prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Dec 19, 2022 22:09:09 GMT -5
I disagree with all the size issues at the guard positions in college because we have seen colleges win championships with small guards in the same starting lineups throughout the years. The key is to play good team defense and for the small guards to have big cojones and be warriors, i.e., T. Allen. Our Freeman-Clark-Wright lineup would have been more successful if Freeman cared to defend. He was by far the worst defender we had seen up to Blair. Freeman’s matador defense is the reason I don’t want him to be on our coaching staff. We need coaches who can coach and care about defense. I don’t know if you are talking about the UConn small point guard but that is always complemented by a tall lengthy athletic 3pt shooting wing guard (6-4 to 6-7 and a long tall small forward (in the 6-7 to 6-9 range). I think it’s very hard to go far if you are small at the 2 and 3 position. Kansas last year had 6-5 Obgji and 6-6 Christian Braun at the 2-3 spots. Wisconsin the year they played Duke in the national championship Had 6-9 Sam Dekker at small forward. Guard sizes has been a point of contention for Hoyatalk for a very long time. I had to do the research and list all of the championship teams that won with smaller guards. I’m not searching for it again. Anyway, we have more size at the guard positions with 6-5, 6-3, 6-3, and the forwards at 6-10 and 6-11 than those championship teams. Our problem is not size.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Dec 19, 2022 23:52:28 GMT -5
I don’t know if you are talking about the UConn small point guard but that is always complemented by a tall lengthy athletic 3pt shooting wing guard (6-4 to 6-7 and a long tall small forward (in the 6-7 to 6-9 range). I think it’s very hard to go far if you are small at the 2 and 3 position. Kansas last year had 6-5 Obgji and 6-6 Christian Braun at the 2-3 spots. Wisconsin the year they played Duke in the national championship Had 6-9 Sam Dekker at small forward. Guard sizes has been a point of contention for Hoyatalk for a very long time. I had to do the research and list all of the championship teams that won with smaller guards. I’m not searching for it again. Anyway, we have more size at the guard positions with 6-5, 6-3, 6-3, and the forwards at 6-10 and 6-11 than those championship teams. Our problem is not size. Not only are we not small, but our defense is so broken that the size of our players doesn't really matter. We are not a small team. Spears is bigger than Harris and has an easier time getting to the basket than Harris did (or even Akinjo way back, for that matter). I am not entirely sure how it's calculated, but KenPom has a height ranking, and we are 37th of all programs. Yes, guys like Ryan Mutombo likely skew the number (since he doesn't actually play much), but we aren't a small team.
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Highsmith
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Post by Highsmith on Dec 20, 2022 6:52:08 GMT -5
Villanova won a National Championship with a lineup of-
6'3" 6'3" 6'5" 6'6" 6'11"
Size is just another excuse being given for poor coaching. If you have a group of players who commit to playing for a coach who knows what they are doing, it doesn't matter how big they are (to a point, obviously....not saying a team of 5'4" guys could be successful!). The coach's job is to get the most out of the players he specifically brings in to fit his system. We have a coach who can't seem to do any of those things.....plus his system on both ends is pretty suspect. We could have a team that is 6'7", 6'8", 6'10", 6'11" and 7'5" and we'd still have major issues.
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hoya9797
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 20, 2022 8:15:36 GMT -5
Guard sizes has been a point of contention for Hoyatalk for a very long time. I had to do the research and list all of the championship teams that won with smaller guards. I’m not searching for it again. Anyway, we have more size at the guard positions with 6-5, 6-3, 6-3, and the forwards at 6-10 and 6-11 than those championship teams. Our problem is not size. Not only are we not small, but our defense is so broken that the size of our players doesn't really matter. We are not a small team. Spears is bigger than Harris and has an easier time getting to the basket than Harris did (or even Akinjo way back, for that matter). I am not entirely sure how it's calculated, but KenPom has a height ranking, and we are 37th of all programs. Yes, guys like Ryan Mutombo likely skew the number (since he doesn't actually play much), but we aren't a small team. The height measurement is weighted by minutes played so Mutombo has very little impact on that.
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hoya9797
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 20, 2022 8:38:02 GMT -5
When UConn is up 15-2 at the first timeout, the spread will move to +30 and then it’s time to take the points.
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hoya9797
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 20, 2022 9:45:14 GMT -5
Let’s hope Ewing’s personal life needs some urgent attention after Christmas.
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Dec 20, 2022 9:45:55 GMT -5
When UConn is up 15-2 at the first timeout, the spread will move to +30 and then it’s time to take the points. Maybe at 33 I would do it. 30 is too low.
