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Post by professorhoya on Dec 15, 2020 22:10:31 GMT -5
I want a similar arena on our campus. I know the neighbors will scream and shout, but that arena looks like the perfect model to replace the inside of McD. I haven't looked for the actual dimensions, but it looks like the same size as McD. Tear down some walls and dig down ten feet, but keep the perimeter walls/façade. Yes, the neighbors will complain, but we can come up with a plan. What are the main complaints of the neighbors? In summary, traffic, noise and parking in their neighborhood. It should be noted that last year, for example, we only played 18 home games (9 OOC and 9 conference games) from November to the first week in March, with a small break for Christmas. Is that really such a horrible number of games? It's not like it's year-round. I know that arenas can be used for other events, but any negotiations with neighbors would include a certain limit of activities, i.e. graduations yes, big concerts no. Any discussion with neighbors should emphasize: 1. the small number of games in a short, four-month period, with the rest of the year free of any basketball/sports activities that draw visitors there; 2. the last time an on-campus arena was discussed with the neighbors, Uber/Lyft/etc did not exist and how it could help; 3. by its nature, it would have fewer seats available, so less outside traffic; 4. set up a bus plan from Key Bridge that would take visitors from Key Bridge to McD through the M Street entrance; and 5. if the team improves to its former glory, students would buy a large chunk of seats. Just throwing ideas out there... The French Embassy is always having drunken events and the neighbors don't complain.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Dec 15, 2020 22:58:03 GMT -5
What are the main complaints of the neighbors? In summary, traffic, noise and parking in their neighborhood. It should be noted that last year, for example, we only played 18 home games (9 OOC and 9 conference games) from November to the first week in March, with a small break for Christmas. Is that really such a horrible number of games? It's not like it's year-round. I know that arenas can be used for other events, but any negotiations with neighbors would include a certain limit of activities, i.e. graduations yes, big concerts no. Any discussion with neighbors should emphasize: 1. the small number of games in a short, four-month period, with the rest of the year free of any basketball/sports activities that draw visitors there; 2. the last time an on-campus arena was discussed with the neighbors, Uber/Lyft/etc did not exist and how it could help; 3. by its nature, it would have fewer seats available, so less outside traffic; 4. set up a bus plan from Key Bridge that would take visitors from Key Bridge to McD through the M Street entrance; and 5. if the team improves to its former glory, students would buy a large chunk of seats. Just throwing ideas out there... The problem is not the neighborhood. The neighborhood doesn't put a cap on Reunion or Homecoming or Commencement, each of which draws large crowds. The problem is not the BZA or the Old Georgetown Board--an internal renovation within the walls of a structure doesn't rise to the level of an architectural review. The problem isn't parking. The problem isn't transit, regardless if a new Metro line or a gondola ever makes it to K Street. The problem is Georgetown University didn't (and won't) make it a priority. Like planes on the taxiway waiting for the move to the active runway, Georgetown has positioned $500-600 million worth of projects in its 2037 campus plan including, but in no particular order, the awkwardly named "Harbin Tower", a new academic building adjacent to Regents Hall, the renovation or tear-down of Reiss, a Yates replacement and subsequent demo/rebuild of Shaw Field, an expansion of Lauinger, the downtown dorm, the refurb of 500 1st St. for the School of Public Policy, and, should it jump ahead in the line, 1) the interest among SFS leadership for a new or substantially changed ICC and 2) a redo/teardown of St. Mary's to accommodate GSN/GSH. (Russky can fact check these if I missed something.) Basketball isn't on the runway, it's not even in the hangar. Cooper Field limped to the finish 15 years late and is a shell of what was promised to donors. Track is still shut out, the planned softball field isn't coming back, and if there was no 2007 Final Four the Thompson Center might never have made it to the light of day. Georgetown is content to let McDonough age into antiquity (it will be 86 when the campus plan expires, or slightly younger than Copley is today) and will pay NBA-sized rents to Monumental Sports regardless of attendance. If the basketball fan and alumni base pressed the issue and came up with the money, maybe it gets a closer look someday, but no coach ever made it a priority, not even John Thompson. Up in Philadelphia, Jay Wright (and Bill Finneran) got Villanova to move off 30 years of inactivity over the deteriorating DuPont Pavilion, but I don't see Patrick Ewing ever going to Jack DeGioia and demanding this gets done or else.
