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Post by hoyainla on Nov 16, 2021 13:22:12 GMT -5
This is a geezer reply. If you're going to be in Chinatown anyway why not just go to the box office and get a ticket?? The issue is more that most years (even years we were a good team), you could get tickets to these early (supposed to be) cupcake games for $10 or less either in the non-lower bowl or through resellers like stubhub. But now they're only officially selling lower bowl tickets through ticketmaster (or the box office) and there is no stubhub supply with the changes in season ticketing this year. I'd love to watch this game in person, but $30 after fees is too much for me and likely for a lot of fans. There are $12 tickets on StubHub right now. If you need me to buy you one just DM me.
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Post by SDHoya on Nov 16, 2021 13:28:17 GMT -5
Forgive my ignorance as former District resident--but what is the ticket policy change this season? Something along the lines of contactless digital tickets only, which can only be accessed through the Ticketmaster app (thus cutting off the possibility of secondary re-sellers like Stubhub)? Are there any secondary markets available to those who want to buy/sell? I think he's referring to the free tickets offered to season ticket holders for some games, plus the opportunity to "upgrade" to lower bowl seats? I was referring to what was being discussed above about ticketing changes eliminating Stubhub as a secondary market for Hoyas tickets. If I understood correctly the info on the link SSHoya posted, there will be some way for season tickets holders to re-sell their unused tickets, but it probably will only be through the Ticketmaster portal. Meaning that if you want single game tickets, one way or another, Ticketmaster controls the transaction and rakes in the fees.
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Post by smokeyjack on Nov 16, 2021 13:32:59 GMT -5
Nothing is a must win, but if we lose to American, it basically confirms we are in for a long season. One can excuse the Dartmouth loss as nerves, bad luck, playing in Capital One the first time, but that doesn't work as much if you lose to another pretty weak team. For what it's worth, I do NOT think we are as bad as we looked against Dartmouth, and think we will play better than that tomorrow. That doesn't mean we willl win, but I do think we will play better. Duke lost early in the 2019-2020 season to Stephen F. Austen (ranked 264), and they ended up finishing the year ranked 2 on KenPom. So yeah, it's a loss we can overcome, but throw in another and it begins to get incredibly hard. This is why turning things around quickly is crucial. The Thompson/Ewing haters are already relishing a loss and have written out their post game posts. If we win they will simply tuck it into their drawer until the next loss. Personally, I hope the team looks completely different tonight, wins by 30 and the Dartmouth debacle is forgotten forever. Relative to opinions, I'm just going to judge Pat on his results. But I thought this was a really weak team the minute Tre King was lost. He would have been likely our leading scorer and rebounder and only big with any real experience. Somebody on here laughed at me when I said he was a like an 8/10-game swing guy, but games like Dartmouth and American are exactly kind we don't lose with King in the lineup. It's not that I "hate" Ig or Mutombo. But one has been playing hoops for like 20 minutes and the other is a true frosh. This was always going to be a tough year with all the turnover once Wahab bolted. But it went from tough to impossible IMO the moment King was lost as well.
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Post by hoyainla on Nov 16, 2021 13:34:35 GMT -5
I think he's referring to the free tickets offered to season ticket holders for some games, plus the opportunity to "upgrade" to lower bowl seats? I was referring to what was being discussed above about ticketing changes eliminating Stubhub as a secondary market for Hoyas tickets. If I understood correctly the info on the link SSHoya posted, there will be some way for season tickets holders to re-sell their unused tickets, but it probably will only be through the Ticketmaster portal. Meaning that if you want single game tickets, one way or another, Ticketmaster controls the transaction and rakes in the fees. I could be wrong but I think what he means is that since you no longer have to buy cupcake games as part of the season tickets then less will make their way to secondary. There are a few tickets on Stubhub now and I will even buy him one. We can't afford to lose any more fans at this point so I will do my part.
