hoyaboya
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0-20
Jan 18, 2022 9:03:58 GMT -5
Post by hoyaboya on Jan 18, 2022 9:03:58 GMT -5
This is why 0-20 is likely not an option for the Hoyas: "As you can see, Georgetown has no room left in the schedule to make up games. So if the Hoyas hit another COVID pause, or any of their opponents do, those games likely won’t be played. What we’re looking at is that in all likelihood we already have four games that will end up as cancelations this season: Providence at Creighton UConn at Providence Providence at Seton Hall Xavier at Georgetown" www.vuhoops.com/2022/1/18/22888909/villanova-basketball-big-east-regular-season-champions
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 18, 2022 10:25:07 GMT -5
We are going to win 2-3 just by being hot. It’s bound to happen. Rice gets hot while one or two others play well. The other team has a cold night from three.
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drquigley
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0-20
Jan 18, 2022 10:49:49 GMT -5
Post by drquigley on Jan 18, 2022 10:49:49 GMT -5
I agree that we will probably win a few games. Also, once we get everyone back healthy AND they have a chance to practice together we will look a lot better than we have so far. That said, there is little margin for error with this team so a bad game by one of our starters that isn't offset by a good game from a reserve spells disaster for this group.
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0-20
Jan 18, 2022 21:52:19 GMT -5
Post by 4aks on Jan 18, 2022 21:52:19 GMT -5
how did the Big East rank in strength in each of those eras ? how many BE teams in top 50 each year ? I suspect the BE is relatively much more competitive, while schools like Kansas, Oklahoma have declined in strength Let’s address the elephant in the room. What would need to happen this season for the university and Ewing to part ways at the end of the season? Is there a scenario where the university initiates a change? Just like we saw in 2004 and 2017, uncomfortable noise all around Healy Building will move mountains. From 2014: thehoya.com/13-years-in-degioia-outlasts-predecessors-in-presidents-office/20 years and counting... Maybe this can help: Craig Esherick’s BE overall record (1999-2004): BE overall 46-59 = .438 BE reg. sea. 41–53 = .436John Thompson III’s BE overall record (2005-2017): BE overall 146-106 = .579 BE reg. sea. 131–94 = .580Patrick Ewing's BE overall record: BE regular season w/ BET: 30-50 = .375BE regular season w/o BET: 26-47 = .356There is no way to sugar-coat it. His record is so bad compared to his fired predecessors' records.
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blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Jan 18, 2022 22:16:07 GMT -5
I wonder how much better we would be if we had Qudus. I wish we had him and I am sure he regrets he transferred.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Jan 18, 2022 23:24:21 GMT -5
I wonder how much better we would be if we had Qudus. I wish we had him and I am sure he regrets he transferred. I think we would be much improved on offense since being able to dump the ball inside to Q regularly and let him work as we did last year would be a better strategy than whatever it is we're doing right now. Defensively we would be marginally better as well.
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Bigs"R"Us
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0-20
Jan 19, 2022 1:04:02 GMT -5
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 19, 2022 1:04:02 GMT -5
Not sure if we would be much better if we’d continue to dump it down to Q regularly only to have him predictably shoot it. He’d also clog the lane for Mohammed. Definitely would be an upgrade to anything we currently have at center. Sad for both parties involved.
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Post by trillesthoya on Jan 19, 2022 1:20:06 GMT -5
I wonder how much better we would be if we had Qudus. I wish we had him and I am sure he regrets he transferred. We’d probably be comfortably in the Butler/St. John’s/DePaul range of schools this season. Aka not good but certainly a significant improvement over what we’re seeing this year. Sure he’d clog the lanes but our centers and small ball 5 are already doing that. Having a true offensive threat at center would completely change the flow - teams would have to double him which would give our wings more room to operate (even if he never would pass it). On defense he’s not good but certainly way better than any of our other options.
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Post by hoyaphan on Jan 20, 2022 9:44:26 GMT -5
It sucks because we all love Patrick Ewing . But for crying out loud when is enough enough ? They are the worst major confenece team in college basketball.
