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Post by RusskyHoya on Feb 5, 2024 9:36:46 GMT -5
Oh look...
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Post by prhoya on Feb 5, 2024 9:44:15 GMT -5
Do you have the link to the report? Thanks.
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 22, 2024 9:31:05 GMT -5
Yale will again require standardized test scores for admission Yale University will again require students to submit standardized test scores when they apply for admission, school officials said Thursday. The change comes after officials found that the scores were the single best predictor of students’ academic performance and that not considering them could be a disadvantage for those who have already faced daunting challenges. www.washingtonpost.com/education/2024/02/22/yale-sat-act-admissions-requirement-reinstated/
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 27, 2024 20:48:49 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 7, 2024 7:42:39 GMT -5
I think there is perhaps a nuance which the NYP fails to take into account. If you fail to answer correctly a "hard" question and fail to get to the harder section, your ultimate score is actually "severely limited." Additionally, you are penalized for incorrectly anwering an "easy" question. That never occurred on the earlier SATs. IOW, if you fail the initial module and don't advance to the more difficult module, there is a ceiling on the highest score you can attain and it will never be a greater score than a score attained by any student who advances to the more difficult module. Yes, the SAT is adaptive. There are now two Reading and two Math sections. How well you do on the first of each will determine whether you get easier or more difficult second-section questions. The benefit of an adaptive test is that It can be shorter since you’re seeing more questions that are targeted towards your ability level. But the downside is that, if you don’t get to that harder second section, your score will be severely limited. Additionally, the College Board is now using something called Item Response Theory to craft the SAT. There are tons of nerdy and awesome details there, but one important consequence for you to know is that getting a hard question correct is better for your score than getting an easy one correct. That seems fair. Right? But the other side of the coin is that getting easy questions wrong is worse for your score than getting hard questions wrong. That’s NEVER before been true on the SAT, but it is now. So what about those first questions? Yep, they’re really easy, but now it’s really bad for your score if you miss them. prepmatters.com/resources/what-the-college-board-isnt-telling-you-about-the-digital-sat/
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Post by Elvado on Mar 7, 2024 8:01:59 GMT -5
I think there is perhaps a nuance which the NYP fails to take into account. If you fail to answer correctly a "hard" question and fail to get to the harder section, your ultimate score is actually "severely limited." Additionally, you are penalized for incorrectly anwering an "easy" question. That never occurred on the earlier SATs. IOW, if you fail the initial module and don't advance to the more difficult module, there is a ceiling on the highest score you can attain and it will never be a greater score than a score attained by any student who advances to the more difficult module. Yes, the SAT is adaptive. There are now two Reading and two Math sections. How well you do on the first of each will determine whether you get easier or more difficult second-section questions. The benefit of an adaptive test is that It can be shorter since you’re seeing more questions that are targeted towards your ability level. But the downside is that, if you don’t get to that harder second section, your score will be severely limited. Additionally, the College Board is now using something called Item Response Theory to craft the SAT. There are tons of nerdy and awesome details there, but one important consequence for you to know is that getting a hard question correct is better for your score than getting an easy one correct. That seems fair. Right? But the other side of the coin is that getting easy questions wrong is worse for your score than getting hard questions wrong. That’s NEVER before been true on the SAT, but it is now. So what about those first questions? Yep, they’re really easy, but now it’s really bad for your score if you miss them. prepmatters.com/resources/what-the-college-board-isnt-telling-you-about-the-digital-sat/Thanks for the clarification. I guess one test for everybody would never work anymore.
