Current Roster 2022

[blueandgray]

Hey gang…with all the moving parts and recent commits, thought it would be nice to have a thread dedicated to where we are at in real time. Someone want to take a stab at it?

[DFW HOYA]

Apr 30, 2022 20:12:48 GMT -5 blueandgray said:

Hey gang…with all the moving parts and recent commits, thought it would be nice to have a thread dedicated to where we are at in real time. Someone want to take a stab at it?

First pass:

Guard	Guard	Forward	Forward	Center
Harris	Spears	Murray	TBA	Mutombo
Heath	Riley	Bristol	TBA	Wilson
Anglin		TBA	Bass	Muresan

For comparison: 2021-22:

Guard	Guard	Forward	Forward	Center
Harris	Carey	Mohammed	Rice	Ighoefe
Beard	Clark	Holloway	Billingsley	Mutombo
Azinge	Riley (I)	Bristol (DNP)		Wilson
				Muresan

[wponds]

Need some versatile forwards with length and one center. Glad to see we're getting some more DMV guys though. Harris, Heath, Bristol, and Murray (I know it's B-More but still). Also Muresan for what it's worth

[617hoya]

Murray and Bristol are best at the 2 but may need to play the 3 with how this roster is shaping up. Loving Ewing’s approach of fielding a five-guard lineup next season. Let’s see how that goes for him.

[hoyainla]

Apr 30, 2022 23:42:43 GMT -5 617hoya said:

Murray and Bristol are best at the 2 but may need to play the 3 with how this roster is shaping up. Loving Ewing’s approach of fielding a five-guard lineup next season. Let’s see how that goes for him.

Harris, Heath, Spears, Murray, Anglin, Riley and Bristol all have SG mentality. They just come in different sizes and will be asked to play where needed. We don't have a 4 on the roster right now no matter how hard we try to force it upon Bass. There are still plenty of scholarships yet to be filled but as of right now roster balance is laughable.

[miracles87]

Apr 30, 2022 20:19:44 GMT -5 DFW HOYA said:

Apr 30, 2022 20:12:48 GMT -5 blueandgray said:

Hey gang…with all the moving parts and recent commits, thought it would be nice to have a thread dedicated to where we are at in real time. Someone want to take a stab at it?

First pass:

Guard	Guard	Forward	Forward	Center
Harris	Spears	Murray	TBA	Mutombo
Heath	Riley	Bristol	TBA	Wilson
Anglin		TBA	Bass	Muresan

For comparison: 2021-22:

Guard	Guard	Forward	Forward	Center
Harris	Carey	Mohammed	Rice	Ighoefe
Beard	Clark	Holloway	Billingsley	Mutombo
Azinge	Riley (I)	Bristol (DNP)		Wilson
				Muresan

Holloway started over Rice

[practice]

They have to go out and get some athletic big men who can play basketball. There have to be 200 guys in the transfer portal that are 4/5 improvements over Igoehfe, Billingsley ... and Wilson and Rice. I liked Holloway's I'm a 45 year guy at the Y game, but I'd take a legit 6'8/6'9 guy over him. I think Ryan will be a guy who will improve every year -- but worried about over-relying on him next season. Need some big guys -- Ward would have been skinny and not too much this season IMO (sort of like Sibley and likely Bass) ... let's get some Bile type for the 4 and some next best Anselem for the 5. Lord knows we have enough guys between 6'2 and 6'5 who can score and sometimes shoot. I hope someone is the clear "other PG" who can push Harris to either make a jump in his game or not start.

Also -- what is the deal with Brooks? Are the reports of him on campus with Ward accurate? Was that recruitment part of his job interview process?

[TC]

May 1, 2022 10:26:36 GMT -5 practice said:

They have to go out and get some athletic big men who can play basketball. There have to be 200 guys in the transfer portal that are 4/5 improvements over Igoehfe, Billingsley ... and Wilson and Rice. I liked Holloway's I'm a 45 year guy at the Y game, but I'd take a legit 6'8/6'9 guy over him.

