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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Nov 20, 2019 10:44:03 GMT -5
I don't see it either.
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Post by centercourt400s on Nov 20, 2019 11:30:03 GMT -5
I’m surprised by the amount of optimism going into this. I’m actually concerned this could be a painful two days, so much so I’m on the fence about going to the Garden despite having tickets and being a short train ride away (part of that has to do with possibly enduring my Duke friend’s taunts if I go with him). It’s like we go through this cycle every 3-4 days around games. The day before a game everyone is optimistic. Then the game comes and we lay an egg and every starter must be benched and Patrick should be fired. Then 48 hours pass and suddenly we are beating Texas and Duke on consecutive nights. I have seen maybe 25 decent minutes of basketball from this team, so I find it hard to believe we are going to show well against the two ranked teams who are every bit our equal physically and athletically. Obviously as a fan I’m rooting for the opposite and my heart will try to talk me into how we can win, but I just don’t see it. To me a game against Cal on Friday is a 50/50 proposition at best. Just surprised given last game how many more people have convinced themselves we are going to suddenly improve over night against higher competition. Its a long season and we are only 4 games in. I think everyone will agree that the team has yet to play up to their potential. A pessimist will say that the team is going to continue to under-perform. An optimist will say that the potential will be realized sooner or later or at least there will be improvement. A middle-of-the-road person will say that with a young team it is hard to predict what quality level you will get on any given night so it is hard to know how to feel about future outcomes against quality opponents. Basically saying that I understand both sides but for me, watching the Capitals and the Nationals over the last two years has re-taught me that there is a place for optimism in sports. Put me in that camp until its proven otherwise.
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Post by calhoya on Nov 20, 2019 12:49:46 GMT -5
If going strictly by what they have shown so far this could very well be two losses. In 3 of the 4 games the team simply has not played well in the first half. They have yet to play two good halves in the same game. At no time has the defense looked much improved, except when pressing. More important is determining if the offense is as limited as it appears in terms of perimeter shooting. Texas will have no problem sitting back and making the Hoyas prove they can consistently hit the outside shot and this is going to make life hard for Yurtseven. McClung has to continue to hit his shots of course, but he and Akinjo must also get others involved in the offense besides Yurtseven--something discussed by the coach but not often seen yet. I believe that both Texas and Duke are significantly better than Penn St. California may be as good. Time for the Hoyas to start to show what they will be this year. As always, will leave work early to catch the game on the West Coast and hope for the best.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Nov 20, 2019 14:16:16 GMT -5
Let's face it, it all comes down to whether or not Ewing does away with the insane line changes and sticks to what worked in the second half of the Ga State game. If he still refuses to start Leblanc (and/or play him at least 30 mins) and have Pickett be a 4, we'll be left tearing our hair out. I'm crossing my fingers that he does, but his comments on his weekly show about the rotations doesn't give me a ton of hope. Please play your best guys and take advantage of this opportunity.
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 20, 2019 14:43:11 GMT -5
Let's face it, it all comes down to whether or not Ewing does away with the insane line changes and sticks to what worked in the second half of the Ga State game. If he still refuses to start Leblanc (and/or play him at least 30 mins) and have Pickett be a 4, we'll be left tearing our hair out. I'm crossing my fingers that he does, but his comments on his weekly show about the rotations doesn't give me a ton of hope. Please play your best guys and take advantage of this opportunity.I agree 100% with these points... I'd also add in giving Alexander a good chance to see what he can do in extended playing time... Y7, Mosely, Akinjo, Mac, LeBlanc, Pickett, Alexander & Allen is who I'd like to see the staff roll with for the great bulk of the minutes...
