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Post by tashoya on Nov 9, 2019 22:32:05 GMT -5
My two candidates for more minutes than expected this season are Mosely and Alexander. Gardner may fight his way onto this list. If the first 2 games are indicative of anything, Mac had better step up his D or he's going to lose minutes.
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Post by tashoya on Nov 9, 2019 22:36:43 GMT -5
For seven minutes of playing time, he was awfully productive. He was 2-5 with 2 offensive rebounds and 1 defensive rebounds. He also had 3 fouls. For his 2nd game, that is not too bad for me. Does he need to improve? Yes..but I’ll take it. Did you watch the game or are you just looking at the box score? He had three air balls, 2 on out of control drives. One of which he got his own rebound and put it back in which accounts for one offensive rebound and 2 points. Deer in headlights on offense, somewhat lost on defense. I’m not down on the kid, just saying he may not be ready yet to be part of rotation as competition improves. Which is OK. He a freshman. Qudus, on the other hand looks ready to contribute— and Alexander is gong to be important off the bench. I agree with the offensive part. But he's got a better handle than expected and offense tends to be off really early on in a guy's college career. Be it the speed or jitters. But it's not atypical. He seems to have decent defensive instincts and he's working on that end. He also closes out quickly. Strictly on D, IMO, he's well above average for a freshman.
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Post by tashoya on Nov 9, 2019 22:42:40 GMT -5
Team needs time to jell and develop chemistry. We have good personnel. Yurtseven looks good; first game for Josh.pleasantly surprised at Mosley's shooting. I like that he is confident enough to take the shots and glad that he is making shots. The off-season conditioning is working. Mac has to find his shot. In game 1, Mac was 6-9; 2-4. More concerned with his D and better judgement within the offense. His defense hasn't improved even a little. That's very concerning. He has also made a couple of horrible drives that were poor decisions as a freshman but unacceptable as a soph. Two games in, I don't think it's fair to say what Mac has changed/improved yet because it seems like the returning guys are deferring a bit to help get the "new" (because I include Yurt7 as new) guys up to speed. I think we have a lot of quality depth and that it's going to pay dividends for each player and also allow for playing some match-ups depending on the opponent. I really like this squad.
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Post by jwp91 on Nov 9, 2019 23:07:38 GMT -5
For seven minutes of playing time, he was awfully productive. He was 2-5 with 2 offensive rebounds and 1 defensive rebounds. He also had 3 fouls. For his 2nd game, that is not too bad for me. Does he need to improve? Yes..but I’ll take it. Did you watch the game or are you just looking at the box score? He had three air balls, 2 on out of control drives. One of which he got his own rebound and put it back in which accounts for one offensive rebound and 2 points. Deer in headlights on offense, somewhat lost on defense. I’m not down on the kid, just saying he may not be ready yet to be part of rotation as competition improves. Which is OK. He a freshman. Qudus, on the other hand looks ready to contribute— and Alexander is gong to be important off the bench. I watched the game. I remember the air ball from 3. I think Myron is on a trajectory to contribute this year- maybe not in the most important games of this year but in many of the others. He is one of the best rebounders on the team with Yurt and Josh. He is outstanding in transition offense and defense. Is he making freshman mistakes? Yes. Would we be in trouble if he were playing 30 minutes a game? Yes. But for our 10/11th player, I like what I see. He can be a useful piece of the puzzle.
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Post by Eurostar on Nov 9, 2019 23:23:57 GMT -5
Even though those first 2 games have been closer than they should have, I see good signs in this team.
Yurtseven is fantastic and the low post / rebounding / high energy guy that Jesse wasn't.
Jamorko looks more confident this year. He had some drives today where it looked like his handle has improved since last season.
Akinjo and Mac will be fine. Only disappointment so far is that Mac's deficiencies seem similar to last year (defense and lack of passing vision on his drives).
Alexander will be good for us. It will be hard to keep him out of the lineup.
Allen is a great backup PG. We are lucky to have 2 vocal floor generals.