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Post by prhoya on Dec 15, 2020 23:12:25 GMT -5
What are the main complaints of the neighbors? In summary, traffic, noise and parking in their neighborhood. It should be noted that last year, for example, we only played 18 home games (9 OOC and 9 conference games) from November to the first week in March, with a small break for Christmas. Is that really such a horrible number of games? It's not like it's year-round. I know that arenas can be used for other events, but any negotiations with neighbors would include a certain limit of activities, i.e. graduations yes, big concerts no. Any discussion with neighbors should emphasize: 1. the small number of games in a short, four-month period, with the rest of the year free of any basketball/sports activities that draw visitors there; 2. the last time an on-campus arena was discussed with the neighbors, Uber/Lyft/etc did not exist and how it could help; 3. by its nature, it would have fewer seats available, so less outside traffic; 4. set up a bus plan from Key Bridge that would take visitors from Key Bridge to McD through the M Street entrance; and 5. if the team improves to its former glory, students would buy a large chunk of seats. Just throwing ideas out there... The problem is not the neighborhood. The neighborhood doesn't put a cap on Reunion or Homecoming or Commencement, each of which draws large crowds. The problem is not the BZA or the Old Georgetown Board--an internal renovation within the walls of a structure doesn't rise to the level of an architectural review. The problem isn't parking. The problem isn't transit, regardless if a new Metro line or a gondola ever makes it to K Street. The problem is Georgetown University didn't (and won't) make it a priority. Like planes on the taxiway waiting for the move to the active runway, Georgetown has positioned $500-600 million worth of projects in its 2037 campus plan including, but in no particular order, the awkwardly named "Harbin Tower", a new academic building adjacent to Regents Hall, the renovation or tear-down of Reiss, a Yates replacement and subsequent demo/rebuild of Shaw Field, an expansion of Lauinger, the downtown dorm, the refurb of 500 1st St. for the School of Public Policy, and, should it jump ahead in the line, 1) the interest among SFS leadership for a new or substantially changed ICC and 2) a redo/teardown of St. Mary's to accommodate GSN/GSH. (Russky can fact check these if I missed something.) Basketball isn't on the runway, it's not even in the hangar. Cooper Field limped to the finish 15 years late and is a shell of what was promised to donors. Track is still shut out, the planned softball field isn't coming back, and if there was no 2007 Final Four the Thompson Center might never have made it to the light of day. Georgetown is content to let McDonough age into antiquity (it will be 86 when the campus plan expires, or slightly younger than Copley is today) and will pay NBA-sized rents to Monumental Sports regardless of attendance. If the basketball fan and alumni base pressed the issue and came up with the money, maybe it gets a closer look someday, but no coach ever made it a priority, not even John Thompson. Up in Philadelphia, Jay Wright (and Bill Finneran) got Villanova to move off 30 years of inactivity over the deteriorating DuPont Pavilion, but I don't see Patrick Ewing ever going to Jack DeGioia and demanding this gets done or else. So you're saying it can be done...
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Dec 15, 2020 23:53:18 GMT -5
Could you imagine if we had lost...the board would have unraveled over the course of a week. 🙃 Is there anything left to unravel. We’ve reached the core of the golf ball here - long ago. You underestimate the meltdownability of this board😉
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Post by RockawayHoya on Dec 18, 2020 10:59:35 GMT -5
With Jalen out now, obviously Dante's responsibility grows again. But Carey (6 TOs in the first game) and Blair (potentially brutal almost-TO at the end of regulation) need to help Dante out against pressure. Imperative those three guys can keep the turnovers down, especially in live-ball TO situations.
It's also an opportunity for Berger to continue building off the minutes he's earned over the past few games. Hopeful he can continue to step up and give us some solid minutes.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 11:11:39 GMT -5
With Jalen out now, obviously Dante's responsibility grows again. But Carey (6 TOs in the first game) and Blair (potentially brutal almost-TO at the end of regulation) need to help Dante out against pressure. Imperative those three guys can keep the turnovers down, especially in live-ball TO situations. It's also an opportunity for Berger to continue building off the minutes he's earned over the past few games. Hopeful he can continue to step up and give us some solid minutes. Yeah - I was just thinking about this. If Jalen's absence might be a remainder-of-year one (no idea), I wonder if Pat grooms a 2nd PG -- or at least designates one. I know he likes his traditional PG play, and it's very tough to ask another regular to change his role during play. Blair & Carey can be stewards of the offense (together or separately), but there are specific duties (vs press, late game, D responsibilities, etc.) where you would like a defined PG. I don't know if Berger is capable/comfortable enough with the ball to take that responsibility -- esp. throwing him into the fire vs SJU harassment. I know he was a nominal PG in HS. That would be the easiest solution I think -- if he could give us 10m in that role. Then Carey & Blair can concentrate on their spots at the 2/3. They also already play enough minutes as it is.