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Nov 20, 2019 16:05:14 GMT -5
Let's face it, it all comes down to whether or not Ewing does away with the insane line changes and sticks to what worked in the second half of the Ga State game. If he still refuses to start Leblanc (and/or play him at least 30 mins) and have Pickett be a 4, we'll be left tearing our hair out. I'm crossing my fingers that he does, but his comments on his weekly show about the rotations doesn't give me a ton of hope. Please play your best guys and take advantage of this opportunity.I agree 100% with these points... I'd also add in giving Alexander a good chance to see what he can do in extended playing time... Y7, Mosely, Akinjo, Mac, LeBlanc, Pickett, Alexander & Allen is who I'd like to see the staff roll with for the great bulk of the minutes... Agreed. I think Alexander/Mosely should be our keys off the bench. Alexander I think in particular can be a big X factor.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 16:16:21 GMT -5
Texas' 3 point shooting percentage is a bit misleading. Their primary guys are shooting just fine from 3. Ramey is coming off injury and is 1-17 this year, but he shot 38.5% as a Frosh. The other 5 of their top 6 rotation guys are shooting about 41% from 3 combined.
The bottom of their roster is shooting 1-26. That's doing a lot to bring down their overall percentage. It's a mistake to think these guys can't shoot.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Nov 20, 2019 16:21:23 GMT -5
Posting this link about Michigan and Texas Tech defenses for a few reasons (apologies if this was posted elsewhere as it's from last season): 1. Texas hired Michigan's defensive coordinator Luke Yaklich in offseason, so this should give some insight to his preferred scheme. 2. The Texas Tech scheme is fascinating to me and goes to show how you can dictate to the offense. It's easy to say it given their success but this would be my preferred scheme in ideal world. Switch screens, ice pick n rolls, invite baseline and knowing your rotations is easier because the drive is always coming from same place At end of video, the narrator makes the point that it's more about the players executing the schemes than the schemes themselves, but still shows different ways to approach defense. Thanks for sharing this video. I have spent a lot of years doing these kind of film breakdowns. The creator of this content does a very good job of breaking down defensive concepts, tendencies, and hits on a ton vital information. I could and have watched film like this for hours. As someone who watches Villanova closely, it drives me crazy when BIG EAST teams help on the driver (most recently & usually Gillespie) instead of staying home. Villanova's only purpose for driving into the lane at all is to suck in the defense and kick out for a three ball. Glad to see other video evidence corroborating my views on their system. As always, the Jimmy's & Joe's make the difference. When it was Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart, Mikal Bridges, & Divincenzo, staying at home with shooters is a lot harder to do as all four them are finishers. I'll include Phil Booth & Eric Paschall in that group as well. That's the difference in why Villanova ran Michigan off the court in the National Championship to then Michigan blowing Villanova out on its home court the next season. This Villanova team imo is missing that ability to put their head down and get a bucket so far. That's why Bryan Antoine is the most important player on this current roster. He has that speed, skill, & athleticism to not only get in the paint but finish on a consistent enough basis to make you pay for not helping early when he attacks the paint.
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Post by hoyas315 on Nov 20, 2019 18:11:52 GMT -5
Texas -4.5 opening line
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Post by hoyas315 on Nov 20, 2019 19:15:49 GMT -5
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Post by guru on Nov 20, 2019 20:31:45 GMT -5
Having seen our first 4 games, it’s hard to realistically see us being close to any of our possible opponents this weekend.
Also, still some MSG PTSD from the Big East Tourney game against Seton Hall last March. I’m bracing for similar ugliness.
Hope I’m wrong.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Nov 20, 2019 20:48:51 GMT -5
I’m surprised by the amount of optimism going into this. I’m actually concerned this could be a painful two days, so much so I’m on the fence about going to the Garden despite having tickets and being a short train ride away (part of that has to do with possibly enduring my Duke friend’s taunts if I go with him). It’s like we go through this cycle every 3-4 days around games. The day before a game everyone is optimistic. Then the game comes and we lay an egg and every starter must be benched and Patrick should be fired. Then 48 hours pass and suddenly we are beating Texas and Duke on consecutive nights. I have seen maybe 25 decent minutes of basketball from this team, so I find it hard to believe we are going to show well against the two ranked teams who are every bit our equal physically and athletically. Obviously as a fan I’m rooting for the opposite and my heart will try to talk me into how we can win, but I just don’t see it. To me a game against Cal on Friday is a 50/50 proposition at best. Just surprised given last game how many more people have convinced themselves we are going to suddenly improve over night against higher competition. This is exactly how I feel. Nothing I've seen in the first 4 games makes me feel even remotely optimistic about tomorrow. Could they play significantly better and be competitive over the next 2 days? Sure. But there's no evidence so far this season from both a team and coaching perspective that would lead me to believe we've turned the corner from last season. Really hoping this is not a wasted trip to NYC for me as well as this program.