I have a very positive review of Patrick over his first 3 years so far. Even if we aren't getting 5 star recruits (yet) or contending for Final 4 spots every year, we are playing an exciting up and down style that is enjoyable to watch. If we keep playing this style, are reasonably successful, and get guys into the league, the high level recruits will come.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Nov 10, 2019 0:46:11 GMT -5
I just finished watching the second half off my DVR, and a few game thoughts:
1. This is going to be contrarian, but I really do not think our team has nearly the depth everyone thinks we have. The top 7-8 guys we have are clearly better than the remainder. In my mind, in any tough game, some combination of Akinjo, McClung, Mosely, Pickett, LeBlanc, and Yurtseven need to play a ton of minutes, with Allen and Alexander getting a good bit too. Beyond that, I am not so sure.
I know that it was likely because we played Central Arkansas and Yurtseven getting fouls, but if we play a lot of games where Yurtseven plays 19 minutes, and LeBlanc 17, we are going to be playing suboptimally. I am assuming this is because Ewing wanted to get other guys minutes, but I'll be looking for both of them to get a lot more time.
2. Our defense is still pretty bad. The communication and cohesiveness is just not there. I know it was the en vogue HoyaTalk take to blame Govan for this last year, but it wasn't the case then and it's certainly not the case now. Central Arkansas scored 0.95 points per possession. The 232nd best offense. That's a problem. Which is why LeBlanc needs to play more; he elevates the defensive game a lot.
3. Mosely looked really good again, and Pickett had a pretty nice game too.
4. Yurtseven looked pretty good too, but had 4 turnovers, but otherwise had a nice game. He needs to be a bit more careful with the ball but seems to have a really nice touch around the basket, and I think he's clearly - by far - our best option at the 5 and in tougher games like Penn State, should play as much as he can. (This is a good example of not having depth; we literally have depth in that we can throw bodies on the floor in Wahab, Wilson, Ighoefe, but it's not very useful when Yurtseven is many degrees better than all of them.)
5. Central Arkansas (265 coming into today, 257 now) proves why Georgetown should never play the 300+ level opponents. Central Arkansas is still a pretty beatable bad team, but they provide more of a challenge than the 300+ level teams that Georgetown could beat with their eyes closed. And these teams aren't so bad that they wreck our strength of schedule and metrics.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Nov 10, 2019 1:02:49 GMT -5
Not really - but I can look it up after the game on KenPom and tell you. I probably won’t finish the game until later, off DVR, though. Thanks. I have a KenPom subscription too. I was just curious if there was a quick formula to see where we stood halfway through the game. I would guess that with 54 points that we should be >110? For what it's worth, we had 43 possessions during the first half, 39 second half, 82 total (a very fast game). First Half Offensive PPP: 1.26 Second Half Offensive PPP: 0.90 First Half Defensive PPP: 0.98 Second Half Defensive PPP: 0.92 Offense Full Game PPP: 1.09 Defense Full Game PPP: 0.95 (Excluding OT games which obviously have more time than a normal game, the most possessions a Ewing coached team has had in regulation is 87. The slowest Ewing coached game has had 65 possessions. So, in most games not involving overtime, it'll likely be in that range. For comparison purposes, last season the average number of possessions in Division 1 was 69. Since the shot clock changed from 35 to 30, this has been pretty constant. However, the new 20 second shot clock reset rule for offensive rebounds might push that up this year.)
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Nov 10, 2019 4:24:30 GMT -5
My big worry for next year is replacing Yurt7, so giving Wahab minutes is important.
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Post by MCIGuy on Nov 10, 2019 7:01:26 GMT -5
I agree with pretty much everything Ewing said in his post game interview, especially his annoyance that the team didn't finish off the opponent in the second half and instead traded baskets. That annoyed me too. I'm not certain what the team can do about giving up these three-pointers. Plenty of times the guys on Central Arkansas simply made contested shots, sometimes they made ridiculous ones way beyond the arc. What I do know is that I would rather give up midrange two-pointers than these three-point shots, especially if Gtown can't match from the outside.
Yurtseven....is a ridiculous rebounder. Even when not playing that many minutes all things considered. His post moves are pretty effective as well. All those short shots he was missing in the Bahamas he is now making. Still it amazes me that he hasn't even tried a jumpshot yet. In this day and age it seems so strange, probably more so for the team that is guarding him.
Would still like to see Pickett shoot more. Was most angry that his pretty pullup jumper was wiped away because the ref called him for travelling.
