jwp91
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Post by jwp91 on May 23, 2022 23:08:22 GMT -5
If he matches his production from 2 years ago, we are a much better team.
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 23, 2022 23:23:43 GMT -5
For those who are the Georgetown basketball historians (paging DFW) is Wahab the first basketball player in Georgetown history to transfer both out and in? No-that would be Henry Hyde, the former Congressman. Georgetown to Duke and back to Georgetown. Even more obscure: there's a player who transferred to Georgetown from St. Lawrence in the 1930's, played two seasons, and then transferred back there.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on May 23, 2022 23:56:20 GMT -5
Was that like an NBA trade, Q for Carey (and a player to be named later)?
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Post by hoyazeke on May 24, 2022 6:17:03 GMT -5
I hope the offense doesn't become dumping it exclusively to Q again. Nice to have the inside presence. The black hole aspect we can do without. Hopefully he's learned the art of kicking out to shooters. There should be plenty of options for kick outs and the lane should be clear to work.
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Post by professorhoya on May 24, 2022 6:22:05 GMT -5
hWas that like an NBA trade, Q for Carey (and a player to be named later)?
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Post by professorhoya on May 24, 2022 6:23:38 GMT -5
Was that like an NBA trade, Q for Carey (and a player to be named later)? Tactically it’s a trade of Q for big Tim which is a significant upgrade Bristol for Carey Murray for Aminu Probably a wash
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Post by SSHoya on May 24, 2022 6:52:42 GMT -5
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Post by biggmanu on May 24, 2022 6:57:51 GMT -5
Luckily Murray doesn’t have to do much to put up better shooting % and efficiency numbers than Aminu did last year
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Post by seaweed on May 24, 2022 7:07:30 GMT -5
I hope the offense doesn't become dumping it exclusively to Q again. Nice to have the inside presence. The black hole aspect we can do without. Hopefully he's learned the art of kicking out to shooters. There should be plenty of options for kick outs and the lane should be clear to work. Kick out and interior screening. If he has improved in those two areas, then we are ahead of the game, as neither he nor Tim we’re ever very good at either. This group has the slashers and if he can be the hub, then great things can happen offensively
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Post by Elvado on May 24, 2022 7:19:01 GMT -5
Roster better today than yesterday.
Other than that, I will reserve comment.
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Post by miracles87 on May 24, 2022 8:15:25 GMT -5
For those who are the Georgetown basketball historians (paging DFW) is Wahab the first basketball player in Georgetown history to transfer both out and in? No-that would be Henry Hyde, the former Congressman. Georgetown to Duke and back to Georgetown. Even more obscure: there's a player who transferred to Georgetown from St. Lawrence in the 1930's, played two seasons, and then transferred back there. Henry Hyde’s first “youthful indiscretion”
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Post by 1427hoya on May 24, 2022 8:18:31 GMT -5
I really think Georgetown now has the ability to win a Big East game in 2022/23. The skid stops now!
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Post by prhoya on May 24, 2022 8:45:02 GMT -5
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on May 24, 2022 9:38:41 GMT -5
Shouldn't Q have to burn a terps jersey in front of John Carroll or maybe eat nothing but turtle soup for the first semester? I want some sort of outward penance. Yes, I am petty and ridiculous but he is going to have to earn back my support via stellar performance on the court or he will be on the bottom of my list of players I cheer for. I'm sorry Q, it's not you, it's me.....well it is kind of you and what you did but here we are.
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Post by TC on May 24, 2022 9:52:20 GMT -5
Was that like an NBA trade, Q for Carey (and a player to be named later)? Don't get me wrong, this is a huge upgrade for Georgetown and likely the difference between 2 BE wins and 6 or 7, but it is more like UMD waived Q and took our best player in free agency.
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Post by thedragon on May 24, 2022 10:11:09 GMT -5
Was that like an NBA trade, Q for Carey (and a player to be named later)? Don't get me wrong, this is a huge upgrade for Georgetown and likely the difference between 2 BE wins and 6 or 7, but it is more like UMD waived Q and took our best player in free agency. With Heath and Murray in the fold (far before Carey chose UMD) - a Center was a much bigger need than SG. Additionally, UMD wanted Q to stay - so if we are implying they waived him then we must've done the same with Carey since we recruited over him yet wanted him to stay, right?
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Post by TC on May 24, 2022 10:33:49 GMT -5
With Heath and Murray in the fold (far before Carey chose UMD) - a Center was a much bigger need than SG. Additionally, UMD wanted Q to stay - so if we are implying they waived him then we must've done the same with Carey since we recruited over him yet wanted him to stay, right? I think if UMD wanted Q to stay originally when Willard came in, they would have made that happen. It kind of seemed like when the C market evaporated, they decided he'd be a good backup. Also, we didn't recruit over Carey - other than Murray none of our adds are as good as Carey, and we don't know if Heath will be eligible or not.
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Post by RockawayHoya on May 24, 2022 10:41:36 GMT -5
First off, congrats to the staff for significantly upgrading the 5 from where it was last year. It could not have been easy given how badly burned the bridges appeared to be at one point. Glad to see that both sides came to the realization that they are better together than apart. That being said, HH's article does shed some light on one particular issue that may have caused the relationship to break in the first place. And it is particularly damning. In talking to those that know him, Wahab never felt truly comfortable at Georgetown, both on and off the court. While his relationship with Ewing wasn’t bad by any means, Wahab was disappointed at times in what he felt was a lack of individual coaching from Ewing outside of regular team practices.
In Wahab’s mind, he envisioned a tighter bond with Ewing in which more individualized attention was given to him to help him improve his game as a center for Georgetown. He didn’t feel he got that attention, and that was a source of mild discomfort for Wahab that contributed to him leaving Georgetown.I'm not going to pretend if I know if it was a bandwidth issue, COVID, effort on the part of the coaching staff, proactiveness on the part of the player, etc. But I do know that if we are going to continue to market ourselves as Big Man U, the head coach better damn well provide individualized attention to the big men, especially the starter. And that should be happening without the player explicitly asking for it, because for big men it's got to rank among the top reasons why they even choose to attend GU in the first place. We get a rare second chance here to right a wrong, and it better start happening ASAP.
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Post by thedragon on May 24, 2022 11:11:59 GMT -5
With Heath and Murray in the fold (far before Carey chose UMD) - a Center was a much bigger need than SG. Additionally, UMD wanted Q to stay - so if we are implying they waived him then we must've done the same with Carey since we recruited over him yet wanted him to stay, right? I think if UMD wanted Q to stay originally when Willard came in, they would have made that happen. It kind of seemed like when the C market evaporated, they decided he'd be a good backup. Also, we didn't recruit over Carey - other than Murray none of our adds are as good as Carey, and we don't know if Heath will be eligible or not. Heath was at 54.3 True Shooting on 20.0 Usage as a Sophomore Carey was a 58.3 TS on 19.2 Usage as a Senior Not much if any drop off there. And one could certainly argue the upside for Heath is much higher.
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Post by madhoya on May 24, 2022 11:34:49 GMT -5
I think if UMD wanted Q to stay originally when Willard came in, they would have made that happen. It kind of seemed like when the C market evaporated, they decided he'd be a good backup. Also, we didn't recruit over Carey - other than Murray none of our adds are as good as Carey, and we don't know if Heath will be eligible or not. Heath was at 54.3 True Shooting on 20.0 Usage as a Sophomore Carey was a 58.3 TS on 19.2 Usage as a Senior Not much if any drop off there. And one could certainly argue the upside for Heath is much higher. IMO J-HEAT is also a better defender than Carey…
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