The problem with the "Tyrell Ward > Collin Holloway" / underpants gnome thinking is that the logic is this :

- free up a scholarship
- ? ? ?
- profit

There's never any analysis of whether this coaching staf can actually attract the hypothetical 5* power forward they want, there's never any analysis of what the downside risk is.

[hoya73]

Apr 30, 2022 20:19:44 GMT -5 DFW HOYA said:

Apr 30, 2022 20:12:48 GMT -5 blueandgray said:

Hey gang…with all the moving parts and recent commits, thought it would be nice to have a thread dedicated to where we are at in real time. Someone want to take a stab at it?

First pass:

Guard	Guard	Forward	Forward	Center
Harris	Spears	Murray	TBA	Mutombo
Heath	Riley	Bristol	TBA	Wilson
Anglin		TBA	Bass	Muresan

For comparison: 2021-22:

Guard	Guard	Forward	Forward	Center
Harris	Carey	Mohammed	Rice	Ighoefe
Beard	Clark	Holloway	Billingsley	Mutombo
Azinge	Riley (I)	Bristol (DNP)		Wilson
				Muresan

I would list Harris, Spears and Anglin as 1 guards. Someone said they see themselves as 2's, but that's not what they said.
I would move Heath to the 2 guard column.

[hoyaboya]

May 1, 2022 10:26:36 GMT -5 practice said:

They have to go out and get some athletic big men who can play basketball. There have to be 200 guys in the transfer portal that are 4/5 improvements over Igoehfe, Billingsley ... and Wilson and Rice. I liked Holloway's I'm a 45 year guy at the Y game, but I'd take a legit 6'8/6'9 guy over him. I think Ryan will be a guy who will improve every year -- but worried about over-relying on him next season. Need some big guys -- Ward would have been skinny and not too much this season IMO (sort of like Sibley and likely Bass) ... let's get some Bile type for the 4 and some next best Anselem for the 5. Lord knows we have enough guys between 6'2 and 6'5 who can score and sometimes shoot. I hope someone is the clear "other PG" who can push Harris to either make a jump in his game or not start.

Also -- what is the deal with Brooks? Are the reports of him on campus with Ward accurate? Was that recruitment part of his job interview process?

If Jordan Brooks doesn't get you Ward, there's little point in having Brooks on the staff. He doesn't do anything for you that 500 other guys can't do. The one thing he should have been able to deliver, and that he very clearly delivered to Xavier, he couldn't deliver to Georgetown. So I don't know why you'd want a guy that clearly can't deliver on your coaching staff.

[hoyainla]

May 1, 2022 11:05:03 GMT -5 hoya73 said:

Apr 30, 2022 20:19:44 GMT -5 DFW HOYA said:

First pass:

Guard	Guard	Forward	Forward	Center
Harris	Spears	Murray	TBA	Mutombo
Heath	Riley	Bristol	TBA	Wilson
Anglin		TBA	Bass	Muresan

For comparison: 2021-22:

Guard	Guard	Forward	Forward	Center
Harris	Carey	Mohammed	Rice	Ighoefe
Beard	Clark	Holloway	Billingsley	Mutombo
Azinge	Riley (I)	Bristol (DNP)		Wilson
				Muresan

I would list Harris, Spears and Anglin as 1 guards. Someone said they see themselves as 2's, but that's not what they said.
I would move Heath to the 2 guard column.

Harris took more shots per 100 possessions than Carey. He took about 70% more shots/100 than Beard who most would agree was a pass first point guard. Anyone who has watched Dante since high school knows if he was a couple inches taller he would be a 2 not a 1. That is my thoughts on Anglin as well though I do think he has better PG potential. Primo took second most shots/100 on his team. I stand by my point that Harris and Spears have a shoot first mentality. They will be asked to play PG here which will likely lead to competition for shots. That is usually not a good thing for team success. Maybe the plan is just to put 4 guards and Ryan out there to make sure everyone stays happy.