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Post by professorhoya on Nov 16, 2021 13:48:05 GMT -5
The Thompson/Ewing haters are already relishing a loss and have written out their post game posts. If we win they will simply tuck it into their drawer until the next loss. Personally, I hope the team looks completely different tonight, wins by 30 and the Dartmouth debacle is forgotten forever. Relative to opinions, I'm just going to judge Pat on his results. But I thought this was a really weak team the minute Tre King was lost. He would have been likely our leading scorer and rebounder and only big with any real experience. Somebody on here laughed at me when I said he was a like an 8/10-game swing guy, but games like Dartmouth and American are exactly kind we don't lose with King in the lineup. It's not that I "hate" Ig or Mutombo. But one has been playing hoops for like 20 minutes and the other is a true frosh. This was always going to be a tough year with all the turnover once Wahab bolted. But it went from tough to impossible IMO the moment King was lost as well. Agreed. And we didn't even have Ig for Dartmouth. When I saw that Malcolm Wilson was starting I knew we were in trouble.
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Post by ksf42001 on Nov 16, 2021 13:59:54 GMT -5
The issue is more that most years (even years we were a good team), you could get tickets to these early (supposed to be) cupcake games for $10 or less either in the non-lower bowl or through resellers like stubhub. But now they're only officially selling lower bowl tickets through ticketmaster (or the box office) and there is no stubhub supply with the changes in season ticketing this year. I'd love to watch this game in person, but $30 after fees is too much for me and likely for a lot of fans. There are $12 tickets on StubHub right now. If you need me to buy you one just DM me. Haha, guys I'm not a charity case, I'm just "didn't buy season tickets this year to help pay for a kitchen remodel" poor right now. My larger point is that this season there's a noticeably higher barrier to entry to games than there have been in previous years, and maybe that's not worth the lower bowl looking slightly less empty on TV...
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Nov 16, 2021 14:41:56 GMT -5
Need to win tonight to reset things. Don’t want to give two away to teams we should beat.
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Post by prhoya on Nov 16, 2021 15:10:59 GMT -5
When I saw that Malcolm Wilson was starting I knew we were in trouble. So what’s your feeling tonight?
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Post by HometownHoya on Nov 16, 2021 15:16:34 GMT -5
When I saw that Malcolm Wilson was starting I knew we were in trouble. So what’s your feeling tonight? I hope we start Ryan if Timmy is out. I'm proud of Malcolm for sticking it through and he has developed but our season and future hinges on if Ryan can grow into a 20+ minute contributor.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Nov 16, 2021 15:38:53 GMT -5
So what’s your feeling tonight? I hope we start Ryan if Timmy is out. I'm proud of Malcolm for sticking it through and he has developed but our season and future hinges on if Ryan can grow into a 20+ minute contributor. Totally agree and if Tim is available it really should be Ryan backing him up. You can see the potential there... I appreciate Malcolm's dedication to this program but if his offensive game hasn't developed to this point then he is best in spot situational minutes right now...
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Post by drquigley on Nov 16, 2021 15:39:30 GMT -5
You know I also felt that this is a "must win". But let's step back. Face it, this team isn't going anywhere this year. We have 20+ games yet to play. Sure it will feel good to beat AU but the only real concern we should have is whether this team (and the frosh recruits) will be better in February and will it hold together, with a few key recruits - and no transfers (I'm talking to you Mohamed), to be truly competitive next year. I know there will be screaming for Ewing's head if we only win 6-7 games this year but if we win those games later in the year against quality BE opponents and win a game in the BE tournament then I think we fans should relax and wait. As a NY Mets fan from the beginning I know what a complete rebuild feels like. It's not pretty but if you stick with your team the reward is that much sweeter.
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Post by smokeyjack on Nov 16, 2021 16:05:21 GMT -5
You know I also felt that this is a "must win". But let's step back. Face it, this team isn't going anywhere this year. We have 20+ games yet to play. Sure it will feel good to beat AU but the only real concern we should have is whether this team (and the frosh recruits) will be better in February and will it hold together, with a few key recruits - and no transfers (I'm talking to you Mohamed), to be truly competitive next year. I know there will be screaming for Ewing's head if we only win 6-7 games this year but if we win those games later in the year against quality BE opponents and win a game in the BE tournament then I think we fans should relax and wait. As a NY Mets fan from the beginning I know what a complete rebuild feels like. It's not pretty but if you stick with your team the reward is that much sweeter. Really hard to swallow that mentality, however logical, when it's Year 5 and not Year 1. Really, really hard.
