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Post by FHillsNYHoya on Mar 2, 2024 22:23:01 GMT -5
The adjust comment is for both Fielder and Cooley.
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Post by beenaround on Mar 2, 2024 22:25:41 GMT -5
Some good offensive performances by most of the starters. But X hit only 4 3s and scores 98 is amazing. We knew they couldn’t make an outside shot and still gave up at least 15 easy layups or dunks.
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Post by FHillsNYHoya on Mar 2, 2024 22:30:31 GMT -5
46 FT attempts on 27 fouls. Seems like a lot. Not blaming the refs BTW. Just seems hard to do that.
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Post by guru on Mar 2, 2024 22:30:39 GMT -5
Cooley’s disastrous coaching performance continues. This season can’t end soon enough.
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 2, 2024 22:32:06 GMT -5
Some good offensive performances by most of the starters. But X hit only 4 3s and scores 98 is amazing. We knew they couldn’t make an outside shot and still gave up at least 15 easy layups or dunks. Our perimeter defense is atrocious. Yes, the rim protection is also bad. But how can Epps and Heath continuously let their men beat them off the dribble, knowing those guys can’t shoot from outside and knowing they don’t have rim protection if they get beat? What kind of scheme allows that and doesn’t adjust?
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 2, 2024 22:32:55 GMT -5
Cooley’s disastrous coaching performance continues. This season can’t end soon enough. Guess Cooley’s lifetime winning percentage in Big East games.
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Post by FHillsNYHoya on Mar 2, 2024 22:40:31 GMT -5
He gets a mulligan this year. Cobbled together whatever he could with zero time. So far incredibly disappointed in ending Hall on road, X times 2 at minimum. Thought we would win those games on x and o and schema based on rep.
Still giving him a pass with the horrific defenders he inherited and others he perhaps begged to come. Next year will be the barometer for me.
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Post by hoya18 on Mar 2, 2024 22:47:27 GMT -5
Where to begin. Nice early offense. But horrible second half defense by primarily Heath and ISH. Anyone who has a driving forward could beat Georgetown with little effort. How many times did JSH and Heath lose their man? Just about every possession in the second half. I was surprised to see Ryan not in there. He cannot be that bad compared to those playing.
Yes, not a good coaching day, you find a way to stop the bleeding, GU could not.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 2, 2024 22:57:18 GMT -5
He gets a mulligan this year. Cobbled together whatever he could with zero time. So far incredibly disappointed in ending Hall on road, X times 2 at minimum. Thought we would win those games on x and o and schema based on rep. Still giving him a pass with the horrific defenders he inherited and others he perhaps begged to come. Next year will be the barometer for me. Ed Cooley arrived on campus on March 22, 2023. It's not like he was hired in July.
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Post by FHillsNYHoya on Mar 2, 2024 22:59:41 GMT -5
So he had a full recruiting year before he coached his first game? I know you have an agenda but please be better than that. Kind of embarrassing.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 2, 2024 23:01:18 GMT -5
So he had a full recruiting year before he coached his first game? I know you have an agenda but please be better than that. Kind of embarrassing. I have no agenda. His first game for Georgetown was November 7, 2023. Is this incorrect? Let's not confuse the precedent with the outcome.
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Post by FHillsNYHoya on Mar 2, 2024 23:05:04 GMT -5
Do you seriously feel like he had a chance to coach the team he wanted to coach based on his hire date?
Yes or no?
He has underperformed IMO but lets at least be objective about it.
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Post by vv83 on Mar 2, 2024 23:05:07 GMT -5
We started running two men at Claude once they caught all the way up. Xavier still scored on pretty much every possession, but at least they had to do a little more than just have someone dribble right to the rim and hit a layup or get fouled!
I would not be surprised if the Xavier "points per possession" number in the second half broke some kind of NCAA record. They had to be well above 1.5 points per possession, which is unimaginably horrific. The second half was not played at an especially fast pace. and they still put up over 60 points. It was easily the worst half of defense that I have seen in my 45 years of closely following college basketball.
I can't even begin to figure out who is to blame. When things get that awful, everyone involved in the program is to blame. it's too bad, because we played our best offensive half of the season in the first half. there was actual ball movement and good shots. Epps played the way he has to play to be effective in the first half - under control, passing rather than forcing difficult shots, attacking when the right opportunity arose.
But that second half defense was indescribably bad. When Claude went right to the rim on the first possession of the second half, I knew the game was over. Once a team realizes that simply attacking the rim off the dribble is a guaranteed basket/foul almost every time, our D has no chance to stop anybody. It is actually kind of shocking that every team has not done this on every possession all season. It is not hard to figure out, just watch 15 minutes of video of our D and it becomes blatantly obvious.
