Man, the more I hear about the 80s, the more I understand DFW's hatred of transfers. It seems like more than anything else, transfers and academic casualties started the decline.
It wasn't just the transfers and academic casualties. It was also JT2's "cruise control" coaching approach after the olympics and 89 season as well. JT2 wasn't the same coach after the Olympics compared to the coach JT2 from 78-87.
I'm sorry, but yall are forgetting about one of the best ever. I hate to say it, but....when Julius Page rose up and smashed it on Ruben (I was there), my jaw was left hanging. I forget which player (non-Hoya or Pitt-player), but when he was asked, he mentioned the Julius Page dunk over Ruben. Its one of those dunks that your surprised how many people have actually seen.
Does anyone remember Iverson's backwards dunk off an alley-oop pass from Nichols that he caught against St. John's?
Also the baseline reverse rim-bender he had against Arizona in the Preseason NIT...
Pretty F-R-E-S-H...both of them...
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You drop a pass, you run a mile. You miss a blocking assignment, you run a mile. You fumble the football, and I will break my foot off in your John Brown hindparts...and then you will run a mile.
Post by hoyalove4ever on Jul 20, 2005 14:48:11 GMT -5
'94 exhibition game against Latvian Select, at McDonough: Iverson caught a two-handed alley-oop off of an out-of-bounds play. This was the first time I had seen him play. Nasty, nasty, nasty-- a 5'11" guy jumping over an entire team full of 6'10" dudes!
Post by hoyalove4ever on Jul 20, 2005 14:50:22 GMT -5
Also who could forget Ruben's reverse-oop in the last regular season game of '01, against ND @ South Bend. The best part was watching him run down the court screaming after the play. That is one of my favorite moments in Hoya history.
Does anyone remember Iverson's backwards dunk off an alley-oop pass from Nichols that he caught against St. John's?
Yeah, that was pretty good. Billy Packer jokingly said "Yeap, just a typical play run for a 6-foot point-guard".
The better dunk (well, missed dunk) during that game, was when Victor Page threw the alley-up to Iverson and Iverson only missed because Mo Brown for St. Johns fouled him hard. Iverson got in Brown's face and said something to him. Heated words were exchanged, Page came over too to stick up for Iverson. Nothing happened though.
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There was one non-conference game that season where Iverson caught a ball coming off the rim with one hand and flushed it...
His head was so high...he had to be looking down into the rim...
And the Texas Tech game when he rebounded Boubacar's missed lay-up and gave the Red Raiders some Two-Fisted Fury with a put-back dunk...
We will be perfect...in every aspect of the game.
You drop a pass, you run a mile. You miss a blocking assignment, you run a mile. You fumble the football, and I will break my foot off in your John Brown hindparts...and then you will run a mile.
Post by theEDGEfactor on Jul 20, 2005 15:06:25 GMT -5
Amare Stoudemire over Michael Olowokandi in his rookie year. Got the feed from Marbury while driving to the basket and did 2 feet and jumped right on Kandi got the and1. One of the greatest dunks I have ever seen.
Post by HoyaRejuveNation85 on Jul 20, 2005 15:06:37 GMT -5
Great thread.
Ewing had several great dunks. The dunk over Sampson in Capital Centre game in 1982 was a classic, but I loved the one over Kentucky's Jim Master in the 1984 NCAA semifinal. It practically invented the verb "posterized."
I too love the Starks dunk on MJ. Too bad it came in a losing effort -- the disappointing end to too many of those classic Knicks/Bulls battles.
Ewing had several great dunks. The dunk over Sampson in Capital Centre game in 1982 was a classic, but I loved the one over Kentucky's Jim Master in the 1984 NCAA semifinal. It practically invented the verb "posterized."
If it is the one I'm thinking about, it actually wasn't a Dunk. They called traveling on Ewing. But it was awesome. In fact, the networks still show that Dunk all the time in highlights even though Ewing was called for traveling.
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Yeah the traveling dunk is shown all the time by the networks. He gets so freakin' high. But in the background you can see the baseline ref jump off the baseline and up the court with his hand up, about to call the travel.
It would only be a few more years before Ewing was allowed to get away with that 13-step jump stop...
