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Post by tafkashfsee on Feb 21, 2022 10:18:43 GMT -5
Liberty Freeman is a bad boy. He's dangerous! We have to put Aminu on him and maybe coach should put "the long arms of the law" on him too. I'm talking about Malcolm. We should play some zone sometimes too to slow Depaul down and to be able to spot their three point shooters ahead of time. Oh yeah and we can't forget the full court pressure occasionally. We don't need to do the full court pressure every damn play though. That's too much and it is going to wear the boys out and we also have a short bench. We need to play like seven guys and all of them must be guys that can move. If we bring in Mutombo, it's gotta be spot moments when we need offense. Mutombo often times hurts us on defense especially when the other team is shooting threes. Mutombo does a good job of protecting the middle though. However, this Depaul team is a fast and quick team and we need to have guys who are fast and quick to match their fast and quickness. On offense, Dante needs to keep doing what he has been doing and that is to attack the basket. Look for his mid range jumper. When Dante is scoring, it keeps the pressure off of Carey and Mohammed because guys can't double our "Dynamic Duo" in Carey and Mohammed. Coach needs to get Rice wide open shots for his threes and that means, somebody gotta set some nice solid screens and picks to get Rice a good look. We gotta keep attacking the basket and that goes for Holloway and Aminu. When Dante penetrates and sucks the defense in, he must pass the ball to the shooters for their wide open threes. He doesn't always have to go all the way in either because sometimes the defense will collaspe as soon as they see he has daylight, when that happens he's got to get the ball to an open Rice or an open Carey immediately. Carey just got to keep being Carey. He's terrific and should be an all conference candidate this year. Mohammed's gotta keep playing his game, keep attacking, playing solid D and keep on REBOUND! We should be set! It's nice to see a post about the game and the game strategy. I haven't really looked at the matchups, but I am hoping for minutes distribution something like this: 1. Dante, 30; Tyler, 10 2. Donald, 30; Tyler 10 3. Aminu, 20; Kaiden 20 4. Collin, 15; Aminu, 10; Jalin 5 5. Tim, 10; Ryan, 10; Malcolm, 10; Collin, 7; Jalin, 3 Man you and I are seeing eye to eye. The only thing is for me Collin would get more minutes. Collin needs to work that booty-do inside like Roosevelt did for Butler back in the day. He can dominate inside but he just needs to watch some tape of that good ol' Roosevelt to learn how to work that rear to get easy layups. He's backing them down but he ain't got the hang of it just yet. But when he does, watch out!
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Post by EasyEd on Feb 21, 2022 13:27:10 GMT -5
I'd like to see some plays to set Collin up for threes.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Feb 21, 2022 13:55:08 GMT -5
I'd like to see some plays to set Collin up for threes. I agree with that Ed. Seems to have a solid stroke... ...and beyond that as the competition picked up from OOC to BE he has really struggled at times down low (w/the exception of the first Nova game where he was excellent). He continues that methodical back down over and over again that just doesn't work against more athletic kids. Even before these last 2 games he wasn't even getting to the FT line like he was before due to that. He's forcing too much and really never kicks out when stuck. To your point a 41% 3pt shooter this year a few more set looks for him would help this offense....
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Post by rhw485 on Feb 22, 2022 8:16:24 GMT -5
I'd like to see some plays to set Collin up for threes. I agree with that Ed. Seems to have a solid stroke... ...and beyond that as the competition picked up from OOC to BE he has really struggled at times down low (w/the exception of the first Nova game where he was excellent). He continues that methodical back down over and over again that just doesn't work against more athletic kids. Even before these last 2 games he wasn't even getting to the FT line like he was before due to that. He's forcing too much and really never kicks out when stuck. To your point a 41% 3pt shooter this year a few more set looks for him would help this offense.... A little bit of a pet peeve of mine. Yes it's easy to say Holloway should shoot more threes, but the question is how do you generate those open looks for him. I bucket 3 point shooters into three categories 1. Catch and Shoot standstill shooters 2. Can shoot on the move / off a screen 3. Can shoot a pull up three off the dribble. To me, Holloway is clearly in bucket 1, and that is not a knock on him, it's a testament to his work ethic that he simply added that in one offseason. But that basically means his looks have to be generated by others and you can't really run plays for him to get a 3 point look. And it really comes back to what can you do to force the defense to help off shooters like Holloway. Unfortunately we don't have anyone who can consistently get to the paint and threaten the defense to force help and get the defense rotating to create those looks. You see it a few times a game but not consistently enough. Maybe you'd say pick and pop where Holloway is the screener, I think most teams would just switch that action and sag off Dante. For Holloway I'd like to see him have a better plan at attacking a closeout. He gets into the paint but I haven't seen him make the extra pass so it results in him challenging a big at the rim which isn't a good outcome. For avoidance of doubt, I think Holloway's progress from last season to this season on the whole is unbelievably impressive. I really hope he sees Justin Lewis as where his game should be heading.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Feb 22, 2022 8:40:17 GMT -5
I'd like to see some plays to set Collin up for threes. I agree with that Ed. Seems to have a solid stroke... ...and beyond that as the competition picked up from OOC to BE he has really struggled at times down low (w/the exception of the first Nova game where he was excellent). He continues that methodical back down over and over again that just doesn't work against more athletic kids. Even before these last 2 games he wasn't even getting to the FT line like he was before due to that. He's forcing too much and really never kicks out when stuck. To your point a 41% 3pt shooter this year a few more set looks for him would help this offense.... It also highlights why a 6'6 below the rim player, while very skilled, is hard to march out there as your starting 4. He has improved his body since last year, but it has always been clear he is a situational sub rather then a starter. He looked great against fellow lesser athletes in OOC, but his limitations aren't going away in that regard. If he builds his body into a rock over the next few years, maybe he can bully some of that stuff up there but the long 6'9 leaper is going to make his inside game difficult if not obsolete.
