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Post by hibernatinghoyafan on Oct 28, 2020 12:05:36 GMT -5
What is a little sad here is that 10/11 of those guys are expected to be gone next year unless some seniors who don't want to play professional bball return for a post-grad year. It'll be an extremely young league and we could easily jump to 3/4 next year in the Preseason if 2/6 freshman play at an All BE rookie level.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Oct 28, 2020 12:32:24 GMT -5
Promoting one means firing the other, and I'm guessing there is hesitance to fire anyone in the midst of this pandemic. The NCAA is supposedly planning to loosen some of the rules around what activities Special Assistants can participate in, and I believe I read somewhere this might include allowing them to be more involved in the recruiting process. Regardless- the recruiting is fine. We did as good as we possibly could in 2021 given what happened last year, and we might even considerably exceed those expectations if we land Aminu. Until the recruiting is bad again, I'm not stressing over who is an assistant and who is not. What's interesting is that because of the pandemic special assistants are more involved in recruiting. Special assistants are not allowed to recruit off campus (not allowed anyway during the pandemic) and are not allowed to initiate contact with a recruit (call or text them first). However they are allowed to be on calls with the rest of the coaching staff (Zoom etc.) and they are allowed to respond to recruits that reach out to them directly (and it seems at least some recruits have been reaching out to Coach Crouch directly because he has an active social media presence on Twitter and Instagram).
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Post by rhw485 on Oct 28, 2020 12:37:42 GMT -5
I'm not sure where this belongs but will just say this here....if you were of the opinion that Ewing should keep his job after Year 3, then you knew you were signing up for another 2 year cycle before you can judge the progress the program has made. There was simply no scenario where you can turn over 75% of a roster after the primary recruiting period and expect us to be in the middle of a good conference. I might have to keep repeating this to myself after games this year but it's reality.
I will be measuring success basically solely on Wahab's development, any semblance of improvement schematically on defense, and whether at least one of the freshmen look like they could develop into a starter on an NCAA team. That's the bar at this point.
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Post by MCIGuy on Oct 28, 2020 12:37:47 GMT -5
Promoting one means firing the other, and I'm guessing there is hesitance to fire anyone in the midst of this pandemic. The NCAA is supposedly planning to loosen some of the rules around what activities Special Assistants can participate in, and I believe I read somewhere this might include allowing them to be more involved in the recruiting process. Regardless- the recruiting is fine. We did as good as we possibly could in 2021 given what happened last year, and we might even considerably exceed those expectations if we land Aminu. Until the recruiting is bad again, I'm not stressing over who is an assistant and who is not. What's interesting is that because of the pandemic special assistants are more involved in recruiting. Special assistants are not allowed to recruit off campus (not allowed anyway during the pandemic) and are not allowed to initiate contact with a recruit (call or text them first). However they are allowed to be on calls with the rest of the coaching staff (Zoom etc.) and they are allowed to respond to recruits that reach out to them directly (and it seems at least some recruits have been reaching out to Coach Crouch directly because he has an active social media presence on Twitter and Instagram). Met him briefly one time. Really, really cool dude. Even forgave me for referring to him as Coach "Couch."
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Post by trillesthoya on Oct 28, 2020 12:49:02 GMT -5
I'm not sure where this belongs but will just say this here....if you were of the opinion that Ewing should keep his job after Year 3, then you knew you were signing up for another 2 year cycle before you can judge the progress the program has made. There was simply no scenario where you can turn over 75% of a roster after the primary recruiting period and expect us to be in the middle of a good conference. I might have to keep repeating this to myself after games this year but it's reality. I will be measuring success basically solely on Wahab's development, any semblance of improvement schematically on defense, and whether at least one of the freshmen look like they could develop into a starter on an NCAA team. That's the bar at this point. Good point. If people were going to be upset the time to be so was last November/December. The writing has been on the walls that Georgetown would be bad this season the second the transfers hit. In the meanwhile if our culture is fixed and we have some freshmen and sophomores that look promising, this season will be a success and a building point from which true success can be achieved.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Oct 28, 2020 13:52:46 GMT -5
Okay, since we are so deep in the cellar, every win in the BE would be an inspiration. We will not be expecting much this year except improvement by the new guys and advancement from the "veterans." As mentioned so many transfers left us in this situation, so will have to grin and bear it in the short term and hoping next year and the year after will be more fruitful.