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GUMBA
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Post by GUMBA on Jan 20, 2022 21:23:35 GMT -5
I was a season ticket holder for 27 years until Pat was hired. I disagreed with the process and the choice. I decided not to renew my ticket package and stayed off this board for the past five years out of respect for Ewing’s legacy. If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all. I still root for the Hoyas to win each and every game. I remain a die-hard fan and my loving wife even gave me “I came as a shadow” for Christmas this year. Great read. I’m posting again because it is abundantly clear the program won’t succeed with the current staff. Whether we end up 0-20 or 5-15 should not make a difference. The constant player transfers and on the court product indicate that something is wrong with the approach. Coach John Thompson, Jr. said that “people only listen to you if you win.” Nobody is listening or even looking to the Hoyas to win now. The University invests heavily in the program to compete at a high major level. The sub .500 number shows that Georgetown is simply not competitive - second to last or perhaps last for the major league programs. I’m sure the staff wants a shot at one more season to prove themselves, but the best case scenario is a voluntary change at the end of the season. Coaches Esherick and JTIII were fired. I don’t want to see that happen to the greatest Hoya that ever stepped on the hardwood in McDonough Gymnasium.
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 21, 2022 0:06:51 GMT -5
I have nothing positive to say about the program and will no longer post this season. I just hope we can get back to our winning ways. 🙏🏻
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hoyajmw
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0-20
Jan 21, 2022 9:02:20 GMT -5
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Post by hoyajmw on Jan 21, 2022 9:02:20 GMT -5
In case anyone (else) was wondering, the most Big East games the Hoyas have lost in a row is 8 (by an average of more than 11 pts/game) in '03-04 to close out the Esherick era. Second most is 7 in '19-20 (by slightly less than 10 per game). JTII ended his era on a six game to the bad Big East streak in '16-17 (slightly less than a 10PPG margin) and matched it the year before to close the Big East regular season (before beating DePaul to open the Big East). Three times there has been a 5 game losing streak ('17-18, '04-05, and rather notably JTJr. in '92-93, by a whopping almost 14PPG). Of some historical interest, Jr. also lost his last four Big East games in '98-99 immediately before resigning. In case any of you CFO types out there wanted to double check my math (always a good idea) or otherwise were just curious about something in the past, the link below is really a goldmine... www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/georgetown/2004-schedule.html
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617hoya
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Jan 21, 2022 9:55:04 GMT -5
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Post by 617hoya on Jan 21, 2022 9:55:04 GMT -5
The march continues! 😬
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Jan 25, 2022 23:04:51 GMT -5
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 25, 2022 23:04:51 GMT -5
Saw nothing tonight to change my mind. Poor fundamentals, poor decisions, poor basketball sense. A team with our very limited talents can't get outhustled game after game.
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daveg023
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0-20
Jan 26, 2022 9:16:28 GMT -5
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Post by daveg023 on Jan 26, 2022 9:16:28 GMT -5
If a win against Butler or St John’s the following weekend doesn’t come, then 0-20 will be a real possibility. After those two games it’s pretty much hope to get one off DePaul, and the time those games come along, where will morale be?!
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hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on Jan 26, 2022 9:23:34 GMT -5
I don’t believe we will go winless but there is no saving this season. I think we will get 2 or 3. Butler, DePaul and one we don’t expect. StJs or Provy.
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blueandgray
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0-20
Jan 26, 2022 9:59:46 GMT -5
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Post by blueandgray on Jan 26, 2022 9:59:46 GMT -5
Is this the longest losing streak since the Thompson era?
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hoyajmw
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0-20
Jan 26, 2022 10:06:29 GMT -5
Post by hoyajmw on Jan 26, 2022 10:06:29 GMT -5
Is this the longest losing streak since the Thompson era? Not yet. We lost nine (8 Big East and Temple) in ‘04 to end the season and the Esherick era
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 29, 2022 14:29:40 GMT -5
We took a big step toward this today. Only DePaul might stand in our way.
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hoyaroc
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Post by hoyaroc on Jan 29, 2022 14:31:44 GMT -5
We took a big step toward this today. Only DePaul might stand in our way. Keep the faith. Let’s go Hoyas!
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