hoyaguy
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Post by hoyaguy on Jul 13, 2021 19:10:58 GMT -5
Isn't Crouch considered to be Gtown's DMV insider? Crouch certainly has a lot of DMV connections via the Skills Society and being from DC. While he may focus plenty of time on recruiting, his title is Special Assistant to the Head Coach. Brooks is the Director of Recruiting for X. Beyond the 3 assistants who can recruit off campus, programs have a variety of staff sizes and position titles. Given the size of GU’s basketball budget, employing a Director of Recruiting would seem like a prudent move. IMO, the main issue with the staff continues to be Waheed, who went to Gonzaga and hasn’t done much (that is publicly known) in terms of recruiting going back to his time on JT3’s staff. And the DOBO should be a young up and comer who can seamlessly transition to an assistant position when an assistant moves on, like Smith at Duke and Nardi at Nova. There also needs to be a market for your assistant coaches for that to happen. It was certainly interesting that Waheed was kept when the change was made but at this point if the rumors and noise that he doesn’t do much with recruits are true then a change may be needed like this is as high as we have been in a long time and if we can’t do well in the region then there certainly is a problem
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Post by trotters10 on Jul 14, 2021 13:54:45 GMT -5
I won't be too upset over Ward if we get Whitmore, or Watson. Or maybe even Jaylen Martin. Whitmore and Watson may even be capable of playing a small-ball 4. They look pretty developed for their age. In that sense, they might even fit better than Ward.
Something was very fishy about the Tyrell Ward recruitment. It was mentioned he canceled his official visit in early June. No one knows why, and we'll likely never know. But this was around the time LSU came around, and then Xavier. Very...interesting...
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Post by hoyas315 on Mar 20, 2022 11:03:42 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2022 11:32:51 GMT -5
To right the un-rightable wrong To love pure and chaste from afar To try when your arms are too weary To reach the unreachable star
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Post by BeantownHoya on Mar 20, 2022 11:37:26 GMT -5
Ewing should run (not walk) to this kids from door. I have hard time believing he will go back to Xavier at this point and LSU just got rid of Wade...not blaming Ewing if the kid doesn't come here (he may already have his mind made up about Gtown)...but we should put on a full court press for this kid...would make a great 2022 class
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Mar 20, 2022 12:53:56 GMT -5
Have to think Virginia Tech is the likely destination here with Mike Jones there.
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Post by hoya73 on Mar 20, 2022 15:34:08 GMT -5
Have to think Virginia Tech is the likely destination here with Mike Jones there. Which is why it would be a slick move to hire Jones away from them, promise him head coach in 2023/24. Maybe, if the kid from Wilson hasn't signed an LOI at Tech, we could poach him, too. That would, I realize, require 2 transfers or other departures from this year's squad.
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Post by hoyazeke on Mar 20, 2022 16:38:37 GMT -5
The only thing is Ward seemed to go from a GTown lock to very anti-GTown. I don't think watching us this past year would soften whatever happened between the 2 sides.
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Post by hoyaguy on Mar 20, 2022 17:17:13 GMT -5
Was he the one who posted a bit of a fit about us and Maryland not recruiting him hard enough for being so close?
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Post by hibernatinghoyafan on Mar 20, 2022 17:34:21 GMT -5
Was he the one who posted a bit of a fit about us and Maryland not recruiting him hard enough for being so close? No that was Rodney Rice
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Post by hoyazeke on Mar 20, 2022 17:55:39 GMT -5
Was he the one who posted a bit of a fit about us and Maryland not recruiting him hard enough for being so close? I believe it more to do with the coach that joined VaTech. I just remember very quickly going from dream school to not on final list.
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Post by hoyas315 on Mar 20, 2022 18:01:05 GMT -5
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Post by trotters10 on Mar 31, 2022 11:04:05 GMT -5
Hopefully this rumour out there that the opening for the second assistant job is going to someone who is still involved in the NCAA tournament (hence the delay). This could mean the NIT as well, and maybe it's Jordan Brooks? If somehow this rumour is true, then that would be huge for our Tyrell Ward chances...
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Post by wponds on Mar 31, 2022 12:06:45 GMT -5
Hopefully this rumour out there that the opening for the second assistant job is going to someone who is still involved in the NCAA tournament (hence the delay). This could mean the NIT as well, and maybe it's Jordan Brooks? If somehow this rumour is true, then that would be huge for our Tyrell Ward chances... Not sure how legit that is, but if that were the case, Brooks is the only guy out there that makes sense. No established assistant of a final 4 team would make a lateral move to Georgetown at this point in time. Don't think any of their DOBO-type people have any ties to us/DMV either. Brooks at least would be leaving an NIT team that fired their coach. And he'd, theoretically, get a promotion out of it.