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hoya9797
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 20, 2022 9:48:36 GMT -5
When UConn is up 15-2 at the first timeout, the spread will move to +30 and then it’s time to take the points. Maybe at 33 I would do it. 30 is too low. There is going to be at least 10 minutes of extreme garbage time and I’d say our first team should be able to outscore their walk ons so getting this one down to about 20-23 seems very doable.
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hoyaguy
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Post by hoyaguy on Dec 20, 2022 10:30:29 GMT -5
Villanova won a National Championship with a lineup of- 6'3" 6'3" 6'5" 6'6" 6'11" Size is just another excuse being given for poor coaching. If you have a group of players who commit to playing for a coach who knows what they are doing, it doesn't matter how big they are (to a point, obviously....not saying a team of 5'4" guys could be successful!). The coach's job is to get the most out of the players he specifically brings in to fit his system. We have a coach who can't seem to do any of those things.....plus his system on both ends is pretty suspect. We could have a team that is 6'7", 6'8", 6'10", 6'11" and 7'5" and we'd still have major issues. Yeah it is a similar issue when people complain that he needs more time and better rated recruits. If you need a team of 5 and 4 stars to just get out of the basement, then you are a bad coach and cannot develop anyone well
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Post by jamaicahoya on Dec 20, 2022 10:49:47 GMT -5
This team has the ability to play competitively with anyone. Right now they lacked the discipline to sustain winning basketball---sharing the ball, committing to team and individual defense, making free throws. That is all symptoms of being a young team, young relative to how long they have been playing together. We live in an era where winning at all cost is now the norm. We ridicule and demonize our heroes, because they haven't done anything for us lately. I'm a Hoya fan, and I'll keep sending the team my good karma throughout their struggles.
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hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on Dec 20, 2022 10:58:52 GMT -5
This team has the ability to play competitively with anyone. Right now they lacked the discipline to sustain winning basketball---sharing the ball, committing to team and individual defense, making free throws. That is all symptoms of being a young team, young relative to how long they have been playing together. We live in an era where winning at all cost is now the norm. We ridicule and demonize our heroes, because they haven't done anything for us lately. I'm a Hoya fan, and I'll keep sending the team my good karma throughout their struggles. The coach chose to have a team, in your words, that is "young relative to how long they have been playing together". With 4 of our top 6 rotation guys being in at least their 4th year of college (Wahab, Heath, Akok, Mozone), plus two sophomores that played a ton last year for their previous teams (Spears and Murray), we are most certainly not a "young" team in today's college basketball landscape.
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hoya9797
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 20, 2022 10:58:52 GMT -5
This team has the ability to play competitively with anyone. No, they don’t. Right now they lacked the discipline to sustain winning basketball---sharing the ball, committing to team and individual defense, making free throws. That is all symptoms of being a young team, young relative to how long they have been playing together. We live in an era where winning at all cost is now the norm. We ridicule and demonize our heroes, because they haven't done anything for us lately. I'm a Hoya fan, and I'll keep sending the team my good karma throughout their struggles. You are one of the last holdouts making excuses for Ewing. I wonder how much longer you can last. By the way, my ridicule for Ewing is based on a five plus year track record of incompetence and selfishness, not just his latest failure.
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This Just In
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Post by This Just In on Dec 20, 2022 11:02:14 GMT -5
21 point underdogs. Is this the biggest spread in school history?
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Post by professorhoya on Dec 20, 2022 11:54:49 GMT -5
All right men, Let’s Go!
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Dec 20, 2022 11:56:52 GMT -5
We either win or lose games. Covering the spread and moral victories mean nothing.
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Post by 1427hoya on Dec 20, 2022 12:03:00 GMT -5
We either win or lose games. Covering the spread and moral victories mean nothing. We either win or most likely lose. But finding out ways to make some money off losing doesn't mean nothing. It is the best way to make the most out of a very bad situation where the team, the program, and its future is a raging dumpster fire fueled by cronyism, willful neglect, and contempt for its fans. If whatever fans are left can find a way to make $$ off it, I say go for it. That doesn't mean nothing.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Dec 20, 2022 14:37:24 GMT -5
21 point underdogs. Is this the biggest spread in school history? Bleakest game against You Con since 2004. Go Hoyas- anything is possible, and I will be rooting hard tonight.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 20, 2022 16:12:44 GMT -5
Nothing worse than having Uconn fans feeling sorry for you..
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Post by 1427hoya on Dec 20, 2022 16:19:18 GMT -5
Nothing worse than having Uconn fans feeling sorry for you.. That’s not too bad. At least they’re good. I’ve seen Syracuse and American fans feeling bad for us. By the end of this season, DePaul fans will feel bad
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Post by thedragon on Dec 20, 2022 16:58:35 GMT -5
Tonight's jerseys will have a new Louis Orr patch for the remainder of season.
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