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Post by hoyainla on Nov 16, 2021 16:30:37 GMT -5
You know I also felt that this is a "must win". But let's step back. Face it, this team isn't going anywhere this year. We have 20+ games yet to play. Sure it will feel good to beat AU but the only real concern we should have is whether this team (and the frosh recruits) will be better in February and will it hold together, with a few key recruits - and no transfers (I'm talking to you Mohamed), to be truly competitive next year. I know there will be screaming for Ewing's head if we only win 6-7 games this year but if we win those games later in the year against quality BE opponents and win a game in the BE tournament then I think we fans should relax and wait. As a NY Mets fan from the beginning I know what a complete rebuild feels like. It's not pretty but if you stick with your team the reward is that much sweeter. This is college basketball. You can overhaul a team in 1 year. Look at Marquette. That is not the best way to do it but it certainly isn't losing to Dartmouth and American and hoping you get to 7 wins with a couple of decent Big East wins in year 5. You have to be able to attract recruits and transfers. People don't want to play for a 7 win team. Most teams get that reset and the ability to sell new hope with a coaching change. They don't get that hope from a couple decent conference wins. Is this game must win? No because as you say this team is going nowhere but to pretend that pre conference doesn't matter is a loser mentality and we already have enough of that going on.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Nov 16, 2021 16:33:25 GMT -5
How long can you stick with, “we’ll get ‘em next season?”
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Nov 16, 2021 16:36:00 GMT -5
You know I also felt that this is a "must win". But let's step back. Face it, this team isn't going anywhere this year. We have 20+ games yet to play. Sure it will feel good to beat AU but the only real concern we should have is whether this team (and the frosh recruits) will be better in February and will it hold together, with a few key recruits - and no transfers (I'm talking to you Mohamed), to be truly competitive next year. I know there will be screaming for Ewing's head if we only win 6-7 games this year but if we win those games later in the year against quality BE opponents and win a game in the BE tournament then I think we fans should relax and wait. As a NY Mets fan from the beginning I know what a complete rebuild feels like. It's not pretty but if you stick with your team the reward is that much sweeter. This is college basketball. You can overhaul a team in 1 year. Look at Marquette. That is not the best way to do it but it certainly isn't losing to Dartmouth and American and hoping you get to 7 wins with a couple of decent Big East wins in year 5. You have to be able to attract recruits and transfers. People don't want to play for a 7 win team. Most teams get that reset and the ability to sell new hope with a coaching change. They don't get that hope from a couple decent conference wins. Is this game must win? No because as you say this team is going nowhere but to pretend that pre conference doesn't matter is a loser mentality and we already have enough of that going on. Marquette lost the Hauser twins too.
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Post by hoyazeke on Nov 16, 2021 16:37:16 GMT -5
You know I also felt that this is a "must win". But let's step back. Face it, this team isn't going anywhere this year. We have 20+ games yet to play. Sure it will feel good to beat AU but the only real concern we should have is whether this team (and the frosh recruits) will be better in February and will it hold together, with a few key recruits - and no transfers (I'm talking to you Mohamed), to be truly competitive next year. I know there will be screaming for Ewing's head if we only win 6-7 games this year but if we win those games later in the year against quality BE opponents and win a game in the BE tournament then I think we fans should relax and wait. As a NY Mets fan from the beginning I know what a complete rebuild feels like. It's not pretty but if you stick with your team the reward is that much sweeter. Really hard to swallow that mentality, however logical, when it's Year 5 and not Year 1. Really, really hard. smokey this is not a true Year 5. I know people don't want to accept this as a reality but Ewing's clock got pushed back a little. Unless this team finishes the way it started Ewing has 3 years to right this ship. I personally love the pieces if we do indeed get 2yrs out of Aminu.