I survived the Ewing years, so I know I can survive whatever the Cooley years become. I am still hopeful (though far from optimistic) that the incoming freshmen plus 2 or 3 high quality transfers will make us a competitive team next year.
And that's all I want for next season. Just be competitive. No 20 point halftime deficits. No 60 point defensive halves. Top 100 defensive rating/overall rating on KenPom. A record within a few games of .500 in the conference, a game or two over .500 for the season. Some prayer of going to the NIT. My hopes have been so beaten down that this is all i want now - not to be the laughing stock of the conference/nation.
Maybe we can get to this level next year, maybe beyond this to some slim hope of making the NCAA tournament within a couple of years. But after that second half today - this is all just stuff I hope for. I don't expect any of it - there are zero expectations, just as there were during the last two Ewing seasons. I had some slight expectations going into this season, but I'm back to expecting nothing, and just hoping for the most modest of progress next year.
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Post by FHillsNYHoya on Mar 2, 2024 23:08:24 GMT -5
We started running two men at Claude once they caught all the way up. Xavier still scored on pretty much every possession, but at least they had to do a little more than just have someone dribble right to the rim and hit a layup or get fouled! I would not be surprised if the Xavier "points per possession" number in the second half broke some kind of NCAA record. They had to be well above 1.5 points per possession, which is unimaginably horrific. The second half was not played at an especially fast pace. and they still put up over 60 points. It was easily the worst half of defense that I have seen in my 45 years of closely following college basketball. I can't even begin to figure out who is to blame. When things get that awful, everyone involved in the program is to blame. it's too bad, because we played our best offensive half of the season in the first half. there was actual ball movement and good shots. Epps played the way he has to play to be effective in the first half - under control, passing rather than forcing difficult shots, attacking when the right opportunity arose. But that second half defense was indescribably bad. When Claude went right to the rim on the first possession of the second half, I knew the game was over. Once a team realizes that simply attacking the rim off the dribble is a guaranteed basket/foul almost every time, our D has no chance to stop anybody. It is actually kind of shocking that every team has not done this on every possession all season. It is not hard to figure out, just watch 15 minutes of video of our D and it becomes blatantly obvious. I survived the Ewing years, so I know I can survive whatever the Cooley years become. I am still hopeful (though far from optimistic) that the incoming freshmen plus 2 or 3 high quality transfers will make us a competitive team next year. And that's all I want for next season. Just be competitive. No 20 point halftime deficits. No 60 point defensive halves. Top 100 defensive rating/overall rating on KenPom. A record within a few games of .500 in the conference, a game or two over .500 for the season. Some prayer of going to the NIT. My hopes have been so beaten down that this is all i want now - not to be the laughing stock of the conference/nation. Maybe we can get to this level next year, maybe beyond this to some slim hope of making the NCAA tournament within a couple of years. But after that second half today - this is all just stuff I hope for. I don't expect any of it - there are zero expectations, just as there were during the last two Ewing seasons. I had some slight expectations going into this season, but I'm back to expecting nothing, and just hoping for the most modest of progress next year. This is pretty much where I am with a touch more optimism perhaps for next year. The defense is absolutely shocking.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Mar 2, 2024 23:10:15 GMT -5
A tale of two halves! At least we scored 90+. I think that’s the first time this year!?
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 2, 2024 23:13:55 GMT -5
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Post by FHillsNYHoya on Mar 2, 2024 23:14:15 GMT -5
A tale of two halves! At least we scored 90+. I think that’s the first time this year!? Nope. 91 v. X on the road. Saw that one in person. Also Lemoyne I think but their 1st D1 game.
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 2, 2024 23:20:31 GMT -5
Lee Reed actually stood up and yelled at the refs down the stretch from his baseline seat near the Hoyas bench. Is that some type of breach of etiquette for an AD? I believe it's the first time I've ever seen him emote anything at all at games.
At least the first half was fun. During the meltdown after the 8 minute timeout I turned to my seatmate and said this is where we run out of gas.
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Post by drquigley on Mar 2, 2024 23:25:30 GMT -5
I agree that Cooley deserves a pass this year. But that being said I do have two questions for him. Why didn’t you play Brumbaugh more in our OOC games? And How bad is Motumbo that he didn’t deserve more minutes that Massoud? It’s obvious that Rowan has a huge ceiling and playing him more will allow him to reach his full potential sooner either this year or next. And knowing how bad our defense in the paint is did you really think we could beat any BE team other than De Paul without Ryan playing at least 10 minutes per game?
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Post by coach98 on Mar 2, 2024 23:40:43 GMT -5
Can someone start tracking the team's FG % on layups? How many did they miss tonight? How many did they surrender. I have never seen worse interior defense from a Georgetown team.
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