About half of Mac's misses came before the first official time out. And all of them were shots he could have/should have made. They simply didn't fall. Even his attempts at threes looked good but it was unfortunately one of those days. My biggest gripe with him was on that one-man fastbreak attempt early in the first half in which he missed the layup. I have to say this but he is going to have to try taking a chance by using that 48-inch vertical and try throwing it down more often in those scenarios. I understand the risk of an injury and all but he has to get going. Its early but I see a picture forming and its that of a team that can really exceed expectations if Mac is smartly and effectively attacking. And that's not just in hitting shots but also in distributing. His two assists both came on aggressive drives which the opponents thought he was probably looking to score but I knew ahead of time he was going to pass. How did I know? Because each time he went FULL HEAD OF STEAM when driving straight to the hole. He doesn't go that hard at that speed often enough when he is looking to score at the basket.
In the previous game the bench shot horribly and the much better shooting percentage could be found from the starters. In this game that was mostly reversed thanks to a horrible shooting game from James and Mac, but the bench stepped up. Imagine when both units shoot well or at least decently.
Looking at the box score and I'm amazed just how relatively little minutes our starters got. Regardless of the reasons for it and regardless of how much f a difference it would have made, that does have to be viewed as a positive. The second half was dominated by the bench in terms of minutes and we still held serve.
That first four minutes was the best stretch of rebounding,especially on the offensive end, that I've seen from a Hoyas team since the days of Zo and Deke. I don't care who the competition was.
This is the best I've seen of Jagan in terms of back-to-back performances. I don't care who the competition was. His three-point shooting is right now of the level I was expecting from Jahvon. That said.... please put Leblanc back in the starting lineup.
Our three super sophs each failed to reach double figures and the team still won comfortably if not impressively. That's a good thing.
Leblanc's dunk was the darn play of the game, considering where he started, the pass from James and the finish by Josh.
For some reason I'm not concerned when Qudus is on the floor. Guy is gonna be a stud. Gonna get killed for this but I see some freshman Tim Duncan in him already, but with better hops.
Akinjo didn't play much and couldn't make shots but he managed to rack seven assists anyway. The best passer the team has had in a LONG while, maybe as far back as Kenny Brunner which I've mentioned before.
I don't agree with the criticism of Gardner. Sure he may be trying to do to much but I see that as a guy trying to make every second count. I love his aggression and because he is playing in his first couple of games of college ball he is attempting to take advantage of any opportunity. I wish Pickett had that type of attacking attitude. Let's give it some more weeks before people start calling for reduced minutes. One thing he is doing very well is rebounding.
The Hoyas had back-to-black explosive scoring halves. Unfortunately they occurred over two separate games.
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Post by lichoya68 on Nov 10, 2019 9:34:52 GMT -5
gardner is a beast imo will see alot of time nose for the ball big strong quick tough especially around the rim and on d yup great find. ps so far Jagan has Been BRILLY PHILLY South jersey tough yup
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Post by hoya1984 on Nov 10, 2019 12:44:14 GMT -5
After watching the first two games, I think Jagan Mosely needs to start with Akinjo, Pickett , Josh and Yurt. Jagan is the most unselfish of our guards and is always looking for the assist. So far, Jagan's play has been excellent. I also like Galen Alexander great stroke from 3.I have to agree that Mac looks more as a playmaker when he has the ball on his hands, therefore he should start with the second unit. This is my two cents. Go HOYAS.
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Post by bigelephant on Nov 10, 2019 13:47:32 GMT -5
After watching the first two games, I think Jagan Mosely needs to start with Akinjo, Pickett , Josh and Yurt. Jagan is the most unselfish of our guards and is always looking for the assist. So far, Jagan's play has been excellent. I also like Galen Alexander great stroke from 3.I have to agree that Mac looks more as a playmaker when he has the ball on his hands, therefore he should start with the second unit. This is my two cents. Go HOYAS. I don't think that's going to happen. Mac had a couple of mediocre/fair games. Just be patient
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Post by nbhoya on Nov 10, 2019 13:57:18 GMT -5
I think people are forgetting the special offensive talent Mac is when he is on. He’s not second string.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Nov 10, 2019 14:14:04 GMT -5
In general, I wouldn’t go with any recommendation that starts with “after having watched two games.” Jagan has played well and I’m thrilled. Let’s just start by rewarding him some minutes.