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Post by hoyazeke on Nov 16, 2021 16:43:07 GMT -5
You know I also felt that this is a "must win". But let's step back. Face it, this team isn't going anywhere this year. We have 20+ games yet to play. Sure it will feel good to beat AU but the only real concern we should have is whether this team (and the frosh recruits) will be better in February and will it hold together, with a few key recruits - and no transfers (I'm talking to you Mohamed), to be truly competitive next year. I know there will be screaming for Ewing's head if we only win 6-7 games this year but if we win those games later in the year against quality BE opponents and win a game in the BE tournament then I think we fans should relax and wait. As a NY Mets fan from the beginning I know what a complete rebuild feels like. It's not pretty but if you stick with your team the reward is that much sweeter. This is college basketball. You can overhaul a team in 1 year. Look at Marquette. That is not the best way to do it but it certainly isn't losing to Dartmouth and American and hoping you get to 7 wins with a couple of decent Big East wins in year 5. You have to be able to attract recruits and transfers. People don't want to play for a 7 win team. Most teams get that reset and the ability to sell new hope with a coaching change. They don't get that hope from a couple decent conference wins. Is this game must win? No because as you say this team is going nowhere but to pretend that pre conference doesn't matter is a loser mentality and we already have enough of that going on. LA Quette isn't overhauled. Did you watch them last night? Yes they won but they aren't a good team. The havoc style will keep them in most games. They can't score and if they don't generate 15+ TOs they will lose on most nights.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2021 16:58:42 GMT -5
Excuse me if I'm not on the Marquette bandwagon just yet. Close wins against SIU-Edwardsville & UNH, and a 1-pt home nail-biter against a ranked team w/o their All-American center (+ some helpful whistles) doesn't make an open & shut case.
Would I rather have that start than ours? Obviously. But cooler heads -- say, KenPom predictions -- still have us ending the year with essentially the same record. That might be an overhaul, but is it "successful"?
We were picked to finish 9th & 10th this year. And despite the "fortunate" win vs Illinois (OMG! Imagine if they hadn't hit that late FT... they would've lost!), there's nothing much yet to suggest it'll end up differently. Last year we were picked last, and looked every bit the part for the first half of the year. Until we didn't anymore.
How about we wait for a few games before declaring Shaka Smart (he of the boatloads of 5 & high-4 star talent and 0 NCAA wins @ Texas) the next Larry Brown?
We've got 30 more chances to make something out of the season ourselves. That starts again tonight.
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Post by bostonfan on Nov 16, 2021 17:07:12 GMT -5
This is college basketball. You can overhaul a team in 1 year. Look at Marquette. That is not the best way to do it but it certainly isn't losing to Dartmouth and American and hoping you get to 7 wins with a couple of decent Big East wins in year 5. You have to be able to attract recruits and transfers. People don't want to play for a 7 win team. Most teams get that reset and the ability to sell new hope with a coaching change. They don't get that hope from a couple decent conference wins. Is this game must win? No because as you say this team is going nowhere but to pretend that pre conference doesn't matter is a loser mentality and we already have enough of that going on. LA Quette isn't overhauled. Did you watch them last night? Yes they won but they aren't a good team. The havoc style will keep them in most games. They can't score and if they don't generate 15+ TOs they will lose on most nights. I watched some of the Marquette/Illinois game last night and both teams were really bad for extended periods last night. Shaka has Marquette playing a similar style to St John's right now, which is his "havoc" style. Other than the Lewis and Morsell kids, Marquette might really struggle to create offense this year. They will be exciting to watch, but that may not translate into a lot of wins.
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Post by hoyainla on Nov 16, 2021 17:10:19 GMT -5
This is college basketball. You can overhaul a team in 1 year. Look at Marquette. That is not the best way to do it but it certainly isn't losing to Dartmouth and American and hoping you get to 7 wins with a couple of decent Big East wins in year 5. You have to be able to attract recruits and transfers. People don't want to play for a 7 win team. Most teams get that reset and the ability to sell new hope with a coaching change. They don't get that hope from a couple decent conference wins. Is this game must win? No because as you say this team is going nowhere but to pretend that pre conference doesn't matter is a loser mentality and we already have enough of that going on. LA Quette isn't overhauled. Did you watch them last night? Yes they won but they aren't a good team. The havoc style will keep them in most games. They can't score and if they don't generate 15+ TOs they will lose on most nights. I'd rather be them than us.
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