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Post by daveg023 on Jul 27, 2021 14:51:06 GMT -5
It’s probably an OOC schedule that will be ranked somewhere around 100-150 in the country, which is fine for this team as others stated. I think ideally when you have a tournament type team you want to have a 50-100 type schedule (I think our 2019-20 schedule was ideal), but this schedule is not going to kill your chances like the first two Ewing era schedules did.
Winning the SDSU game is not only huge for the win part, but the chance to get a shot at USC instead of St Joe’s.
If we assume 9-9 in the BE is the goal (though I think a slight reach for this group in what will be a tougher BE than last year), then the team can probably needs to go 10-2 on this slate and needs to win 3 of 5 against SDSU, St Joe’s/USC, Syracuse, TCU, and South Carolina. Not an impossible task, but also means no slip-ups elsewhere.
Can’t believe the first game is less just over 100 days away…
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Jul 27, 2021 14:54:37 GMT -5
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Jul 27, 2021 14:55:06 GMT -5
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Post by BSM on Jul 27, 2021 15:42:59 GMT -5
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jul 27, 2021 15:50:58 GMT -5
Siena lost its top 3 scorers and returns only 5 guys, totalling 30 points a game. They are often an interesting team, but not sure how "intriguing" it will be this year.
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Post by jpj on Jul 27, 2021 17:53:42 GMT -5
OOC Schedule Prediction 9-2 losses to SDSU or USC; and Syracuse win the rest
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Post by hoyaguy on Jul 27, 2021 18:11:36 GMT -5
OOC Schedule Prediction 9-2 losses to SDSU or USC; and Syracuse win the rest I am hoping for 10 but 9 seems likely and any less wins means trouble heading into BE play and likely no bid
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Post by centercourt400s on Jul 27, 2021 18:23:58 GMT -5
So the twist is that the six lower quality home games in Nov/Dec (American, Dartmouth, Howard, Longwood, Siena, and UMBC) are optional for season ticket holders. Here is how the email from the ticket office explains it:
Seems a laudable goal to "maximize seating close to the court and improve the home-court advantage for the Hoyas". I'll be interested to see if the offered seats will be any better than my paid-for seats. Assuming I attend all the games I plan to, I think the value at least remains the same and could actually be higher.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jul 27, 2021 18:48:17 GMT -5
So the twist is that the six lower quality home games in Nov/Dec (American, Dartmouth, Howard, Longwood, Siena, and UMBC) are optional for season ticket holders. Here is how the email from the ticket office explains it: Seems a laudable goal to "maximize seating close to the court and improve the home-court advantage for the Hoyas". I'll be interested to see if the offered seats will be any better than my paid-for seats. Assuming I attend all the games I plan to, I think the value at least remains the same and could actually be higher. This sounds like a sensible plan. I have no idea how it will work in practice, but it makes sense to try to ensure that seats are filled closer to the Court. The only downside to this, is that I think attendance for those six games could be even lower than they'd otherwise be, as even some season ticket holders will have incentive not to attend.
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Post by FLHoya on Jul 27, 2021 20:00:30 GMT -5
So the twist is that the six lower quality home games in Nov/Dec (American, Dartmouth, Howard, Longwood, Siena, and UMBC) are optional for season ticket holders. Here is how the email from the ticket office explains it: Seems a laudable goal to "maximize seating close to the court and improve the home-court advantage for the Hoyas". I'll be interested to see if the offered seats will be any better than my paid-for seats. Assuming I attend all the games I plan to, I think the value at least remains the same and could actually be higher. This sounds like a sensible plan. I have no idea how it will work in practice, but it makes sense to try to ensure that seats are filled closer to the Court. The only downside to this, is that I think attendance for those six games could be even lower than they'd otherwise be, as even some season ticket holders will have incentive not to attend. It's a fine enough idea to give the Ticket Office flexibility to make the 100 level look less desolate during cupcake games. But I don't think it's going to "maximize the value of season tickets to you". I checked b/c I was curious and the wording of the email raised a flag. Unless the ticket office adjust prices or edits things, the cost of my 2021-22 season tickets for 12 games + 6 optional games is going to be the same as my 2019-20 season tickets for 18 games. Soooooooo...it's the same "value" per game, IF you opt in to every cupcake, and if not it's less valuable. Little marketing misdirection never hurt anyone I guess.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 27, 2021 20:16:27 GMT -5
