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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 10, 2021 13:00:27 GMT -5
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Post by blueandgray on Jan 10, 2021 23:20:21 GMT -5
...we may not win another one all year.
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Post by daveg023 on Jan 11, 2021 6:06:09 GMT -5
The extremes of board reactions from this game will be at an all time high. I fear how ugly it may get on here if we lose. For the sake of many members sanity, let’s scrap together a win.
That being said, DePaul is a talented team, I would say this is a 50/50 game where I’m sure the line won’t be more than a couple of points at most.
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 11, 2021 6:19:01 GMT -5
...we may not win another one all year. Which means we will finish with the same number of wins as the year before JT2's hire.^_^
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Post by calhoya on Jan 11, 2021 8:12:29 GMT -5
Have watched Depaul twice and they look to be improved even with the loss of their stud from last year. Before the college football championship tonight watch Depaul against a solid UConn team, minus its star. Harris is going to have a tough time guarding Moore, but at least size will not be a factor as both are small guards. Depaul shoots and defends the 3 well. Pickett on Weems. They are winless in conference but have played tougher opponents than the Hoyas, and looked better against Seton Hall than the Hoyas. Statistically Depaul is better than the Hoyas so far in every category other than rebounds and FT shooting. Means little this early in the season but still think that this Depaul team is improved over recent editions. Unless Ewing has figured out how to reduce TOs, make his players run the offense for an entire game and defend the 3, I expect a comfortable win for Depaul and further agony here for fans.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Jan 11, 2021 10:27:52 GMT -5
The extremes of board reactions from this game will be at an all time high. I fear how ugly it may get on here if we lose. For the sake of many members sanity, let’s scrap together a win. That being said, DePaul is a talented team, I would say this is a 50/50 game where I’m sure the line won’t be more than a couple of points at most. Bart Torvik currently has us as a +0.2 underdog. At home. To Depaul. That is terrifying. That being said, if we are able to (cue broken record) limit our TOs and identify perimeter shooters and stick to them, we have more than a decent chance to win. Looking for a bounce back game from Q who has to be more assertive on the glass than he was against Cuse. Hoping that semi-out-of-control Bile replaces always-out-of-control Bile for two games in a row. And again, if we want a fresher and more effective Blair/Pickett down the stretch to close out a game, Ewing needs to find them rest by using the bench earlier. Finding 30 minutes combined for Berger, Clark and Sibley should be the norm, not the exception.
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 11, 2021 13:30:09 GMT -5
The extremes of board reactions from this game will be at an all time high. I fear how ugly it may get on here if we lose. For the sake of many members sanity, let’s scrap together a win. That being said, DePaul is a talented team, I would say this is a 50/50 game where I’m sure the line won’t be more than a couple of points at most. Not concerned. We're playing and developing the freshman and they are going to make mistakes or shoot airballs so winning is secondary.
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Post by daveg023 on Jan 11, 2021 14:23:33 GMT -5
The extremes of board reactions from this game will be at an all time high. I fear how ugly it may get on here if we lose. For the sake of many members sanity, let’s scrap together a win. That being said, DePaul is a talented team, I would say this is a 50/50 game where I’m sure the line won’t be more than a couple of points at most. Not concerned. We're playing and developing the freshman and they are going to make mistakes or shoot airballs so winning is secondary. Big picture the W-L record this year is meaningless. No difference if we go 5-20 or 7-18. I’d rather us develop players who’ll be here next year as much as we can. That being said, there is still a pride element and something to continuing a culture of losing. It would be nice for the idea of winning and developing to not be mutually exclusive.
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Post by mdtd on Jan 11, 2021 17:43:45 GMT -5
This DePaul team has talent. I don't know how well it's been used, but they have talent. Moore, Weems, and Freeman-Liberty are all talented players. However, as we all know, DePaul is not a well-coached team. This game is very winnable, but I'm not sure what to expect at this point.
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Post by prhoya on Jan 11, 2021 19:43:46 GMT -5
However, as we all know, DePaul is not a well-coached team. I know we have B&G bias glasses, but if we take them off and look at the record, Ewing and Leitao are tied at 3 wins each in 6 games. It looks like the coaching level at GU and DePaul is about the same.
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Post by EasyEd on Jan 11, 2021 20:42:41 GMT -5
Gonna be a battle to see which team can out-turnover the other.
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 11, 2021 20:51:56 GMT -5
However, as we all know, DePaul is not a well-coached team. I know we have B&G bias glasses, but if we take them off and look at the record, Ewing and Leitao are tied at 3 wins each in 6 games. It looks like the coaching level at GU and DePaul is about the same. That’s a generous comparison for Ewing. Leitao has accomplished far more as a coach than Pat.
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Post by s4hoyas on Jan 11, 2021 23:42:35 GMT -5
Really?...what "far more" has he accomplished...?
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 12, 2021 0:15:03 GMT -5
Really?...what "far more" has he accomplished...? Made an NCAA Tournament, for one thing. Pretty low bar, admittedly, but Ewing’s about to be 0-4.
