Just saying I don't think it applies. And anyway, if you think no one from SJU cares, then...what's the point again?
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Feb 7, 2006 3:52:14 GMT -5
I'd look to their message boards on this one - not a lot of stalk on redmen.com about the game - and if a group of self-selecting die hard fans doesn't get up for a rivalry game or attempt to talk trash on their board or this one about the game or the teams that has to be a pretty strong indicator of their lack of feeling about a rivalry with Georgetown.
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Locker
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Post by Locker on Feb 7, 2006 7:07:02 GMT -5
TV note: this game will be our third HD game of the regular season (with one more to go -- next week at Marquette), though the limited cable distribution of ESPN2HD will prevent a lot of us from seeing it properly. Comcast needs to get on the ball with this.
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Hoya50
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Post by Hoya50 on Feb 7, 2006 9:00:17 GMT -5
was it last year or the year before when there was only about 2000 people to see sju-gu at the garden? it was a pretty pathetic number.
cant wait till thursday.
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Post by SaxaCD on Feb 7, 2006 9:15:16 GMT -5
Hill playing this time means there should be more chances for rebounds.
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Post by casualhoya on Feb 7, 2006 9:26:57 GMT -5
The Hoyas - Johnnies NIT Final was pretty casual a few years back. Sweetney's last game as a Hoya....
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