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Post by rhw485 on Dec 18, 2020 11:52:54 GMT -5
I wish Jalen and his family the best in terms of dealing with the family emergency.
When looking back at Dante's turnovers against the press, more were trying to throw lob passes over the top of it as opposed to his handles actually not being able to hold up. Probably just needed a little patience and hopefully learns from it. Not really worried about man press against him yet. If Dante is off the court, would expect both Blair and Carey to be on the court, so some rotation management required by Ewing.
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Post by bostonfan on Dec 18, 2020 12:06:13 GMT -5
With Jalen out now, obviously Dante's responsibility grows again. But Carey (6 TOs in the first game) and Blair (potentially brutal almost-TO at the end of regulation) need to help Dante out against pressure. Imperative those three guys can keep the turnovers down, especially in live-ball TO situations. It's also an opportunity for Berger to continue building off the minutes he's earned over the past few games. Hopeful he can continue to step up and give us some solid minutes. I think Berger will see minutes at the point with Jalen out. Not the easiest game to take on a lot of ball handling responsibility against the constant pressure that St John's throws at you, but Berger does seem to play with a calmness that should help and his height/length should help him with passing over the top of some that pressure. It will be a good test for his ability to play the point at this level. On the other hand, if they can break the press, having Berger on the floor will help spread the defense as they will need to account for him out at the 3 point line.
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Post by seaweed on Dec 18, 2020 13:02:58 GMT -5
With Jalen out now, obviously Dante's responsibility grows again. But Carey (6 TOs in the first game) and Blair (potentially brutal almost-TO at the end of regulation) need to help Dante out against pressure. Imperative those three guys can keep the turnovers down, especially in live-ball TO situations. It's also an opportunity for Berger to continue building off the minutes he's earned over the past few games. Hopeful he can continue to step up and give us some solid minutes. I think Berger will see minutes at the point with Jalen out. Not the easiest game to take on a lot of ball handling responsibility against the constant pressure that St John's throws at you, but Berger does seem to play with a calmness that should help and his height/length should help him with passing over the top of some that pressure. It will be a good test for his ability to play the point at this level. On the other hand, if they can break the press, having Berger on the floor will help spread the defense as they will need to account for him out at the 3 point line. Hopefully get Kobe Clark back, with decent handles and the ability to speed things up a bit for the offense. I know I heard he was injured, but can't recall the nature or extent of it, how long he'll be out etc. Was it a rolled ankle? We need you big fella, get well and help us out!
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Post by HometownHoya on Dec 18, 2020 13:33:18 GMT -5
I assume it'll be a PG by Committee when Dante is out and he'll even get help from the other guys when he is in. We can't depend on 1 PG to beat their press and especially so now that we're down to 1 true PG on the roster.
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Post by ewingitrust on Dec 19, 2020 7:13:40 GMT -5
It will fascinating to see how we perform on Sunday. We have 3pt shooting along with Q down low. Bile n Clark can do the dirty work...we definitely have pieces to build with. I think we'll exceed the expectations that we're set for the season. Go Hoyas!
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Post by HometownHoya on Dec 19, 2020 13:21:51 GMT -5
Any news on Kobe? Would be a nice wrinkle to have him back.
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Post by jwp91 on Dec 19, 2020 15:18:29 GMT -5
Any news on Kobe? Would be a nice wrinkle to have him back. Don’t expect him for Sunday is my interpretation from Coach’s pre-game presser.
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 20, 2020 16:37:14 GMT -5
St. John's -3.5
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Post by professorhoya on Dec 20, 2020 18:05:48 GMT -5
What channel?
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Post by jwp91 on Dec 20, 2020 18:16:10 GMT -5
Fox Sports 1
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 20, 2020 18:25:57 GMT -5
No overtime in Provy-SHU game, please.
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 20, 2020 18:31:11 GMT -5
Jinxed it, I guess.
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Post by jwp91 on Dec 20, 2020 18:36:33 GMT -5
Temporarily on FS2 and the app
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Post by jwp91 on Dec 20, 2020 18:43:43 GMT -5
Nobody has missed but Pickett. No offensive rebounds conceded.
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