You guys got it all wrong. The best dunk ever is easily the Vince Carter dunk over Frederic Weiss (7'2")....Absolutely, unequivocally, the BEST IN GAME DUNK EVER
(Just for fun, check out the look on KG's face)
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Jul 20, 2005 16:25:16 GMT -5
hoyanj5 said:
I'm sorry, but yall are forgetting about one of the best ever. I hate to say it, but....when Julius Page rose up and smashed it on Ruben (I was there), my jaw was left hanging. I forget which player (non-Hoya or Pitt-player), but when he was asked, he mentioned the Julius Page dunk over Ruben. Its one of those dunks that your surprised how many people have actually seen.
Yeah, I was going to mention that one, too. Best dunk I've ever seen live for sure. It also changed the flow of the game -- you could tell from that point on we'd lose our first home BE matchup of the year. In my mind, the apex of the Esh era came one second before the Page dunk. We fell back to earth in conference play that year and never played with the same swagger again.
Gotta love this thread and all the Iverson memories.
I think it was during the '94 NBA western confrence playoffs...Lil' Kevin Johnson of the Suns went baseline and threw one down right on Hakeem's face. Awesome in every sense. He came down the left baseline, glided around Olajuwon, backboard--side, and slammed it in with one hand on the other side. Only thing The Dream could do was watch the ball get slammed down his throat. It was ferocious and totally unexpected.
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I first thought that Dwyane Wade would be a good pro with that one dunk versus Kentucky in their Final Four year.
Best part of that Duke game was Gerald Riley telling Duhon (?) to get up, you p****!
Actually, it was Daniel Ewing - I was sitting (well, standing) just 20 feet away.
As for dunks, 2 that haven't been mentioned: 1. Ruben vs. Syracuse in the 1st round BET in 2000. His turnaround one-hander from under the basket was just sick and got the crowd believing that we could knock off the #1 seed. Which we did.
2. Ricky Paulding going baseline in the Elite 8 in 2002 against Oklahoma. The entire building was buzzing for the next 5 minutes, like everyone in the place was saying "Holy Crap" over and over. The TV cut to a close-up of Kareem Rush on the bench and he looked absolutely baffled at what he had just seen. I saved it on Tivo for a year.
How come I can't get any love for the T-Mac over Bradley dunk
My favorite is from this year Game 2 of the Western Conference First Round between the Rockets and Mavs. McGrady goes baseline and flushes it all over Bradley leaving his nuts resting in his face. If any of you facebook people want to see a picture of this look for the NBA Live group. It is a terrific picture.
Post by reformation on Jul 20, 2005 22:07:19 GMT -5
The Starks Dunk over Pippen + Jordan and the Kevin Johnson dunk over Hakeem should be rated above the others because these dunks actually were at crucial moments in playoff games. The Starks dunk won the playoff game for the Knicks(even though they eventually lost the series. KJ's dunk over Hakeem shocked everyone, I didn't even think he could dunk before he pulled off a momentum changing dunk in a tight playoff game. Most of the other dunks mentioned had no real game impact.
The Ewing/Jim master dunk was probably my favorite of other dunks, though unfortunately for Patrick he was more often a victim of major dunks than a perpetrator as his career went on in the NBA-i remember pippen having an especially nasty one on Ewing.
No doubt about AI's dunk over Arizona's Blair at MSG. I only saw it once because I was at the game and I have never seen anything like it since. He went baseline and tried to flush is straight on. Blair came over to help out and Iverson ducked his head under the rim and dunked it on the other side. Absolutely amazing.
AI also had a one hand put back off a missed 3 against Rutgers in 1996. He jumped from a few feet inside the foul line and dunked the rebound.
Can't forget the Ewing steal against St. John's in the BE tourney where he flipped it back to Jackson for the alley oop. I loved Raf's commentary at the time, "Just throw it up there and let Patrick go get it!!" -- Not necessarily in traffic but fantastic altogther.
Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Jul 21, 2005 8:12:34 GMT -5
Starks dunk was nasty and I hate the knicks. The best one I have ever seen was a guy named Mark Lenoire from Broad Ripple high school in Indy. He was close to the free throw line and he almost brought down the house against a really bad Park Tudor team. That Broad Ripple squad went on to the regionals and lost to a Warren Central team that featured a guy named Jeff George. He actually was a pretty good high school hooper. I know this is for Indy people only but had to mention it.