jwp91
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Post by jwp91 on Nov 22, 2019 11:21:09 GMT -5
I am not sure the lethargic atmosphere at CapOne explains the all the difference between what we have seen the last 4 games from and energy and intensity perspective and what we saw against Texas, but it certainly doesn’t help. Hopefully the student body and community can get behind the program again after a strong showing this week. Given the amazingly negative attitude on this board leading up to the Texas game isn't it really hypocritical to call out the Capital One crowds so far this year? Aren't they just a reflection of the same attitude that so many on the board have displayed? In every home game so far the team has come out flat, played poorly at the start and showed little energy as compared to our opponents. Do posters really expect the crowd to be going wild when the team was down by 19 points to Mt. St. Marys? Or when they were getting dominated by Penn State? Or when they were losing at the half vs Georgia State? How was the state of the board at those times? Why would anyone expect the crowd, whose members at least made the effort to go to the games, be any different? Poor play will quiet any crowd and there has been a lot of poor play at Capital One so far this year. If we had played with the same energy vs Penn State I guarantee the crowd would have been much more vocal in that one. I probably been more direct than anyone calling out those on this board with negative attitudes. I expect more from the fans, and I expect more from this sub-community. If someone can’t see what Patrick is building, then I am sad for them. One of the best pieces of wisdom I have heard is that progress is never linear. There are always ups and downs. Always. You can believe we are re-building something great, but you don’t have to....you can believe we are stuck in mediocrity or worse.... in which case I ask why bother wasting your time following Georgetown basketball? Don’t you have a good book to read? (Do you need a recommendation. I really enjoyed Born a Crime) Or is this the socially acceptable way to express your masochism? I was at the PSU game. There was no one at the game to see them get dominated so your point doesn’t hold. The place was empty at the tip. The recruits notice. Sibley called out the lack of fan support as a reason against attending the Hoyas. I get all the reasons why support is the way it is. But we should all realize that the community to which we belong contributes to the lack of intensity we see from our team at home. Collectively, we aren’t doing our part.
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Post by centercourt400s on Nov 22, 2019 11:28:41 GMT -5
Given the amazingly negative attitude on this board leading up to the Texas game isn't it really hypocritical to call out the Capital One crowds so far this year? Aren't they just a reflection of the same attitude that so many on the board have displayed? In every home game so far the team has come out flat, played poorly at the start and showed little energy as compared to our opponents. Do posters really expect the crowd to be going wild when the team was down by 19 points to Mt. St. Marys? Or when they were getting dominated by Penn State? Or when they were losing at the half vs Georgia State? How was the state of the board at those times? Why would anyone expect the crowd, whose members at least made the effort to go to the games, be any different? Poor play will quiet any crowd and there has been a lot of poor play at Capital One so far this year. If we had played with the same energy vs Penn State I guarantee the crowd would have been much more vocal in that one. I probably been more direct than anyone calling out those on this board with negative attitudes. I expect more from the fans, and I expect more from this sub-community. If someone can’t see what Patrick is building, then I am sad for them. One of the best pieces of wisdom I have heard is that progress is never linear. There are always ups and downs. Always. You can believe we are re-building something great, but you don’t have to....you can believe we are stuck in mediocrity or worse.... in which case I ask why bother wasting your time following Georgetown basketball? Don’t you have a good book to read? (Do you need a recommendation. I really enjoyed Born a Crime) Or is this the socially acceptable way to express your masochism? I was at the PSU game. There was no one at the game to see them get dominated so your point doesn’t hold. The place was empty at the tip. The recruits notice. Sibley called out the lack of fan support as a reason against attending the Hoyas. I get all the reasons why support is the way it is. But we should all realize that the community to which we belong contributes to the lack of intensity we see from our team at home. Collectively, we aren’t doing our part. There are two variables: size of the crowd and attitude of the crowd The crowd sizes aren't what we want and there are many documented reasons for that. I wish more people would join us and that student participation would increase. A win tonight will hopefully wake people up. The crowd attitude is dependent on circumstances and as I wrote earlier the circumstances have dictated depressed attitudes by a large number of fans, both online and in person. Improved energy and continued improved play will make a huge difference here.
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smokeyjack
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Post by smokeyjack on Nov 22, 2019 11:37:03 GMT -5
Here's the most surprising statistic from last night's game. The Hoyas played their best defense of the year and yet: Akinjo--0 fouls McClung--1 foul Pickett--1 foul Mosley--1 foul LeBlanc--1 foul That combination of good defense and no fouls will win a lot of games. That’s a great point. Other than Yurt, Hoyas played an unusually foul-free game while playing easily their best defensive game of the season. Game was officiated oddly in that many if not most of the fouls called on both teams (until last 8 min of Akinjo isos) were offensive/position fouls. They really let the teams play on drives to the rim on both ends...which was hugely to our advantage. Also, as much as I’m not a huge Allen fan offensively, he and Jagan do take a tremendous amount of pressure off of James on the defensive end. Pickett was simply sublime on both ends.