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Post by trotters10 on Mar 31, 2022 12:10:24 GMT -5
Hopefully this rumour out there that the opening for the second assistant job is going to someone who is still involved in the NCAA tournament (hence the delay). This could mean the NIT as well, and maybe it's Jordan Brooks? If somehow this rumour is true, then that would be huge for our Tyrell Ward chances... Not sure how legit that is, but if that were the case, Brooks is the only guy out there that makes sense. No established assistant of a final 4 team would make a lateral move to Georgetown at this point in time. Don't think any of their DOBO-type people have any ties to us/DMV either. Brooks at least would be leaving an NIT team that fired their coach. And he'd, theoretically, get a promotion out of it. It's a pretty loose rumour to be honest, but it is circling out there. I didn't realize Brooks was an assistant under Kevin Nickelberry when he was coach @ Howard. Interesting dynamic there, and adds a bit of merit to the rumour. If Georgetown is serious about hitting the DMV hard, having Nickelberry and Brooks would surely show they're not kidding around. (FINALLY!).
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Post by wponds on Mar 31, 2022 12:15:10 GMT -5
Not sure how legit that is, but if that were the case, Brooks is the only guy out there that makes sense. No established assistant of a final 4 team would make a lateral move to Georgetown at this point in time. Don't think any of their DOBO-type people have any ties to us/DMV either. Brooks at least would be leaving an NIT team that fired their coach. And he'd, theoretically, get a promotion out of it. It's a pretty loose rumour to be honest, but it is circling out there. I didn't realize Brooks was an assistant under Kevin Nickelberry when he was coach @ Howard. Interesting dynamic there, and adds a bit of merit to the rumour. If Georgetown is serious about hitting the DMV hard, having Nickelberry and Brooks would surely show they're not kidding around. (FINALLY!). Yeah, i'd love for it to be true. An older guy like Nickelberry has a lot of connects, but Brooks could probably help tag team, assuming he can better relate to the kids being closer to their age. Would explain some of the feet-dragging on georgetown's end too
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Post by RBHoya on Mar 31, 2022 12:32:59 GMT -5
Brooks has always been the most logical choice to be added as an assistant, IMHO. He's a young guy who recruits the area well and for whom it'd be a promotion. Remember when JTIII hired David Cox who was the DoBO at Pitt but whose star was on the rise? It's the same principle here. With X firing their head coach it seems even more likely.
The only other reason I can think of for the delay would be if there are other dominoes that need to fall. For example, perhaps they think they might have a shot at Mike Pegues? But Pegues is also still a candidate for the GW head coaching job. Maybe if he doesn't get GW he'd come here, but if he does then we'll have to go to our plan B (someone like Kenny Johnson or Straughn, maybe).
Anyway back on topic. Not only is Ward close with Brooks, I believe he is also close with Clinton Crouch. And I think that Crouch and Orr may swap roles, with Crouch becoming a full time assistant and recruiting on the road while Orr comes off the road and serves as a consigliere for Patrick. You would think that playing for his former high school coach at VA Tech would be enticing, and if he really liked Xavier he might consider playing for Miller even without Brooks. But if we had an assistant coaching staff of Nickelberry, Brooks and Crouch, I could see us being an interesting option for Ward even coming off such a rough season.
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Post by dchewing1 on Mar 31, 2022 12:50:14 GMT -5
Brooks seems like the obvious choice given that he played under Nickelberry at Hampton for 3 years.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Mar 31, 2022 13:10:09 GMT -5
Brooks has always been the most logical choice to be added as an assistant, IMHO. He's a young guy who recruits the area well and for whom it'd be a promotion. Remember when JTIII hired David Cox who was the DoBO at Pitt but whose star was on the rise? It's the same principle here. With X firing their head coach it seems even more likely. The only other reason I can think of for the delay would be if there are other dominoes that need to fall. For example, perhaps they think they might have a shot at Mike Pegues? But Pegues is also still a candidate for the GW head coaching job. Maybe if he doesn't get GW he'd come here, but if he does then we'll have to go to our plan B (someone like Kenny Johnson or Straughn, maybe). Anyway back on topic. Not only is Ward close with Brooks, I believe he is also close with Clinton Crouch. And I think that Crouch and Orr may swap roles, with Crouch becoming a full time assistant and recruiting on the road while Orr comes off the road and serves as a consigliere for Patrick. You would think that playing for his former high school coach at VA Tech would be enticing, and if he really liked Xavier he might consider playing for Miller even without Brooks. But if we had an assistant coaching staff of Nickelberry, Brooks and Crouch, I could see us being an interesting option for Ward even coming off such a rough season. Rb - just curious because I feel I have seen a few people post a similar thought. What signs/news/gossip gives you the impression about Orr stepping down from his current role? I do think it would be the right move and hope it happens but are you speculating or have more concrete evidence that could in fact happen? To be clear not questioning you at all...I know it's hard to read someone's intent on these board, it's a sincere question...
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