RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Sept 25, 2021 9:17:35 GMT -5
Apparently Georgetown 2030 will include...the Darth Vader building. Maybe we are looking to collect all the most dystopian real estate in DC. If that's the case, then surely the acquisition of UDC can't be too far behind lol
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Post by SSHoya on Sept 25, 2021 9:57:38 GMT -5
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Sept 25, 2021 13:04:45 GMT -5
Worth every penny if we officially named it the Darth Vader building vs. after some donor. Queue music.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Sept 25, 2021 16:10:30 GMT -5
Apparently Georgetown 2030 will include...the Darth Vader building. Maybe we are looking to collect all the most dystopian real estate in DC. If that's the case, then surely the acquisition of UDC can't be too far behind lol From the article: "Georgetown expects “a mix of academic and administrative uses” for the building, according to an Aug. 5 filing from the university’s land-use attorneys at Goulston & Storrs PC, though that will require some interior renovations to “adapt the existing office space in the building for academic uses such as classrooms and meeting spaces.” The university’s goal is to have it ready for students and staff in time for the fall 2022 semester."Sounds like a great pick-up. Finding 325,000 SF of contiguous (and secure) space for classrooms and office space in DC is nothing short of remarkable. That's four times the size of the Car Barn, 100,000 SF larger than the ICC, or more than twice the size of Yates. Now, the question: what do they want to do with it? Law doesn't need that much space. SCS is still over on Mass Ave. Any ideas? Three contenders: 1. It's more for the McCourt School 2. It's a LOT of staff moving off Main Campus 3. It's the School of Health
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Post by RusskyHoya on Sept 26, 2021 11:05:46 GMT -5
Apparently Georgetown 2030 will include...the Darth Vader building. Maybe we are looking to collect all the most dystopian real estate in DC. If that's the case, then surely the acquisition of UDC can't be too far behind lol Now, the question: what do they want to do with it? Law doesn't need that much space. SCS is still over on Mass Ave. Any ideas? Three contenders: 1. It's more for the McCourt School 2. It's a LOT of staff moving off Main Campus 3. It's the School of Health The Darth Vader building is 111 Massachusetts Avenue NW - it's three blocks from the SCS. Anyway, the Harris Building up on Whitehaven Street is going away: www.bizjournals.com/washington/news/2021/08/16/site-near-observatory-circle-primed-for-redevelopm.htmlSo presumably this building will be hosting some or all of the refugees from there, in addition to other 'Georgetown Downtown' programs and functions.
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Post by nbhoya on Sept 27, 2021 20:03:18 GMT -5
I’m still confused as to the role of SCS beyond being a cash cow. I’m not sure it’s additive to the school’s reputation.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Sept 29, 2021 19:35:01 GMT -5
I’m still confused as to the role of SCS beyond being a cash cow. I’m not sure it’s additive to the school’s reputation. It's an interesting discussion but there is no doubt that SCS has quietly become the largest degree and certificate-granting school in the University. Here are the numbers of degree recipients in 2017 per the current Georgetown web site. It is assumed to be consistent today. Baccalaureate (CAS, SFS, MSB, NHS): 1,801 Doctoral – Research/Scholarship: 124 Doctoral: Professional Practice: 859 Masters (MBA, SCS, McCourt, some grad school): 3,750Total: 6,534
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Post by nbhoya on Sept 30, 2021 10:22:41 GMT -5
I’m still confused as to the role of SCS beyond being a cash cow. I’m not sure it’s additive to the school’s reputation. It's an interesting discussion but there is no doubt that SCS has quietly become the largest degree-granting school in the University. Here are the numbers of degree recipients in 2017 per the current Georgetown web site. It is assumed to be consistent today. Baccalaureate (CAS, SFS, MSB, NHS): 1,801 Doctoral – Research/Scholarship: 124 Doctoral: Professional Practice: 859 Masters (mostly SCS, some grad school): 3,750Total: 6,534 We definitely need to bifurcate the Graduate School and SCS in this discussion. From my view, the Graduate School, which is located IN Georgetown and is part of the traditional Georgetown campus, matriculates students who largely would be peers of Georgetown undergrad students. We can’t say the same of SCS which is removed, downtown, and has much more lax admissions standards and lacks in academic rigor.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Sept 30, 2021 11:30:02 GMT -5
We definitely need to bifurcate the Graduate School and SCS in this discussion. From my view, the Graduate School, which is located IN Georgetown and is part of the traditional Georgetown campus, matriculates students who largely would be peers of Georgetown undergrad students. We can’t say the same of SCS which is removed, downtown, and has much more lax admissions standards and lacks in academic rigor. Like many things at Georgetown, it's murky. "Graduate" could variously include the Graduate School of Arts & Sciences, MSFS, MBA, MS/EML, the graduate degree in nursing (including a sizeable 100% online program), McCourt, or SCS. The certificate program gets even cloudier. Certificate holders aren't "alumni" by a strict definition but are paying students all the same, since they can study anywhere from one week to two years and receive some recognition as a "graduate". It's difficult to find good numbers as to numbers of students in the certificate programs--no requirement to complete, of course, but tuition just the same--a certificate (not degree) in business administration starts at $6,000. A three day certificate in project management is $2,995. I found a site which reports to list degree recipients at Georgetown by major--even this takes some parsing because one undergraduate degree may be in one school and the graduate program is in another. Some of the numbers are enlightening, highlighting the rise of some traditional undergraduate majors and the relative decline of others. www.scholarships.com/colleges/georgetown-university/degrees-conferred/