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Post by wrestlemania on Nov 22, 2019 11:54:02 GMT -5
Last night was a must win for this group following last Thursday's performance. For once, we were the more desperate team and it showed for 40 minutes. Agree with all comments that not only shortening the bench but using the bench strategically with starters was key. We looked like a team that had a plan to execute and was well-prepared to do it with a sustained high level of energy last night, and I hope that is the norm moving forward. Phenomenal atmosphere at the Garden; props to all the Hoya fans who showed up. Think it definitely had a significant impact to the game. Tonight will be rougher sledding from a crowd perspective so those of us in attendance need to bring it. For what it's worth, I think it's great that Chvotkin still does the "HOYAS WIN!! HOYAS WIN!!" thing when they are up 16 with three-tenths of a second left in the game.
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drquigley
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Post by drquigley on Nov 22, 2019 12:14:27 GMT -5
Here's the most surprising statistic from last night's game. The Hoyas played their best defense of the year and yet: Akinjo--0 fouls McClung--1 foul Pickett--1 foul Mosley--1 foul LeBlanc--1 foul That combination of good defense and no fouls will win a lot of games. That’s a great point. Other than Yurt, Hoyas played an unusually foul-free game while playing easily their best defensive game of the season. Game was officiated oddly in that many if not most of the fouls called on both teams (until last 8 min of Akinjo isos) were offensive/position fouls. They really let the teams play on drives to the rim on both ends...which was hugely to our advantage. Also, as much as I’m not a huge Allen fan offensively, he and Jagan do take a tremendous amount of pressure off of James on the defensive end. Pickett was simply sublime on both ends. And only 10 turnovers!
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Post by bostonfan on Nov 22, 2019 12:44:23 GMT -5
Here's the most surprising statistic from last night's game. The Hoyas played their best defense of the year and yet: Akinjo--0 fouls McClung--1 foul Pickett--1 foul Mosley--1 foul LeBlanc--1 foul That combination of good defense and no fouls will win a lot of games. That’s a great point. Other than Yurt, Hoyas played an unusually foul-free game while playing easily their best defensive game of the season. Game was officiated oddly in that many if not most of the fouls called on both teams (until last 8 min of Akinjo isos) were offensive/position fouls. They really let the teams play on drives to the rim on both ends...which was hugely to our advantage. Also, as much as I’m not a huge Allen fan offensively, he and Jagan do take a tremendous amount of pressure off of James on the defensive end. Pickett was simply sublime on both ends. I think the reduction in fouling has been a focus of Ewing since he became the coach. You see much better defensive fundamentals and less "out of control" fouls from the Hoyas. I think in some ways it has led to the defense leaving shooters a little more room than they should in an attempt to not foul. It is such a fine line in the college game between good, aggressive and physical defense and fouling that some times the Hoyas have erred on the side of not fouling and giving too much space. As the players get more accustomed to what they can and cannot get away with each game the defense should tighten up.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Nov 22, 2019 13:53:32 GMT -5
Many props to Coach Ewing for putting the right guys on the court at the proper time, for the defensive schemes used, and for instilling player motivation last night.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 22, 2019 14:45:52 GMT -5
The two games we've played well this year, we've worn blue and grey. The three games we looked like crap we wore white x2 and teal. Coincidence? I think not. Retire the alternates. Was that Blue? My wife and I honestly couldn't tell if it was dark navy or black. Depending on how zoomed in they were it seemed to change my mind of what color it was.
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 22, 2019 15:11:35 GMT -5
Yep, dark navy blue.
Yurtseven was altogether too handsy on both ends for last night’s officials. I don’t think his footwork or positioning were off, he just had a couple of plays where a yank or a reach was blatant.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Nov 22, 2019 15:57:25 GMT -5
I've been as critical as anyone of Ewing thus far this season, but last night's result is why. We have that ability to be really really good like we were. If what he was doing was to sort out his lineups then so be it. Kudos to coach for making adjustments and of course kudos to the kids for executing! Great win, let's build off of it!
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 22, 2019 16:14:54 GMT -5
Too early to worry about computer ranking but again I’m baffled. We beat a ranked team on a mistral court by 16 and we only go from 72 to 63 in at Ken Pom. Right now Texas was "overrated". At least that's the way most will look at our victory. That's why playing a competitive game tonight is very important. The computers and analysts won't poo poo away a close, neutral site game against Duke... hard to dismiss texas as completely overrated since they already have a quality win @ a then ranked Purdue team. I suppose you can say well they were overrated too, but then people wil rationalize away anything. Heck if we beat Duke they'll say they were overrated too.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2019 17:13:50 GMT -5
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