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 7, 2024 8:11:59 GMT -5
I think there is perhaps a nuance which the NYP fails to take into account. If you fail to answer correctly a "hard" question and fail to get to the harder section, your ultimate score is actually "severely limited." Additionally, you are penalized for incorrectly anwering an "easy" question. That never occurred on the earlier SATs. IOW, if you fail the initial module and don't advance to the more difficult module, there is a ceiling on the highest score you can attain and it will never be a greater score than a score attained by any student who advances to the more difficult module. Yes, the SAT is adaptive. There are now two Reading and two Math sections. How well you do on the first of each will determine whether you get easier or more difficult second-section questions. The benefit of an adaptive test is that It can be shorter since you’re seeing more questions that are targeted towards your ability level. But the downside is that, if you don’t get to that harder second section, your score will be severely limited. Additionally, the College Board is now using something called Item Response Theory to craft the SAT. There are tons of nerdy and awesome details there, but one important consequence for you to know is that getting a hard question correct is better for your score than getting an easy one correct. That seems fair. Right? But the other side of the coin is that getting easy questions wrong is worse for your score than getting hard questions wrong. That’s NEVER before been true on the SAT, but it is now. So what about those first questions? Yep, they’re really easy, but now it’s really bad for your score if you miss them. prepmatters.com/resources/what-the-college-board-isnt-telling-you-about-the-digital-sat/Thanks for the clarification. I guess one test for everybody would never work anymore. Maybe this analogy is a bit tortured but the adaptive SAT scoring is like the NCAA March Madness pool. If you don't correctly choose the winners in the earlier brackets, it limits the total number of points available as a whole.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 7, 2024 8:13:51 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification. I guess one test for everybody would never work anymore. Maybe this analogy is a bit tortured but the adaptive SAT scoring is like the NCAA March Madness pool. If you don't correctly choose the winners in the earlier brackets, it limits the total number of points available as a whole. You have explained it very well. My question is why? To what end?
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 7, 2024 8:23:16 GMT -5
Maybe this analogy is a bit tortured but the adaptive SAT scoring is like the NCAA March Madness pool. If you don't correctly choose the winners in the earlier brackets, it limits the total number of points available as a whole. You have explained it very well. My question is why? To what end? The world's fascination with AI and technology and simply because it can? Perhaps it is believed to make the scores more an accurate reflection of capabilities, especially if a test taker is also penalized for missing the easy or easier questions?
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Post by RusskyHoya on Mar 8, 2024 13:00:19 GMT -5
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Post by CTHoya08 on Mar 8, 2024 14:22:03 GMT -5
Hasn't this been the case with one of the grad-school tests (maybe the GRE?) for like a decade now?
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Post by hoya9797 on Mar 9, 2024 18:40:24 GMT -5
Hasn't this been the case with one of the grad-school tests (maybe the GRE?) for like a decade now? The GMAT was like this when I took it 25 yrs ago.
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 11, 2024 8:30:36 GMT -5
Does admissions fairness make my campus look too female? Girls constitute two-thirds of the top 10 percent of their high school classes and apply to college at a higher rate than boys. A college that receives more (and more-qualified) female applicants than male but desires a “balanced” student body has to lower its standards for boys — and raise standards for girls. If you’re looking for gender parity on campus, “there’s not a lot you can do other than discriminate,” Charles Deacon, dean of admissions at Georgetown University, told the Hechinger Report www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/03/11/kate-cohen-affirmative-action-men/
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Post by RusskyHoya on Mar 11, 2024 13:17:45 GMT -5
Does admissions fairness make my campus look too female? Girls constitute two-thirds of the top 10 percent of their high school classes and apply to college at a higher rate than boys. A college that receives more (and more-qualified) female applicants than male but desires a “balanced” student body has to lower its standards for boys — and raise standards for girls. If you’re looking for gender parity on campus, “there’s not a lot you can do other than discriminate,” Charles Deacon, dean of admissions at Georgetown University, told the Hechinger Report www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/03/11/kate-cohen-affirmative-action-men/Well...sort of. You can also add more male-coded programs - engineering, math, computer science, etc. instead of female-coded ones like nursing, languages, education, etc. But there's major costs associated with that.
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 18, 2024 17:13:56 GMT -5
Colleges nationwide have been updating their coronavirus-era policies on standardized testing, which many dropped when the pandemic shut down in-person testing centers. Some of the most selective schools are declaring they will require tests again — including, across the last two months, Dartmouth College, Yale and Brown. Others, such as the University of Chicago and Columbia, won’t. And still others have not yet picked a permanent policy: Princeton, Stanford, Cornell and the University of Pennsylvania have said they will remain test-optional for another year or two, while Harvard University plans to keep its test-optional policy at least through the 2025-26 application cycle. MIT, Georgetown University and the University of Florida are among schools which quickly chose to reinstate the requirements, with MIT announcing the change in 2022. Many others have spent the years since the virus arrived studying what effect going test-optional had on their admitted classes. www.washingtonpost.com/education/2024/03/18/sat-test-policies-confuse-students/
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