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Post by bicentennial on Feb 22, 2022 15:23:57 GMT -5
I agree with that Ed. Seems to have a solid stroke... ...and beyond that as the competition picked up from OOC to BE he has really struggled at times down low (w/the exception of the first Nova game where he was excellent). He continues that methodical back down over and over again that just doesn't work against more athletic kids. Even before these last 2 games he wasn't even getting to the FT line like he was before due to that. He's forcing too much and really never kicks out when stuck. To your point a 41% 3pt shooter this year a few more set looks for him would help this offense.... It also highlights why a 6'6 below the rim player, while very skilled, is hard to march out there as your starting 4. He has improved his body since last year, but it has always been clear he is a situational sub rather then a starter. He looked great against fellow lesser athletes in OOC, but his limitations aren't going away in that regard. If he builds his body into a rock over the next few years, maybe he can bully some of that stuff up there but the long 6'9 leaper is going to make his inside game difficult if not obsolete. I don't think I agree. I look at Perry McDonald and his skillset and I see a place where Holloway could excel particularly since even in the paint the refs call more fouls!
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Post by madgesiq92 on Feb 22, 2022 16:25:44 GMT -5
Different players, Holloway a finesse player--McDonald was a beast. I think Holloway will have a good career, but not the same type of players at all. McDonald averaged just under 7 boards a game in 27 minutes as a senior. I think Colin averages around 2 in similar minutes.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 22, 2022 17:19:17 GMT -5
McDonald was quick, chiseled and tough as nails.
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Post by tafkashfsee on Feb 22, 2022 17:57:13 GMT -5
McDonald was also one smooth cool dude, dapper and debonair.
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Post by iowa80 on Feb 22, 2022 18:11:04 GMT -5
McDonald was quick, chiseled and tough as nails. I think the term “glue guy” came along later, but that’s what he was in 86-87 as Reggie W’s wingman. Tillman & Bryant we’re Frosh, Jackson and Smith Sophs just coming up. It’s good to focus on the present, but what a team. Oh, and Ronnie High. No one there over 6-8.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Feb 22, 2022 18:27:13 GMT -5
McDonald was quick, chiseled and tough as nails. I believe a Golden Gloves boxer too.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Feb 23, 2022 9:06:40 GMT -5
I don’t know why I’m so antsy for this game lol. Waiting after a Saturday game until Thursday is brutal. Somehow I can’t look away from this car wreck of a season.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Feb 23, 2022 9:19:40 GMT -5
We need to avoid the huge run that often kills us. If we play close to how we played against Nova, we ought to be in decent shape. Finish strong Hoyas!
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Post by rhw485 on Feb 23, 2022 10:30:46 GMT -5
Man this really feels like this is it. Regardless of what you feel about the program currently, nobody wants to see 0-19, especially for the players sake. - I really felt like in the 1st game DePaul didn't do much against us in the halfcourt. But man they really got out in transition, took advantage of turnovers, and ultimately ran us off the court in the 2nd half. With only 7 scholarship players that really isn't acceptable. Hope to see a better effort in limiting turnovers and getting back in transition
- And of course they'll have Freeman Liberty in this game, although maybe triple double Jones doesn't play while recovering from an ankle injury. Nobody on this board is going to show sympathy for DePaul, but they just can't get their full roster healthy at the same time. And they've really been so close in all of these games in their losing streak.
- From an Xs and Os perspective, I'm wondering is Ewing ready to proactively go small? He has definitely shown a willingness to do it more, but it always feels in response to falling behind when he wants to speed the game up or only to match up when a team goes small against us. Would he actually go small and put pressure on Ogenda and Anei, DePaul's centers? I don't see those guys chasing a Holloway or Rice out to the 3 point line. My gut tells me no but it's something I'd like to see
- And the cherry on top, Stubblefield just landed his first big recruit, Zion Cruz who's a top 50 player for next year. He would rank as the 2nd best recruit for Ewing, only behind Aminu, and Stubblefield did it in year 1. When people argue recruits don't want to play for Gtown and try to disassociate that fact from the current coaching staff, this feels like pretty damning evidence to the contrary
Get it done guys, Hoya Saxa
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 23, 2022 16:26:08 GMT -5
I'm posting thus here because Coach Crouch liked it, hopefully he's trying to teach it to his team...
Its close to perfection btw..
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Post by hoyajmw on Feb 23, 2022 17:27:43 GMT -5
Just saw point spread for tomorrow night on something called “Oddsshark” which says “consensus” has us as 2.5 point underdogs (fill in your own comment). Over/Under of 146.5.
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Post by iowa80 on Feb 23, 2022 19:28:59 GMT -5
Just saw point spread for tomorrow night on something called “Oddsshark” which says “consensus” has us as 2.5 point underdogs (fill in your own comment). Over/Under of 146.5. Remember Gerald Strine, who used to talk about "mortal locks"? This is one for the Hoyas. Bet the house! Or don't.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Feb 23, 2022 21:29:17 GMT -5
Must win if Ewing has any hope of coaching next season.
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Post by hoyaboya on Feb 23, 2022 21:36:34 GMT -5
Must win if Ewing has any hope of coaching next season. He’s not coaching here next season. A victory over a bad and injury-riddled DePaul team won’t change that.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 23, 2022 22:33:15 GMT -5
Must win if Ewing has any hope of coaching next season. $3.6M for 1 BE win!!! The bar is no longer low; it hit the floor.
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