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Post by GUJook97 on Nov 10, 2019 14:19:38 GMT -5
I just finished watching the second half off my DVR, and a few game thoughts: 1. This is going to be contrarian, but I really do not think our team has nearly the depth everyone thinks we have. The top 7-8 guys we have are clearly better than the remainder. In my mind, in any tough game, some combination of Akinjo, McClung, Mosely, Pickett, LeBlanc, and Yurtseven need to play a ton of minutes, with Allen and Alexander getting a good bit too. Beyond that, I am not so sure. I know that it was likely because we played Central Arkansas and Yurtseven getting fouls, but if we play a lot of games where Yurtseven plays 19 minutes, and LeBlanc 17, we are going to be playing suboptimally. I am assuming this is because Ewing wanted to get other guys minutes, but I'll be looking for both of them to get a lot more time. 2. Our defense is still pretty bad. The communication and cohesiveness is just not there. I know it was the en vogue HoyaTalk take to blame Govan for this last year, but it wasn't the case then and it's certainly not the case now. Central Arkansas scored 0.95 points per possession. The 232nd best offense. That's a problem. Which is why LeBlanc needs to play more; he elevates the defensive game a lot. 3. Mosely looked really good again, and Pickett had a pretty nice game too. 4. Yurtseven looked pretty good too, but had 4 turnovers, but otherwise had a nice game. He needs to be a bit more careful with the ball but seems to have a really nice touch around the basket, and I think he's clearly - by far - our best option at the 5 and in tougher games like Penn State, should play as much as he can. (This is a good example of not having depth; we literally have depth in that we can throw bodies on the floor in Wahab, Wilson, Ighoefe, but it's not very useful when Yurtseven is many degrees better than all of them.) 5. Central Arkansas (265 coming into today, 257 now) proves why Georgetown should never play the 300+ level opponents. Central Arkansas is still a pretty beatable bad team, but they provide more of a challenge than the 300+ level teams that Georgetown could beat with their eyes closed. And these teams aren't so bad that they wreck our strength of schedule and metrics. Speaking for myself, there is a difference between saying it's good to see Ewing play 10 guys vs we have a lot of depth. I'm in camp #1. I am okay playing a deeper bench in these games even if it means we give up 75 points and dont win by 20. If you cant play these guys now and see what you have, then you will never get a chance.
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Post by jwp91 on Nov 10, 2019 14:24:26 GMT -5
I think people are forgetting the special offensive talent Mac is when he is on. He’s not second string. I like Mac. i like him starting. He might be the scoring punch the 2nd 5 needs. We could probably let him handle the ball then too which could increase his effectiveness. It is worth considering.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 10, 2019 15:48:56 GMT -5
I'm normally a very optimistic person, but defense is a huge issue right now. Need to try something, anything different. The hedging and rotating is not working. We're alternating from over helping leaving the 3pters wide open to rotating too slowly, leaving the rim wide open. We need to try some zone or something anything else.
The only positive from this game was the offense looking decent despite poor play from akinjo and Mac. Mosley and Pickett really stepping up. But we'll need all hands on deck now that we start playing real teams.
Unless we step up defensively I can't see us hanging with a half decent team.
I also do not think our substitution patterns are very good right now. Too many whole line changes.
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Post by bicentennial on Nov 10, 2019 17:00:18 GMT -5
I was unable to see the second game. I get the early angst! Would love to see both games as blow outs with 10+ players getting minutes. That said, this game our defense let an opposing team score more than 75 points and MacClung and Akinjo only scored 11 points and despite that we won. Last season this game would have been a loss. To have other players scoring consistently and winning on a night that MacClung and Akinjo were both ice cold is a major positive! I am looking forward to seeing all of how this season goes!
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 10, 2019 17:36:50 GMT -5
The Team A / Team B thing is fine for creampuffs, but there's a reason why no one runs a team this way anymore. The 80s are gone; people need to get over it.
James and Mac should never both be out of the game at the same time. Mac should run the offense of the second team, but that doesn't mean he doesn't start or finish. It just means you pull one out early so there's always a one on one player on the court at all times.
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Post by MCIGuy on Nov 10, 2019 18:10:20 GMT -5
This whole thing about Mac coming off the bench and Jagan starting is a carry-over conversation from the tail end of last season. And while I'm more confident of Jagan from an offensive standpoint than I have been before, Mac gives the team a needed second guard on the court who can get to any point he wants on the floor and either get off a shot or create one for a teammate. Having two guys like that in your starting lineup is a bonus and helped this team get big wins against better competition last season. No need to push any panic buttons and ask for such a change at this stage.
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