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Post by DFW HOYA on Nov 1, 2021 8:59:28 GMT -5
On Friday, Rice announced a $2 billion campaign. Great use of narration.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Nov 2, 2021 9:16:46 GMT -5
I didn't realize this dude was 32. Wow.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Dec 25, 2021 17:55:57 GMT -5
We definitely need to bifurcate the Graduate School and SCS in this discussion. From my view, the Graduate School, which is located IN Georgetown and is part of the traditional Georgetown campus, matriculates students who largely would be peers of Georgetown undergrad students. We can’t say the same of SCS which is removed, downtown, and has much more lax admissions standards and lacks in academic rigor. Like many things at Georgetown, it's murky. "Graduate" could variously include the Graduate School of Arts & Sciences, MSFS, MBA, MS/EML, the graduate degree in nursing (including a sizeable 100% online program), McCourt, or SCS. Just FYI, all SFS master's programs are administratively part of the Graduate School of Arts & Sciences. The Graduate School levies a tax on the SFS in exchange for various administrative services, e.g., admissions paperwork management and various other things. When you graduate, you get both the Graduate School Dean's signature and the SFS Dean's signature on your diploma, e.g., my MA in Security Studies has 5 signatures - Ed Villani, DeGioia, Jim O'Donnell, Tim Barbari (now the dean of graduate studies at his alma mater, the Colorado School of Mines), and Bob Gallucci.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Dec 25, 2021 20:53:54 GMT -5
Just FYI, all SFS master's programs are administratively part of the Graduate School of Arts & Sciences. The Graduate School levies a tax on the SFS in exchange for various administrative services, e.g., admissions paperwork management and various other things. When you graduate, you get both the Graduate School Dean's signature and the SFS Dean's signature on your diploma, e.g., my MA in Security Studies has 5 signatures - Ed Villani, DeGioia, Jim O'Donnell, Tim Barbari (now the dean of graduate studies at his alma mater, the Colorado School of Mines), and Bob Gallucci. Good to know. Is this the same for Nursing graduate degrees? I'm guessing MBA is more closely tied to MSB, however.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Dec 25, 2021 22:58:26 GMT -5
Just FYI, all SFS master's programs are administratively part of the Graduate School of Arts & Sciences. The Graduate School levies a tax on the SFS in exchange for various administrative services, e.g., admissions paperwork management and various other things. When you graduate, you get both the Graduate School Dean's signature and the SFS Dean's signature on your diploma, e.g., my MA in Security Studies has 5 signatures - Ed Villani, DeGioia, Jim O'Donnell, Tim Barbari (now the dean of graduate studies at his alma mater, the Colorado School of Mines), and Bob Gallucci. Good to know. Is this the same for Nursing graduate degrees? I'm guessing MBA is more closely tied to MSB, however. Good question... I think it's probably the other way around? I know that MBAs have the Grad School Dean's signature on them, and the rationale they always gave us (I was on the staff of the Security Studies Program/Center for [Peace and] Security Studies for ~3.5 years) was that there were efficiencies to having admissions, academic policies, various registrar-type functions, commencement, etc. handled by the Graduate School, so the same may well make sense for MSB as well. Meanwhile, the administrative chain that falls under the dual-hatted Executive Vice President for Health Sciences and Executive Dean of the School of Medicine runs all the biomedical master's programs, so I figure NHS (soon to be, if not already(?) SoN and SoHS) falls under that? I don't think I know anyone with an MSN from Georgetown, sorry.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Dec 26, 2021 22:33:31 GMT -5
Rice isn't the only school offering free tuition to families under $100K.
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Post by hoyaguy on Dec 27, 2021 13:36:53 GMT -5
Good for them, glad some people in power in this country are turning on their brains and actually walking the walk instead of just talking, people need options and some other dominoes may begin to fall
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 4, 2022 19:43:22 GMT -5
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Post by RusskyHoya on May 8, 2022 10:41:44 GMT -5
Would be interesting to know to what extent he shopped this around, as opposed to just picking Stanford because it's the premier brand in his home area. I also can't help but think about the fact that this money won't go as far in Silicon Valley as it could elsewhere due to the psychotic housing market in the area that is only getting worse (and is, of course, deeply interconnected with climate change).
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on May 8, 2022 10:45:12 GMT -5
Do you think GU could properly manage a billion dollar donation? It would catapult our meager endowment.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Jun 14, 2022 15:56:17 GMT -5
Weird error in the copy there - 55 H Street NW is not a mile from GULC, it's like a few hundred yards away.
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