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Post by ewingitrust on Nov 20, 2019 20:51:58 GMT -5
I think the team/coaching will improve in MSG. Regardless of rotations players have to produce when called upon. Beating Texas will be a major breakthrough. Me thinks the team is eager to win.
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Post by kettlehill on Nov 20, 2019 23:53:25 GMT -5
I think to have a chance the guys have to bring an intensity from the get go. I don’t think much of Dony Marshall as a TV color man- he is usually unprepared- but he had a couple of good points during our last game: he implied that Patrick needed to reconsider his “mad scientist” substitution patterns and that this team- to get to the next level- needs a real in your face leader. The team apparently has good chemistry ( IMHO) but it really does need a leader. James? Jagan? Someone needs to step up......
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Post by mdtd on Nov 21, 2019 1:04:51 GMT -5
There aren't many times where I will say a player needs to start, as I believe that minutes are much more important and will mention minutes over who starts as a priority, but LeBlanc absolutely needs to start this game. I think this game goes to completely different ways if he starts or not, regardless of if the minutes end up being the same. If LeBlanc isn't to start and is t be benched, I see the game going as follows: Texas starts on a run and attacks very well, with their guys hitting a few shots and Ewing having to call a TO within the first five minutes, and the team is down by 12 until that timeout. The game becomes catchup and while going better than the Penn State game, that lost timeout becomes crucial and the Hoyas fall. If he is to start, the game stays close early, with some runs being made by both teams. The offense looks better and the Texas guards are more tentative to drive then if he wasn't in. The Hoyas can get out on the break and LeBlanc makes a few big plays, to keep the game close. The Hoyas are within striking distance and can win this game, it comes down to late-game execution.
As for the rest of the rotation in both games, but mainly this one, I want to see the rotations shortened in the second half 100%. The team is going to have to be on their A-game and will need to ride hot hands. The starters should always have the most minutes, but what I mean by having them shortened in the second half is that I want to see if anyone on the bench is playing really well. If so, let them play until it slows down. If Blair gets out there in the first and is 2/2 from three in his short time, let him play. If he's 0/2 and getting beat on defense badly, sit him down and wait until tomorrow to play him. Same with Gardner and guys like that. I want to see that small-ball lineup over Wahab more, it looked much smoother and fits what Ewing wants to do. Huge game, get it done.
I think the Hoyas can keep this close, and don't have a concrete prediction on this one, it's going to be a fun game, hopefully. And whatever team ends up playing Cal will beat them by 10+. Cal is by far the worst team in this tournament, they need time to rebuild.
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Post by daveg023 on Nov 21, 2019 7:48:44 GMT -5
Already moved to Texas -6.5
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Post by jwp91 on Nov 21, 2019 8:20:54 GMT -5
Can’t wait....for a great performance
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Post by hoyasaxa18 on Nov 21, 2019 9:20:35 GMT -5
Interesting that Will Baker, a 5-star freshman big man who Ewing recruited, barely plays for Texas this year. I wonder what the situation is there.
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Post by smokeyjack on Nov 21, 2019 9:24:13 GMT -5
There's a podcast called 'Big Game Pod' that features a preview between Georgetown and Texas, based on the team concepts offensively and defensively. It's about an hour long, and while it's not very favorable towards our team or Ewing as a coach, it's interesting to listen to some of the different approaches that each team can take. It would hard to be anything but negative about Pat to this point, because his in-game coaching has been poor to atrocious and his recruiting surprisingly forgettable. I hope a light goes on and he completely flips the script going forward, but who among us actually has true confidence and not just blind loyalty? But I’ll be there tonight, because while I’m critical and very skeptical, I also care very deeply.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2019 9:42:41 GMT -5
Interesting that Will Baker, a 5-star freshman big man who Ewing recruited, barely plays for Texas this year. I wonder what the situation is there. Haven't watched them one minute, but i see he's put up 7 threes out of 8 total shots. Odd. Anyway - maybe we thump them tonight, he reconsiders his choice of school, and transfers over to be part of the Hoya renaissance for the next couple of years.
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