So the twist is that the six lower quality home games in Nov/Dec (American, Dartmouth, Howard, Longwood, Siena, and UMBC) are optional for season ticket holders. This is an added benefit to season ticket holders, especially those who are interested in Big East games but there's a downside risk as well. The NCAA allows schools to count attendance by one of two ways, but it must be consistent: tickets used (scanned, or "torn" in the old days) or tickets distributed. For teams that do well, the numbers tend to converge: Duke announces 9,314 a game and there are always close to 9,314 in the building. There are roughly 7,500 season ticket holders at Duke--far less than at UNC or NC State, but a competitive number to keep the building full. Approx. 1,600 seats are student season tickets. The balance (~200) are visitor seats. Thus, even if no one showed, Duke could claim ~9,314 because these are "tickets distributed". On the other side of the coin is DePaul. DePaul "might" have 2,000 season ticket holders and another 200 student ticket holders, but they are counted whether they show or not. Yet, as the DePaul student newspaper noted in 2019, "Wintrust saw an average of 1,274 fans scan their tickets for each game. Out of the Blue Demons’ nine home games over that time, five saw fewer than 1,000 spectators." Let's assume Georgetown's season ticket base is 4,000--no regular season attendance figure downtown has ever been below 4,000, coming as close as 4,011 vs. Liberty in Dec 2018. If GU does not sell the Dartmouth, Siena, etc. seats to season ticket holders, it cannot use that base as the low number for tickets sold. Barring significant walk-up sales for mid-week December games, these games have the potential to dip below 4,000. (There's also the realization that lower bowl season tickets have been loyalty purchased by alumni from the classes of 1964 to 1975 for years, with significantly less penetration by alumni of the 1980's going forward. The age range of these alumni is now 68 to 79 and can be excused if they don't want to drive from Falls Church to 7th St. to see Siena or UMBC.) The hedge is that if Georgetown can get more season ticket holders willing to pay for 12 games than those that are willing to pay for 18, it works-- the turnout may be low for Dartmouth but more for Butler and Marquette. However, if the number of people that would pay for 12 is largely the same as that which would pay for 18, there's going to be an issue. Here is the pricing map: wearegeorgetown.com/tickets/capital-one-arena-seating-maps/
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Post by FLHoya on Jul 27, 2021 20:32:02 GMT -5
The hedge is that if Georgetown can get more season ticket holders willing to pay for 12 games than those that are willing to pay for 18, it works-- the turnout may be low for Dartmouth but more for Butler and Marquette. However, if the number of people that would pay for 12 is largely the same as that which would pay for 18, there's going to be an issue. It's a marketing ploy for sure--those 12 games this coming season cost the same as the 18 games two seasons ago. Or I guess more accurately, your season tickets cost the same for the same number of games as two seasons ago, but you have to do a little extra work to get 1/3 of the tickets, and those tickets might be in a slightly better location if you'd like, but for, like, Longwood.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Jul 27, 2021 21:59:12 GMT -5
This is a random question to you all but I’m a GMU alum. Is there a good reason why Georgetown hasn’t scheduled George Mason at all since I started following the program in 2005?
I wished so hard that they would play once in my four years at Mason but it never happened
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 27, 2021 22:05:19 GMT -5
The hedge is that if Georgetown can get more season ticket holders willing to pay for 12 games than those that are willing to pay for 18, it works-- the turnout may be low for Dartmouth but more for Butler and Marquette. However, if the number of people that would pay for 12 is largely the same as that which would pay for 18, there's going to be an issue. It's a marketing ploy for sure--those 12 games this coming season cost the same as the 18 games two seasons ago. Or I guess more accurately, your season tickets cost the same for the same number of games as two seasons ago, but you have to do a little extra work to get 1/3 of the tickets, and those tickets might be in a slightly better location if you'd like, but for, like, Longwood. Plus you can get 4 additional tickets for free to those 6 games. Not a huge value, but if all of your tickets are together in a decent location, that’s better than getting a random free ticket behind the basket for a retweet.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 27, 2021 22:07:21 GMT -5
I think it is fine. Howard, American & UMBC are the types of teams we should play if we can get some local games. The one I don't like is Longwood. They are low RPI and not terribly close by. That is the only one that screams out as weak. Since we have a lot of freshman that will have to deliver this year, I feel overall it is a good mix. The TCU, Cuse, SDSU, and South Carolina games are all major conference teams that will be solid tests. We need to be 10-1 with this schedule heading into BE play. I wonder if Kirby is friends with the Longwood coach since he was previously an AAU coach in Houston for 16 years. On top of that, Longwood is only a 3+ hour drive away, so no hotel/flight costs to cover.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Jul 27, 2021 22:54:38 GMT -5
This is a random question to you all but I’m a GMU alum. Is there a good reason why Georgetown hasn’t scheduled George Mason at all since I started following the program in 2005? I wished so hard that they would play once in my four years at Mason but it never happened Same reason we haven't scheduled GW over that same period?
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Post by hoyaguy on Jul 27, 2021 23:27:29 GMT -5
This is a random question to you all but I’m a GMU alum. Is there a good reason why Georgetown hasn’t scheduled George Mason at all since I started following the program in 2005? I wished so hard that they would play once in my four years at Mason but it never happened Same reason we haven't scheduled GW over that same period? Makes too much sense
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Post by blueandgray on Jul 28, 2021 1:43:17 GMT -5
My guess is that it comes down to risk/reward. Georgetown has too much to lose we’re they to lose to George Mason and not enough upside were they to win. Mason is the type of program that can give the Hoyas problems and if they were to lose to such a team, they better not be local.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 1:52:55 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Jul 28, 2021 7:18:50 GMT -5
Renewed my season tickets last night. 46th year of Hoya basketball. HOYA SAXA!!
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