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Post by MCIGuy on Oct 28, 2020 13:57:11 GMT -5
Here's hoping the coaches and players of Georgetown go into every game thinking and expecting to win.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Oct 28, 2020 15:08:27 GMT -5
This is probably the single most encouraging thing from Media Day that I've read: acknowledgement from the staff/players that we need to try something different defensively and prepare to proactively show opponents different looks as opposed to only coming out of our base defensive scheme after it's been bludgeoned to death for a half.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 15:26:09 GMT -5
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Post by hoyas315 on Oct 28, 2020 16:13:42 GMT -5
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Post by daveg023 on Oct 28, 2020 16:30:58 GMT -5
This is probably the single most encouraging thing from Media Day that I've read: acknowledgement from the staff/players that we need to try something different defensively and prepare to proactively show opponents different looks as opposed to only coming out of our base defensive scheme after it's been bludgeoned to death for a half. I agree. This is the most promising insight of anything discussed today.
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Post by jwp91 on Oct 28, 2020 20:47:56 GMT -5
This post is pathetic but unfortunately mirrors the mindset of HT fandom. If being thought of as the worst team in the league in year four isn’t pathetic, then what is? A fan bashing the results a meaningless preseason poll.
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Post by hoya9797 on Oct 28, 2020 20:54:37 GMT -5
If being thought of as the worst team in the league in year four isn’t pathetic, then what is? A fan bashing the results a meaningless preseason poll. I’m not bashing the results of the poll. I think they are probably right.
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Post by jwp91 on Oct 28, 2020 20:56:19 GMT -5
A fan bashing the results a meaningless preseason poll. I’m not bashing the results of the poll. I think they are probably right. Ok, Nostradamus.
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Post by hoya9797 on Oct 28, 2020 20:58:35 GMT -5
I’m not bashing the results of the poll. I think they are probably right. Ok, Nostradamus. Do you have an opinion on how the team will do this year?
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Oct 28, 2020 21:09:09 GMT -5
If being thought of as the worst team in the league in year four isn’t pathetic, then what is? A fan bashing the results a meaningless preseason poll. This is very poor leadership imo...
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Post by MCIGuy on Oct 29, 2020 1:27:52 GMT -5
This is probably the single most encouraging thing from Media Day that I've read: acknowledgement from the staff/players that we need to try something different defensively and prepare to proactively show opponents different looks as opposed to only coming out of our base defensive scheme after it's been bludgeoned to death for a half. I agree. This is the most promising insight of anything discussed today. I finally got around to reading these comments made by Ewing and the players and the most promising (or at least interesting) insight as far as I am concerned is all the talk about Timothy Ighoefe. This was unexpected. Seriously no one here has taken the time to mention this? Here is the first drop of his name yesterday: So Ewing is asked about the importance of Pickett and pivots to discussing other key guys to share the burden. mentioning names like Blair and Wahab were totally expected. But he threw in Ighoefe's name as well. Why is that? One could assume its because these four are the only returning scholarship players who got any run last season. But let's be real. People have known that all along and yet still no one has previously elevated Ighoefe's name to such a point that it is mentioned alongside Pickett, Blair and Wahab in this fashion. Once again the drop of Ighoefe's name. I'm not sure in what context his name was used in the form of a question (or even if his name had been brought up at all), but Ewing is is speaking of him once more. Normally I may have been worried or deflated that his words about him and Wahab are not exactly adulatory, but I know how highly Ewing thinks of Wahab because he has talked so highly above him in the recent past. Has spat out the typical cliché of the sky being the limit for Wahab. Ewing thinks Wahab has a big future ahead of him. And by his very words, by intertwining the trajectories of both of these two, young Nigerian big men, he is implicitly saying the same thing about Ighoefe. Like I said Ewing is extremely high on Wahab. He chose Wahab, as a sophomore, to be one of the two Hoya player representatives for Big East Media Day. Its a guarantee that Wahab is a starter. Nonetheless Aidan of Hoyas247 picked up something on Ewing's comments about Ighoefe and decided to press him about the possibility of Ighoefe taking some minutes, at the very least, from Wahab. Ewing's lack of a decided response, his lack of brushing