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Post by kghoya on Jan 12, 2021 0:39:58 GMT -5
Really?...what "far more" has he accomplished...? Made an NCAA Tournament, for one thing. Pretty low bar, admittedly, but Ewing’s about to be 0-4. Two tournaments and he's won a game in each appearance.
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Post by prhoya on Jan 12, 2021 1:10:53 GMT -5
Made an NCAA Tournament, for one thing. Pretty low bar, admittedly, but Ewing’s about to be 0-4. Two tournaments and he's won a game in each appearance. At a discount: Dave Leitao: $1,365,974 nonprofitlight.com/il/chicago/depaul-university 2017/18 ACADEMIC YEAR Patick Ewing: $4,000,000* *Article from 2017: www.ibtimes.com/patrick-ewing-georgetown-salary-how-much-will-new-hoops-coach-be-paid-lead-hoyas-2520002“ While no official salary figures were immediately announced, rumor was that Georgetown was offering compensation in the neighborhood of $4 million annually, according to Sports Illustrated. If true, that would immediately launch Ewing, who has never been a head coach on any level, among the game's top paid coaches. JT3 was paid about $3.6 million a year, and that was after he had success as Princeton University's head coach for four seasons. Ewing returns to Georgetown without any head coaching experience, but the school's athletic officials were likely hoping his ties to the professional game would rejuvenate the program's recruiting efforts to lure top high school talent to the campus, as Thompson did for many years.” Surely GU and Ewing can pay premium for a defensive strategist and a local recruiting assistant.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jan 12, 2021 4:54:57 GMT -5
Two tournaments and he's won a game in each appearance. At a discount: Dave Leitao: $1,365,974 nonprofitlight.com/il/chicago/depaul-university 2017/18 ACADEMIC YEAR Patick Ewing: $4,000,000* *Article from 2017: www.ibtimes.com/patrick-ewing-georgetown-salary-how-much-will-new-hoops-coach-be-paid-lead-hoyas-2520002“ While no official salary figures were immediately announced, rumor was that Georgetown was offering compensation in the neighborhood of $4 million annually, according to Sports Illustrated. If true, that would immediately launch Ewing, who has never been a head coach on any level, among the game's top paid coaches. JT3 was paid about $3.6 million a year, and that was after he had success as Princeton University's head coach for four seasons. Ewing returns to Georgetown without any head coaching experience, but the school's athletic officials were likely hoping his ties to the professional game would rejuvenate the program's recruiting efforts to lure top high school talent to the campus, as Thompson did for many years.” Surely GU and Ewing can pay premium for a defensive strategist and a local recruiting assistant. I hope you realize that you quoted an article that cited the $4M figure from a Pete Thamel (Syracuse grad) hit piece that likely got the $4M figure from the Jeff Goodman tweet trying to get Chris Mack a raise. Based on the 2018 Form 990 filed by Georgetown, Ewing received about $2.36M in compensation. projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/530196603
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Post by prhoya on Jan 12, 2021 7:10:27 GMT -5
I hope you realize that you quoted an article that cited the $4M figure from a Pete Thamel (Syracuse grad) hit piece that likely got the $4M figure from the Jeff Goodman tweet trying to get Chris Mack a raise. Based on the 2018 Form 990 filed by Georgetown, Ewing received about $2.36M in compensation. projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/530196603I hope you’re right and that’s the total compensation package. I was trying to find more links, but that was about it.
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Post by rhw485 on Jan 12, 2021 7:16:23 GMT -5
I caught a decent amount of the DePaul / UConn game. Whew are we in for a treat tomorrow.
I think DePaul only attempted one shot in the last 4.5 minutes and turned the ball over 6 or 7 times (lost count). Meanwhile we've been unable to force any turnovers on defense.
They then gave up a layup off an out of bounds play under the hoop, while we generally struggle to even get the ball inbounds because we insist on putting on shortest guy on baseline while teams have played zone and put a larger defender on him.
And lets throw in some special timeout management from Leitao. At the end of the first half, there was a review on whether DePaul had fouled UConn before the halftime horn sounded. Review took at least 5 minutes. At no point did DePaul draw up a play I guess because they ruled that there were .3 seconds left on clock and after UConn made both free throws Leitao burned a timeout to draw a play.
Some real unstoppable force vs. immovable object type stuff. All jokes aside, they have some pieces, it can't be easy given how much time they missed (a team that can certainly use that as an excuse) and I think it will be close and come down to late game execution.
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Post by bostonfan on Jan 12, 2021 8:18:09 GMT -5
I have seen some pars of the games DePaul has played this year and while the results remain the same, this years team is more athletic and seems to play harder than past years. They still make a lot of mental errors and turn the ball over just as much as the Hoyas, but they have some interesting players. The transfer Freeman Liberty is a guy who can really score the ball once he gets going. He seems to always want to attack the rim and is a very good finisher. It does seem like he wants to always go right, so hopefully the scouting report tells the defense to force him left. Charlie Moore is a good veteran point guard who is crafty and can score. Weems looks the part and makes some impressive looking plays, but usually throws in some really bad decisions.
Should be an interesting game between two struggling teams
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