[iowa80]

May 1, 2022 14:49:01 GMT -5 hoyainla said:

May 1, 2022 11:05:03 GMT -5 hoya73 said:

I would list Harris, Spears and Anglin as 1 guards. Someone said they see themselves as 2's, but that's not what they said.
I would move Heath to the 2 guard column.

Harris took more shots per 100 possessions than Carey. He took about 70% more shots/100 than Beard who most would agree was a pass first point guard. Anyone who has watched Dante since high school knows if he was a couple inches taller he would be a 2 not a 1. That is my thoughts on Anglin as well though I do think he has better PG potential. Primo took second most shots/100 on his team. I stand by my point that Harris and Spears have a shoot first mentality. They will be asked to play PG here which will likely lead to competition for shots. That is usually not a good thing for team success. Maybe the plan is just to put 4 guards and Ryan out there to make sure everyone stays happy.

Dante took too many shots for my taste last year, particularly with some time on the clock, but he took a lot more shots/100 last year than he did as a frosh.  Hopefully he'll be more comfortable passing to different teammates such as Heath and Murray.   Primo was even more shoot first than Dante, and I have no idea how that will play out.

[jwp91]

How many people see more conference wins with what is on the roster now?

[bicentennial]

I do but not because the roster at this point is better. Statistically teams like people regress towards the middle point or mean. It is really hard to lose twenty games in a row two years in a row. Not sure if a team has ever gone undefeated two years in a row in conference. I suppose we could be the first. Depaul went 0-18 and followed it with 1-17 and 1-17 in conference. The second year was in part under the same coach but they fired him mid season and the assistant who was promoted was let go so it was under 3 coaches. Without a significant upgrade in coaches and players would think 4-16 would be an average expectation. I suspect none of the statistical gurus has ever looked at what the next year's expectation is after a winless season.

[bdillon20]

I’m going to be optimistic here. What they have now is a bunch of guys who can handle pass and shoot. Spread teams out and create. Something they have severely lacked in Ewing’s tenure.

[nbhoya]

So… no chance Aminu returns?

[prhoya]

May 1, 2022 19:55:50 GMT -5 nbhoya said:

So… no chance Aminu returns?

Correct me if I’m wrong, but if he decides to return to college and doesn’t enter the transfer portal tonight before 11:59 pm, his choices are play immediately at GU or transfer, but have to sit for a year.

[DownTownJoeyBrown]

May 1, 2022 17:38:30 GMT -5 bdillon20 said:

I’m going to be optimistic here. What they have now is a bunch of guys who can handle pass and shoot. Spread teams out and create. Something they have severely lacked in Ewing’s tenure.

I'm as concerned as the next guy regarding our frontcount but agree regarding the optimism with our backcourt. Seems like we have 7 solid guards/wings that will be a significant improvement from last year. I also don't see a problem with 3 of those 7 being on the floor at all times. I know it's a BIG if and the pool is getting smaller but bring in a starting caliper 4 & 5 and this team is really in business.

Missing on Ward really stings but the reality is we should be okay at wing and Heath seems like a great pickup that's been overshadowed by the Ward miss. Pretend for a minute that Ward never even considered the Hoyas and I think we would be pretty happy with where things have fallen 1-3 to this point (Murray, Spears, Heath). Fingers crossed for a big time 4 or 5 (maybe Q as a solid 5 paired with a strong 4) and things might turn out pretty well for us

I'm typically pretty pessimistic but am going to hold out hope, at least until all the chips have fallen

[Bigs"R"Us]

As solid as our backcourt is now, we are going nowhere with what we currently have up front.

[DownTownJoeyBrown]

May 2, 2022 8:01:37 GMT -5 Bigs"R"Us said:

As solid as our backcourt is now, we are going nowhere with what we currently have up front.

This times 100. But it only takes one or two strong transfers to turn this into a tourney team