such a question off altogether, can be interpreted as meaning that yes there is a chance of this. And that bodes very well imo for Ighoefe and the team. Lets go back to Hyas247 one last time with a quote from Wahab More Timmy talk! Wahab mentioning how he is comfortable at playing the four or five? Wahab talking about the idea of being on the floor at the same time as Ighoefe? Where have I come across this idea before? Oh, yeah. And this too. The first guy needs no introduction. The second, Duval Simmonds, is a former college basketball player and current trainer who has been working with Wahab before he even signed with Georgetown. What you get in both is the suggestion of not only playing Wahab and Ighoefe at the same time but also of the possibility that such an idea could actually work. It proposes a very exciting notion that either one of the guys or both can legitimately play the four. Its coming from two people with enough inside knowledge (pickup games, practice, summer workouts) about Wahab and Ighoefe to know if this can be done and if they can compliment one another. Funny that when I posted the tweet by Simmmonds weeks ago, HoyaTalkers almost immediately made it about how Wahab could play alongside Ryan Mutombo. Typical. As always Ighoefe remained an afterthought to them. But apparently he is not as much the non-factor they have made him out to be. Here's one more take: Philadelphia Hoya appears to be spotlighting a quote by John Fanta. This doesn't appear to be some random remark by Fanta in which he is being kind by throwing in Ighoefe's name because he too is a big man on scholarship. If that was the case why not mention Malcolm Wilson too? But notice how Wilson is not mention by name anywhere which means at this point Wilson hasn't shown enough separation from the pack to get acknowledge at this time. But Ighpefe has. Here are the observations by Fanta in their entirety: www.bigeast.com/news/2020/10/28/mens-basketball-big-east-media-day-notebook-11-takes.aspxGeorgetown Could we see a pair of sophomore Hoya towers on the floor at the same time this season? Patrick Ewing isn’t ruling it out, because he’s seeing two of his big men make progress together by competing against one another in practice. Georgetown will be led in the post by second-year big guys Qudus Wahab and Timothy Ighoefe. Wahab showed flashes of potential last season, including a six-block performance in February against DePaul. They will be relied upon to man the interior this season. I'd be willing to bet good money that Fanta wasn't even aware of Ighoefe or at least remembered him before today's media day. And now he's referencing Twin Towers? Considering how highly Fanta thinks of Wahab it is pretty doubtful he would even make such a reference unless the comments about Ighoefe succeeded in making an impression. One last nugget of info. On Hoya Report the moderator has supplied some brief info days back from Georgetown program insiders about first impressions of players in these early days of practice (please don't ask me/DM for info). The comments regarding Ighoefe, again while brief and not terribly specific, are encouraging and one of the more positive feedbacks. I find all of this to be promising insight. No one else? A seven foot big man weighing at least 250 pounds who has soft hands and is athletic and agile is not exactly a player that grows on trees. That he is apparently making very good progress should be catching everyone's attention.
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Post by HamptonHoya on Oct 29, 2020 4:41:59 GMT -5
MCIGuy, thank you for your positive vibes regarding the team. We can’t help how we are viewed by the rest of the BE or the basketball world. If people don this board don’t believe Coach isn’t going to use this as motivation then they are sadly mistaken.
Nevada made a comment that every BE win is going to be a step in the right direction. I wholeheartedly agree. I will take it one step farther, how will the other coaches feel getting beat by a last place team? I may have a taste for Kool Aid, but I believe in Coach and the program. The ball is going to bounce our way more than a few times this year. I truly believe with our length, our defense improves and that is going to turn into a better offense. I am expecting some contributions from our transfers. Just like Fess Irvin and Steve Hood.
Out!
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Post by calhoya on Oct 29, 2020 7:27:34 GMT -5
Nice read MCI. Have to admit though I am having a real tough time accepting the role of afterthought. So many years as one of the top dogs and now praying for a miracle year in which the team can pull off some surprises. It's a transition I struggle with every time I think of the state of the program. Hope like hell that Ewing is the guy, because if he is not this "new" Hoya identity could last for years.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Oct 29, 2020 8:48:42 GMT -5
Boy would I LOVE to see Q and Timmy out there at the same time. I really feel like Timmy is an asset and we need to let him get more experience to see what he becomes. He has serious upside.
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